Harrison Barnes WILL MAKE 6 TEAMS PAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Adam]

I think W&G said it best: Sean Elliot. Great player when hes your third option, but not a go-to guy who creates for others

 

[The Oi]

If you're sincere in this post, and not sarcastic, you deserve some kudos for admitting you were wrong. I can respect that. As a Harrison Barnes fan since his Jr year in HS, and someone that said he'd have an NBA game similar to Paul Pierce (and got ripped repeatedly for that view), I appreciate what you wrote.

He's done nothing to suggest he'll have a game similar to Paul Pierce.

He has looked good so far, better than I expected. But he's done next to nothing that Paul Pierce did at that age.

 

[randymoss1881]

Maybe averaging 25 a game is premature, but I wouldn't rule it out with his ability to score. He's got a whole career ahead of him, so obviously I'd consider that a bold statement for him to do something not many players have done.

Either way, though, averaging 20+ a game is something I see him doing.

If you think barnes has that potential what do you think about waiters?? Cause waiters has a better first step and gets to the basket easier and he is good to great in the all important pick and roll offense. Waiters is shooting the 3 at 40% compared to Barnes 36% desipte Barnes being a spot up shooter who is being set up by thompon and curry

 

[narbar32]

If you're sincere in this post, and not sarcastic, you deserve some kudos for admitting you were wrong. I can respect that. As a Harrison Barnes fan since his Jr year in HS, and someone that said he'd have an NBA game similar to Paul Pierce (and got ripped repeatedly for that view), I appreciate what you wrote.

Well I appreciate it, but I have to admit that I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek. But only somewhat!

From the admittedly limited amount of time I've had to watch him play in the NBA so far, he still doesn't look like a guy who can take defenders off the dribble with a ton of success. And I've seen some of the same "roboticism" that worried me when he played at UNC. However...

I'm a total child when it comes to watching sports. I put waaaay too much stock into nasty dunks. Sure, I appreciate watching fundamentally sound basketball, but it's plays like that dunk that get my pee-pee to stand up and take notice. Regardless of his athletic testing results, I didn't think he had it like that. And it's partially been the relative dearth of guys who can do anything like that on the Cavs in the past decade (aside from Lebron) that has often had me frustrated. I enjoy entertainment. Because he has that capability -- which I wrongly doubted -- I have to eat my words.

But he's still not nearly as advanced offensively and just plain skilled as Pierce was at his age.

 

[adam81king]

Just so we're clear, this would be Harrison Barnes' junior year of college...the last season Paul Pierce spent at Kansas. Keep that in mind.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Barnes is a perfect fit in Golden State. He can play in the post and play off of Curry on an up-and-down team that likes to space the floor.

He'll carve out a nice career there, IMO. Still don't think his individual impact on a game will ever be anywhere near as much as Waiters' though. Happy with Dion---can't wait until he learns how to finish like an NBA guard.

 

[Rich]

I can't get a read on him yet. He'll have a nice game here and there, but then he'll have these non-impactful games where he gets his team 4 points or 7 points. He's been more effecient than Dion, obviously, but I'd have to say Dion has had more games in which he's made an impact than Barnes has so far, and by a wide margin.

 

[Zen]

Yeah because Davis, Beal, Waiters, MKG and Lillard have played so poorly to start the year...

I've watched 4 Washington games, Beal looks terrible. Easily the worst of the group you listed.

 

[Futuredome]

Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

I always remembered Waiters as the guy who was shutdown by Aaron Craft in the NCAA's last year. I was pissed that Barnes wasn't the pick.

 

[Kizzle]

Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

I always remembered Waiters as the guy who was shutdown by Aaron Craft in the NCAA's last year. I was pissed that Barnes wasn't the pick.

lol I wanted Barnes too.......

But its looking like either picks wouldve worked out for us, Barnes is looking really really solid in GS

 

[Pioneer10]

Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

I always remembered Waiters as the guy who was shutdown by Aaron Craft in the NCAA's last year. I was pissed that Barnes wasn't the pick.

I don't hold this again Dion too much, Craft is an amazing defender. Frankly one of the best I've seen at the college level. If there was any inkling that he would be able to hit an NBA 3 consistently he would have a career in the NBA (too bad I don't think he'll be able to do it)

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

I always remembered Waiters as the guy who was shutdown by Aaron Craft in the NCAA's last year. I was pissed that Barnes wasn't the pick.

Craft pretty much shuts down everyone, with the exception of Knight hitting that game winner in the tourney, which was a tough shot. The only player drafted after Dion that I could see an argument for us taking instead is Drummond, and it's no sure thing that he'll develop.

 

[The Oi]

Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

lol I wanted Barnes too.......

But its looking like either picks wouldve worked out for us, Barnes is looking really really solid in GS

Sarcasm? Barnes has been putrid. God, I hated that people liked him so much. It was the opposite of the Waiters scenario. The people that disliked Waiters, disliked him on paper because they never watched him and had no feel for his game. The people that loved Barnes liked him because of all the moronic Pierce comparisons they read about him and because somebody Barnes' camp was paying, compared him to Kobe coming out of HS.

You couldn't possibly watch 5-6 of those guys games and say anything other than that Barnes was a future bust and Waiters is going to be a stud.

Jesus, I still get fired up about Barnes. What an awful player he is.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

Sarcasm? Barnes has been putrid. God, I hated that people liked him so much. It was the opposite of the Waiters scenario. The people that disliked Waiters, disliked him on paper because they never watched him and had no feel for his game. The people that loved Barnes liked him because of all the moronic Pierce comparisons they read about him and because somebody Barnes' camp was paying, compared him to Kobe coming out of HS.

You couldn't possibly watch 5-6 of those guys games and say anything other than that Barnes was a future bust and Waiters is going to be a stud.

Jesus, I still get fired up about Barnes. What an awful player he is.

I don't think Barnes is awful, but I sure as hell wanted no part of him with the fourth pick. Had we drafted Waiters and then traded up to draft Barnes, though, I would have been totally okay with it. Barnes is who he is: a reasonably athletic small forward who can knock down open jumpers and play solid defense. Basically, he would have fit in very well with two guards like Waiters and Irving who can draw coverage and get small forwards open threes.

But Barnes as the fourth pick to be second banana to Kyrie? No thanks. Barnes in my mind has a ceiling as a third banana, and that's his ceiling, mind you, not his floor. I don't see him as a bust, though. For the seventh pick and as the fourth option (or even fifth if Bogut ever gets healthy) on a playoff team, I think he's performing adequately.

Honestly, though, I wish we had gotten the third pick so Grant could have trolled fans by taking Waiters over Beal. That would have been masterful.

 

[The Oi]

Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

I agree with most of that, except for that he's performing adequately. He's awful. AWFUL. He's getting 20-25mpg and doing nothing while he's out there. He sucks. Can't wait til he's a 10-12mpg end of bench guy.