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How Will Attendance Be This Season

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I stand Corrected. As of today its 4.2% playoffs. 5.0 percent to win lottery. Which is the first time all season that has occurred. The probabilities report was develped by Justin Kubatko.

Also I didnt state that the Cavs would make the playoffs. Merely that they for the most part of the season had a better chance of making them than winning the lottery aka top 5 pick

That's not what winning the lottery means. The Cavs are not far at all from the bottom five record wise in the NBA.
 
I must be going to the wrong games then. I have yet to be at a game where I thought it was 80% full, which is what 16k is (maybe the kings game when they gave away a ton of tickets) Heck, club level is rarely more than 50% full. Upper deck is almost always less than 30% full.

There are literaly entire sections of the upper deck that are empty at every game.

you go to weekend games or weekday games?
 
We'll just have to agree to disagree, ACF. Most games I've been to this season (8 thus far) have been 80%+ full, in my estimation. I think it's been evenly split between weeknight and weekend games too, fwiw.

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I must be going to the wrong games then. I have yet to be at a game where I thought it was 80% full, which is what 16k is (maybe the kings game when they gave away a ton of tickets) Heck, club level is rarely more than 50% full. Upper deck is almost always less than 30% full.

There are literaly entire sections of the upper deck that are empty at every game.

This what I've heard. Have had a few friends tell me they just buy upper deck $10 tickets and move down to club because there are always open seats.

I'll be at the Q on Sunday for the Rockets game. I'll report back with what I see :chuckles:
 
I have been to most of the home games and there is no way we are averaging 16k per game...and there is very little inventory on flash seats, which suggest there are not many sold tickets not showing up. Have no idea how they come up with the numbers.

Tickets sold doesn't = fans at the game.. And just because there's very little inventory on flash seats, doesn't mean those tickets weren't sold somehow..
 
I was at the bulls game and it looked about 80% full to me. Maybe I'm just terrible at estimating. I didn't see large sections of empty seats.


There were a lot of bulls fans though.
 
Remember, the Q is one of the larger arena's in the NBA. 16,100 is 78% full which is tickets sold not actually how many people are there. The upper deck is only 40% of the seats (about 8,000) and the lower bowl/clubs is 60% (about 12,000). So if the upper deck looks only 50% full (4,000) and the lower bowl is 90% full (10,800) that's about 16,000 after you include the people that didn't show up.
 
I was at the bulls game and it looked about 80% full to me. Maybe I'm just terrible at estimating. I didn't see large sections of empty seats.


There were a lot of bulls fans though.

Stated attendance, which always tends to overestimate, was 17871 (i.e. about 87% capacity) in the first game, and the 2nd was, on paper, a sellout.

Being a Bulls fan in NE Ohio is almost as bad as being a Heat fan, IMHO. In particular, nothing screams "Stockholm syndrome" more than being a Michael Jordan fan in NE Ohio.
 
That is not the timeline presented when people are advocating trading Anderson Varejao.

Cavs have a better odds of making the playoffs than winning a top 5 pick. Cavs should be improved next year as well. Good Quality draft picks will certainly bolster the teams chances long term but the Cavs will have other options and pieces in place to make their own options . Not just wants provided to them by their win and loss record.

Ok. Everyone knows that I fucking drive the Tank Bus and the Trade Varejao Wiener Mobile on these forums, and what Czvosec just described is exactly what I feel as well. High lotto this year, low lotto next year, playoffs. That's the tankers' plan. Show me these posts that you're talking about that have people advocating a 5-year timeline?

And your last two sentences don't make sense. Please reword them.
 
I stand Corrected. As of today its 4.2% playoffs. 5.0 percent to win lottery. Which is the first time all season that has occurred. The probabilities report was develped by Justin Kubatko.

Also I didnt state that the Cavs would make the playoffs. Merely that they for the most part of the season had a better chance of making them than winning the lottery aka top 5 pick

You made absolutely no mention of that. Also, those statistics are not authoritative or reliable by any means because they are fallible. Using subjective evidence in deductive reasoning does not work.
 
You made absolutely no mention of that. Also, those statistics are not authoritative or reliable by any means because they are fallible. Using subjective evidence in deductive reasoning does not work.

Cavs were three games out from the 8th seed most of the season so far. Lottery statistics is a straight mathemtical equation. the whole process is about percentages. You have 3 teams with less than 9 wins and another 4 teams with worse records and thats after the cavs hit a 6 game slide. Their worst of the season.
If not for the Knicks recent resurgence and the Celtics getting off to such a great start after the break the Cavs along with the bucks would be right in the mix.

Cavs came out of the all star break one game out of the 8th seed and 4 games out of the 11th.

I am not sure why I would need to explain this.
 
Remember, the Q is one of the larger arena's in the NBA. 16,100 is 78% full which is tickets sold not actually how many people are there. The upper deck is only 40% of the seats (about 8,000) and the lower bowl/clubs is 60% (about 12,000). So if the upper deck looks only 50% full (4,000) and the lower bowl is 90% full (10,800) that's about 16,000 after you include the people that didn't show up.

It is not that big a deal.

But here are some pics from the Celtics game:
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I know the sales verse who shows are up are different...but why would people buy tickets and not show up and at least not try and sell them on flash seats??

Upper deck was maybe 25% full. Lower bowl might have been about 80%, but club level was probably around 50%.
 
Actual attendance and announced attendance are two very different figures. Actual this season is slightly over 13,200 per game, announced is pushing 17k, around 16,500 I believe. Not exactly sure how they make these figures up, though.
 
It looks like the Cavs will finish at 19/20th in attendance this season. Before tonights last game they are averaging 15,859. Not too bad for being one of the worst teams in the league.
 
Also considering we were #2 at 100% (Chicago had over 100% somehow) last season. Can only expect fans to show up to games of a bottom feeder for so long.
 

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