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I wish it would just happen already, everyone and their mother knows it's coming. Like I said before Haslam should have just got out in front of this thing and admitted what was going on. The Feds had everything they needed when they raided Headquarters. As mentioned in other stories, you don't see the Feds until they have everything they want and they want to be seen. At that point they ask questions from the ground level to see who's complying, who's full of shit, and how many obstruction of justice charges they can slap on.

This "rebate scam" was not formulated by Joe and Sally making 60-80k per year. Ripping off companies for millions does NOTHING for Joe and Sally 9-5. This was ordered and carried out from the top down. Haslam and those up top were the ones that stood to benefit from ripping these people off for millions of dollars. Sadly I think the Browns could have been used to cover up some of the "increased income" Haslam was seeing due to this scandal. Granted I'm sure he definitely wanted to own an NFL team as they make money hand over fist, but I think we were definitely an integral part of his rebate scam. I just wish it was over already because I'm about 90% sure the next owner is going to clean house and want "his guys" and suddenly you've just wasted the last 5 years of building and another 3-5 years re-building over what they're likely to tear down. It never ends...
 
I wish it would just happen already, everyone and their mother knows it's coming. Like I said before Haslam should have just got out in front of this thing and admitted what was going on. The Feds had everything they needed when they raided Headquarters. As mentioned in other stories, you don't see the Feds until they have everything they want and they want to be seen. At that point they ask questions from the ground level to see who's complying, who's full of shit, and how many obstruction of justice charges they can slap on.

This "rebate scam" was not formulated by Joe and Sally making 60-80k per year. Ripping off companies for millions does NOTHING for Joe and Sally 9-5. This was ordered and carried out from the top down. Haslam and those up top were the ones that stood to benefit from ripping these people off for millions of dollars. Sadly I think the Browns could have been used to cover up some of the "increased income" Haslam was seeing due to this scandal. Granted I'm sure he definitely wanted to own an NFL team as they make money hand over fist, but I think we were definitely an integral part of his rebate scam. I just wish it was over already because I'm about 90% sure the next owner is going to clean house and want "his guys" and suddenly you've just wasted the last 5 years of building and another 3-5 years re-building over what they're likely to tear down. It never ends...

I'm honestly fucking done if that happens. What a nightmare.
 
I'm honestly fucking done if that happens. What a nightmare.

Spoiler alert: we rebuild in 5 years no matter who is owning the team.
 
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How awful does blowing this team up sound right now? Cornerstones like Haden wouldn't even be around by the time you're ready to compete again. Joe Thomas would be like 40.
 
How awful does blowing this team up sound right now? Cornerstones like Haden wouldn't even be around by the time you're ready to compete again. Joe Thomas would be like 40.

This season is incredibly important. If the team makes a jump, any impending ownership group would probably just leave the current structure as is and just add.

But if the team doesn't take a step forward, a potential ownership change could spell disaster...whether or not we think the current group is on the right path.
 
How awful does blowing this team up sound right now? Cornerstones like Haden wouldn't even be around by the time you're ready to compete again. Joe Thomas would be like 40.

We've been rebuilding for 50 years. What is the realistic probability that we see a championship at any point in our life?

We do this to ourselves. Every year. And we will the year after that, and all the ones after that.
 
We've been rebuilding for 50 years. What is the realistic probability that we see a championship at any point in our life?

We do this to ourselves. Every year. And we will the year after that, and all the ones after that.

That is some depressing shit.
 
I hate the whoa is Cleveland attitude. All the years I have been posting here, you never hear me bring it up, or say oh no, here we go again.

But this is different, this has the potential to be devastating even to me.

Plain and simple: This really fucking sucks and I cant see any good outcome from this utter bullshit.
 
I'm not all that concerned for a couple reasons:

1.) Browns are and have been terrible, and until they can actually produce on the field, I don't feel like anyone or any scheme is untouchable. Basically, there is nothing worthy of lamenting if it gets blown up again.

2.) They have been so bad for so long, it's hard to even get upset about rebuilding again.

3.) Obviously it would be better to know all this before Haslam was approved as owner, but I think it's at least better than knowing a couple years down the road. The cement hasn't even dried here for the new regime, so it's probably better it happens right away.

4.) If he is indicted and convicted, I'm just happy that Browns fans won't have to deal with Haslam.


As for the idea that the new ownership may leave Banner in place if they do well this season, I strongly disagree - a power-hungry guy like Banner is going to be gone very quickly if a new owner gets here. Have to put your own people place, and cannot tolerate someone like him leading the organization if he's not your own.
 
I hate the whoa is Cleveland attitude. All the years I have been posting here, you never hear me bring it up, or say oh no, here we go again.

But this is different, this has the potential to be devastating even to me.

Plain and simple: This really fucking sucks and I cant see any good outcome from this utter bullshit.

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(It's woe, btw)
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>BREAKING: Jimmy Haslam agrees to settle class action lawsuits with truckers /via <a href="https://twitter.com/InvestigatorRon">@InvestigatorRon</a> <a href="http://t.co/ABAnEfSPwR">http://t.co/ABAnEfSPwR</a></p>&mdash; WEWS Sports (@WEWSsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/WEWSsports/statuses/357146819760889858">July 16, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>BREAKING: Jimmy Haslam agrees to settle class action lawsuits with truckers /via <a href="https://twitter.com/InvestigatorRon">@InvestigatorRon</a> <a href="http://t.co/ABAnEfSPwR">http://t.co/ABAnEfSPwR</a></p>— WEWS Sports (@WEWSsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/WEWSsports/statuses/357146819760889858">July 16, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Just saw this. Doesn't mean Jimmy is out of the woods yet, but this sure as hell helps. Down with 'woe is me'!
 
As if James was ever in any trouble. The guy can buy his way out of murder! Love this guy. :thumbup:
 

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