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[Otsego Mar]

they have emotionally harmed countless people, and have done so at a time when they are most vulnerable to emotional harm.

Oh, and they do so as a means to PROFIT, by LYING. But they have rights......right. Do criminals have rights? Yea...but we take them away..as we should. The WBC are criminals. Now, what are we going to do about it? That's the question.

 

[Otsego Mar]

And people have a right to not get shot. All I'm saying is it's hypocritical to say it's someone's constitutional right to bear arms and then advocate removing the freedom to assemble. By no means do I support the actions of the WBC. I'd take it as a huge compliment if they protested my funeral, means I did something right with my life.

Why, yes, they certainly do. But this statement serves no purpose in your argument.

What you are saying, unfortunately, doesn't make sense. We're on the same team, bruh.

I'm advocating the freedom to assemble but NO WHEN YOU ABUSE IT. Is this that hard to comprehend?

And you'd take it as a huge compliment? Well, good for you. I wouldn't. And I'd make sure FROM MY GRAVE that it didn't happen.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Oh, and they do so as a means to PROFIT, by LYING. But they have rights......right. Do criminals have rights? Yea...but we take them away..as we should. The WBC are criminals. Now, what are we doing to do about it? That's the question.

These people may be pieces of shit, but I fail to see what laws they've broken. How exactly are they criminals?

 

[Chris]

Arrest them all?

Along with all the KKK?

And pretty much everyone else with a message of hate...or just prejudice/racism...bigotry .. maybe eventually we'll get to arresting people who disagree with the government, too.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

Why, yes, they certainly do. But this statement serves no purpose in your argument.

What you are saying, unfortunately, doesn't make sense. We're on the same team, bruh.

I'm advocating the freedom to assemble WHEN YOU ABUSE IT. Is this that hard to comprehend?

What you're talking about it putting restrictions on the freedom to assemble, the exact same thing you argue so ardently against when discussing gun control. You shouldn't be able to use "it's my constitutional right to bear arms" as an argument if you're so willing to change the constitution to remove other freedoms that you don't agree with.

That's my point.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Arrest them all?

Along with all the KKK?

And pretty much everyone else with a message of hate...or just prejudice/racism...bigotry .. maybe eventually we'll get to arresting people who disagree with the government, too.

If the KKK wants to assemble and act like jackasses on their own time...I don't give a shit.

Again, you do not protest funerals. From a societal standpoint, that's where you draw the line. You don't advance as a society if you can't protect yourself as a people by simple measures.

The idea of allowing the protesting of a funeral is simply ludicrous, flawed, detrimental, destructive behavior.

 

[Tlyons]

Oh, and they do so as a means to PROFIT, by LYING. But they have rights......right. Do criminals have rights? Yea...but we take them away..as we should. The CEOs are criminals. Now, what are we going to do about it? That's the question.

 

[Otsego Mar]

What you're talking about it putting restrictions on the freedom to assemble, the exact same thing you argue so ardently against when discussing gun control. You shouldn't be able to use "it's my constitutional right to bear arms" as an argument if you're so willing to change the constitution to remove other freedoms that you don't agree with.

That's my point.

No, it's not the exact same thing. THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS on gun control. Gun control is restriction. Allowing the WBC to assemble AT a funeral is simply counterproductive....that involves NO restriction. It serves no purpose in a progressive society. Again....it is counterproductive.

 

[Jack Brickman]

If the KKK wants to assemble and act like jackasses on their own time...I don't give a shit.

Again, you do not protest funerals. From a societal standpoint, that's where you draw the line. You don't advance as a society if you can't protect yourself as a people by simple measures.

The idea of allowing the protesting of a funeral is simply ludicrous, flawed, detrimental, destructive behavior.

That may be, and it probably should be illegal. However, it's currently not illegal, and until it is, these people may be douchebag bigots, but they're not breaking any laws and, thus, not criminals.

 

[Otsego Mar]

That may be, and it probably should be illegal. However, it's currently not illegal, and until it is, these people may be douchebag bigots, but they're not breaking any laws and, thus, not criminals.

Well, that's where we just differ in our ideology. Do you see a problem with it being legal? It appears to me that it isn't exactly priority #1 on Jack Brickman's list (it's not on mine either).....but again, I'd never have that. We (you, me, we, as a people) should never allow (we should all cringe when this thought crosses our mind) the protesting of funerals.

Someone has to stand up. For real.

I guess this has more to do with the fight against stupidity than it does anything....really. That's what this all boils down to. And how people value "rights". Some rights are just more valuable than others. That's a fact, Jack

 

[Chris]

That may be, and it probably should be illegal. However, it's currently not illegal, and until it is, these people may be douchebag bigots, but they're not breaking any laws and, thus, not criminals.

Honestly, I already said this but I thought it WAS illegal under privacy laws ... I'd be shocked if the law really allowed them to be present at the actual funeral.

I was under the assumption their demonstrations were always just in close proximity to the funeral, across the street or down the road and whatnot. Obviously they should not be allowed to protest inside the actual ceremony .... thats absurd.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Honestly, I already said this but I thought it WAS illegal under privacy laws ... I'd be shocked if the law really allowed them to be present at the actual funeral.

I was under the assumption their demonstrations were always just in close proximity to the funeral, across the street or down the road and whatnot. Obviously they should not be allowed to protest inside the actual ceremony .... thats absurd.

Right. But my point (as was yours, I believe) was they haven't actually broken any laws. If they do, they should be arrested appropriately. However, we just can't pick and choose where to enforce laws. If we don't want these assholes protesting near funerals, we need to create a law that prevents it, not pretend they're guilty of a crime that doesn't yet exist.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Right. But my point (as was yours, I believe) was they haven't actually broken any laws. If they do, they should be arrested appropriately. However, we just can't pick and choose where to enforce laws. If we don't want these assholes protesting near funerals, we need to create a law that prevents it, not pretend they're guilty of a crime that doesn't yet exist.

And why wasn't that law created back in say 1886????

Somewhere along the lines....somebody decided it was OK to protest a funeral....and others decided it was OK to protest funerals or they weren't going to do anything about it. THAT'S the definition of a pussy, b00bie. Pay attention.

 

[Chris]

Right. But my point (as was yours, I believe) was they haven't actually broken any laws. If they do, they should be arrested appropriately. However, we just can't pick and choose where to enforce laws. If we don't want these assholes protesting near funerals, we need to create a law that prevents it, not pretend they're guilty of a crime that doesn't yet exist.

Correct ... but are we sure there is NOT a law?

Thus rendering BigMar Lion's ranting moot? Because if there is a law saying, and these protesters are just doing it down the street, tough luck. You gotta just deal with it.

 

[Jack Brickman]

And why wasn't that law created back in say 1886????

I have no idea. I'm not a politician. Again, if you don't want them protesting outside of funerals (and really, no one does), then there needs to be a law restricting it. Until then, these people are free to be all the douchebag they can be. Perhaps you should write your congressional representatives if you want to see the laws updated.

I honestly don't even get why you're arguing here. No one here is saying that it's necessarily right that these people are protesting funerals, and I'm sure everyone here agrees it's horrible and in bad taste, but it's not illegal and these people, however dickish they may be, are not criminals.