Hackers Release Information on Westboro Baptist Church Members After CT Threat

[Chris]

When you look at it from a black and white perspective, if I gave you my address in a public arena (say, this forum) that does not give you the right NOR does it encourage you to go to my place of residence and use force.

I condone eliminating groups such as WBC. I'm not advocating violence, but again, I'm done tolerating stupidity.

If the WBC was at one of your family members' funerals, you'd probably be singing a different tune.

Goodness, I know for a fact you are not stupid. Stop trying to prove me wrong. If the WBC was at my family member's funeral, I would be a biased party with emotional investment thus not making my opinion very objective, am I correct?

Stop blinding yourself with hate and look at this like any rational, logical person would. Hackers made this information public for a reason. Tell me right now what they are hoping to happen by posting that information. Probably the exact same thing that the people in this thread going, "Hell yeah! Glad they did this!" are hoping to happen. Lots of smart people on these forums, you can put two and two together.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Goodness, I know for a fact you are not stupid. Stop trying to prove me wrong. If the WBC was at my family member's funeral, I would be a biased party with emotional investment thus not making my opinion very objective, am I correct?

Stop blinding yourself with hate and look at this like any rational, logical person would. Hackers made this information public for a reason. Tell me right now what they are hoping to happen by posting that information. Probably the exact same thing that the people in this thread going, "Hell yeah! Glad they did this!" are hoping to happen. Lots of smart people on these forums, you can put two and two together.

They are hoping to destroy the WBC, in their own words. Personally, I don't take that as literally killing them.

Whomever goes over to one of those dudes house and kills them, well, they deserve to be tried for murder. That's THEIR crime.

I'm not blinding myself with hate. But I'd LOVE to blind the WBC with fear.....the same with any violent criminal. I can't imagine what it would feel like if I knew my ever move was being watched, followed, and/or even harassed by novel citizens looking to STOMP OUT my ignorance. I'd be very afraid. YET, at the moment, we allow these FUCKING MORONS to keep doin' their thing.

 

[Chris]

They are hoping to destroy the WBC, in their own words. Personally, I don't take that as literally killing them.

Whomever goes over to one of those dudes house and kills them, well, they deserve to be tried for murder. That's THEIR crime.

I'm not blinding myself with hate. But I'd LOVE to blind the WBC with fear.....the same with any violent criminal. I can't imagine what it would feel like if I knew I was being watched, followed, and/or even harassed by novel citizens looking to STOMP OUT my ignorance. Id' be very afraid. YET, at the moment, we allow these FUCKING MORONS to keep doin' their thing.

Is the WBC violent? Who have they physically harmed? If they are a terrorist group that is harming people, they need to all be arrested and tried immediately. But I haven't heard such stories, likely because as many astute individuals have pointed out in this thread, WBC is a scam and simply out for attention. Would be surprised if most of them believed what they spew.

So we're hoping that these people will live in FEAR of violence being committed against them, not actually for violence to be committed against them? Am I understanding your opinion clearly?

 

[Tlyons]

Just looking at this thread makes me want less guns in the world.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Is the WBC violent? Who have they physically harmed? If they are a terrorist group that is harming people, they need to all be arrested and tried immediately. But I haven't heard such stories, likely because as many astute individuals have pointed out in this thread, WBC is a scam and simply out for attention. Would be surprised if most of them believed what they spew.

So we're hoping that these people will live in FEAR of violence being committed against them, not actually for violence to be committed against them? Am I understanding your opinion clearly?

Sure, why not? They're scum.

Agreed...they are a scam. But I don't want to see them ANYWHERE near a damn funeral. Period. This should not be tolerated. Period.

Do you think I should FEAR stealing something from my fellow man? Do you think I should FEAR trying to murder someone? Do you think I should FEAR doing any kind of harm to people, maliciously, whether that be in the physical or mental form, provided they do not harm me first? I do........

It's time that criminals fear more....and ordinary citizens fear less.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

They are hoping to destroy the WBC, in their own words. Personally, I don't take that as literally killing them.

Whomever goes over to one of those dudes house and kills them, well, they deserve to be tried for murder. That's THEIR crime.

I'm not blinding myself with hate. But I'd LOVE to blind the WBC with fear.....the same with any violent criminal. I can't imagine what it would feel like if I knew my ever move was being watched, followed, and/or even harassed by novel citizens looking to STOMP OUT my ignorance. I'd be very afraid. YET, at the moment, we allow these FUCKING MORONS to keep doin' their thing.

You come off as a bit of a hypocrite. You trumpet the right to bare arms and then argue to deny a group the freedom to assemble. You also praise hackers for breaking the law and publishing their personal information.

I mean, I hate the WBC as much as the next guy, just thought I'd point out that you seem to defend the law/constitution when it suits your ideals but not when it doesn't.

For the record, I'm not for banning guns either. This is just something that bothered me.

 

[Otsego Mar]

You come off as a bit of a hypocrite. You trumpet the right to bare arms and then argue to deny a group the freedom to assemble. You also praise hackers for breaking the law and publishing their personal information.

I mean, I hate the WBC as much as the next guy, just thought I'd point out that you seem to defend the law/constitution when it suits your ideals but not when it doesn't.

For the record, I'm not for banning guns either. This is just something that bothered me.

I'd like to think I'm defending the law/constitution of the general public. Look anybody in the eye and say the WBC deserves to assemble at funerals. I fucking dare you. I will NEVER defend any law allowing that. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT RIGHT. IT SHOULD NOT BE A RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE AT A PERSONAL FUNERAL. PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO ADVOCATE THAT. I fucking dare you.

If you haven't already noticed, nothing offends me, and I am never one to be politically correct.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

I'd like to think I'm defending the law/constitution of the general public. Look anybody in the eye and say the WBC deserves to assemble at funerals. I fucking dare you. I will NEVER defend any law allowing that. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT RIGHT. IT SHOULD NOT BE A RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE AT A FUNERAL. PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO ADVOCATE THAT. I fucking dare you.

If you haven't already noticed, nothing offends me, and I am never one to be politically correct.

Again, I don't like them at all either. I just don't see how you can advocate one constitutional right while tossing aside another. It's hypocritical. There are aspects of bearing arms I wish weren't there. There's always a downside to freedom. With the second amendment you have gun violence. With the freedom to assemble you have douchebag bigots.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Again, I don't like them at all either. I just don't see how you can advocate one constitutional right while tossing aside another. It's hypocritical. There are aspects of bearing arms I wish weren't there. There's always a downside to freedom. With the second amendment you have gun violence. With the freedom to assemble you have douchebag bigots.

Absolutely not! The basis of my argument is that maybe it shouldn't be a constitutional right to PROTEST A FUNERAL.

Which of these 2 statements makes more sense?....I should have the right to bare arms to protect myself or I should have the right to protest a funeral. This, my friend, has more to do with common sense than anything else.

 

[KI4MVP]

Is the WBC violent? Who have they physically harmed? If they are a terrorist group that is harming people, they need to all be arrested and tried immediately. But I haven't heard such stories, likely because as many astute individuals have pointed out in this thread, WBC is a scam and simply out for attention. Would be surprised if most of them believed what they spew.

So we're hoping that these people will live in FEAR of violence being committed against them, not actually for violence to be committed against them? Am I understanding your opinion clearly?

they have emotionally harmed countless people, and have done so at a time when they are most vulnerable to emotional harm.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

Absolutely not! The basis of my argument is that maybe it shouldn't be a constitutional right to PROTEST A FUNERAL.

Which of these 2 statements makes more sense?....I should have the right to bare arms to protect myself or I should have the right to protest a funeral. This, my friend, is called common sense.

It's the same argument you make for gun control. If you start making a list of places where you can't assemble, where does it stop? Same with banning assault rifles. Where does it stop?

Again, I actually agree with your viewpoint for the most part (you're far more pro gun than I am but that doesn't matter). I just find it interesting that you don't seem to recognize you'd be trampling on someone else's constitutional rights when you disagree with their ideals.

 

[Otsego Mar]

It's the same argument you make for gun control. If you start making a list of places where you can't assemble, where does it stop? Same with banning assault rifles. Where does it stop?

Again, I actually agree with your viewpoint for the most part (you're far more pro gun than I am but that doesn't matter). I just find it interesting that you don't seem to recognize you'd be trampling on someone else's constitutional rights when you disagree with their ideals.

I recognize IT.....but I'm of the opinion that IT should no longer be a constitutional right. I'm fully advocating changing that. Do you REALLY want someone to be able to protest your next family member's death? Doc...can you fucking imagine that?? Do you want people to be able to do that to you and your family???????

 

[KI4MVP]

Again, I don't like them at all either. I just don't see how you can advocate one constitutional right while tossing aside another. It's hypocritical. There are aspects of bearing arms I wish weren't there. There's always a downside to freedom. With the second amendment you have gun violence. With the freedom to assemble you have douchebag bigots.

the people at the funeral have rights too.

 

[Chris]

they have emotionally harmed countless people, and have done so at a time when they are most vulnerable to emotional harm.

Do we need to be educated on what the "Constitution" and "Freedom of speech" are? The WBC is far from the only non-violent bigot group that could be said to have caused "emotional harm" but that just doesn't fly. Aren't these idiots actually prohibited from being AT the funeral due to privacy laws? They do it a street corner away, or whatnot, right? Just deal with it. Like he said, freedom has its downsides but if being free means I have to see the occasional ignorant bigotry spewing jackass, I'll take my freedoms and run with them.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

the people at the funeral have rights too.

And people have a right to not get shot. All I'm saying is it's hypocritical to say it's someone's constitutional right to bear arms and then advocate removing the freedom to assemble. By no means do I support the actions of the WBC. I'd take it as a huge compliment if they protested my funeral, means I did something right with my life.