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For me, this is the opposite end of the spectrum.

I'm not comfortable, at all, with adults having sex with 13 year olds. Boys or girls. I think at a certain age, parents have an expectation that society will prevent predatory behavior. I mean, we don't let 13 year old kids do quite a number of things, I don't see why sex can't be added to that list.

Now, again, I don't believe in throwing the book at someone if they (as well as a jury) reasonably believed the other party was of age; but at 13, the reasonable part there is stretched so thin that I don't think it's really worth talking about.

That's why I say 16, which is the majority consensus of the states now, makes perfect sense. 14-15, and I have no problem with the courts getting involved just don't charge these guys with "rape." 13 years old? I have a hard time understanding how that's a consensual and equal sexual relationship - I can leave room for doubt - but... There's not many 13 year olds that can successfully pass as adults. This is were I'd start to think it's completely unreasonable in the general case.

Any way you shitslice it, it's a pressing issue for many.

As for "predatory behavior", no law is going to prevent that. Laws generally don't prevent anything. A no gun sign is not going to prevent the criminal from shooting up a theater. Putting a 21 year law in effect will not stop anyone from being attracted to someone that is 18 and/or prevent them from having sex - not to mention it's just plain silly. I don't believe arbitrary ages should be the deciding factor in determining such "laws". 16 may be a more comfortable deciding age (18 may or may not even be considered a true age at which many people become "adults" especially in today's society), but I moreso alluded to 13 as an age when many adolescents have entered puberty - and upon further investigation it seems like 16 is an average age when both boys and girls have completed puberty - which is my basis for this sexual discussion.

Are there laws preventing 15 year olds from having consensual sexual relationships (with each other)?
 
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Any way you shitslice it, it's a pressing issue for many.

As for "predatory behavior", no law is going to prevent that. Laws generally don't prevent anything. A no gun sign is not going to prevent the criminal from shooting up a theater. Putting a 21 year law in effect will not stop anyone from being attracted to someone that is 18 and/or prevent them from having sex - not to mention it's just plain silly.

I mean predatory in the sense that, there are guys who might not be pedophiles simply because it's so fucking illegal. But if they could go to the local middle school and game an 8th grader, I mean, that's a fucking problem. So no, I don't want a society where something like that is considered okay and I've got no problem with someone getting jail-time for doing it.

Are there laws preventing 15 year olds from having consensual sexual relationships (with each other)?

States vary, but yes in some states there are laws like this. 15 year olds get prosecuted for having sex with 13 year olds, etc, all the time.
 
You're right... we have very different experiences.

I've shared my first sexual experiences on this board before (hell, it even came up in the weekend chats). I was essentially "raped" by my best friends older sister. I put "rape" around quotes because by any definition you'll find, it was rape - and no it was not consensual, I said no, she told me she'd tell all my friends I was a "fag" because I was scared and "didn't like girls." She was popular, and if she said that, people would start calling me a fag. So I did what she said.. But even with that, I simply don't consider myself a victim. Even though I was 11 years old, and she was 18-19 years old. I don't consider myself a victim.

It all started off with her "teaching me how to kiss" to get me ready for all the girls that would want to try. That quickly turned into touching, and her "examining" my junk to see if "my balls had dropped." That turned into this chick forcing me to go down on her until she came. And that eventually turned into hump sessions where I would essentially just grind into her, with some penetration but not always, until she came. It wasn't until I was older (13) and more conditioned that it turned "consensual," meaning that I wouldn't say no.

By the time I was 16, her and I were dating on the side. She would have guys and I would have girls, but when we were around each other, everyone knew we were a couple.

Now, here's the crazy part.

Everyone found out about this when I was 12 years old. Even my own mother found out some things; the chick was so ill she called and left this weird ass sexual message on the answering machine and everyone in my house heard it while she was calling. My brothers looked at me, my mom looked at me, my stepdad just put his head down like wtf have I gotten into... My mom was like "wtf did you do?" My brothers were like "wow.. ole girl up the way?" My older brother was kind of shocked and worried, but my oldest brother who was more streetwise was not only impressed, but encouraging.

So again, I don't consider myself a victim. My mom went over there and talked with her; and she told my mom, and they had the weirdest conversation I've ever heard. My mother banned me from going over there and threatened the girl; but I lost my best friend. After awhile, my oldest brother convinced my mother than no harm was done and I should be able to go over my friends house.. And so I did. And it started right back up...

But the quick point here is that, had I been female, all hell would've broken loose and either my mother or oldest brother would have shot the assailant - consensual or not. So there is a serious double standard here.
Holy shit man, that sounds like rape to me. I'm pretty sure they consider it rape when older men seduce little boys and girls by using language similar to what that girl did to you. I'm pretty confident that Sandusky and leaders of the catholic church were doing shit like this forever and maybe victims were afraid to speak out "because they let it happen." When you are that young you just don't have all the tools to deal with situations like that and can easily cave in from coercion. I'm not a big fan of this new rapey culture either. Where girls are ashamed of what they did after the fact, so they cry rape (when yes sometimes means no). They were old enough to know what was going on and instead of learning and moving on; they try ruin someones life because of the shame they feel. Kids, like you were, are completely different though, and extortion should always be considered rape legal age or not.
 
For me, this is the opposite end of the spectrum.

I'm not comfortable, at all, with adults having sex with 13 year olds. Boys or girls. I think at a certain age, parents have an expectation that society will prevent predatory behavior. I mean, we don't let 13 year old kids do quite a number of things, I don't see why sex can't be added to that list.

Now, again, I don't believe in throwing the book at someone if they (as well as a jury) reasonably believed the other party was of age; but at 13, the reasonable part there is stretched so thin that I don't think it's really worth talking about.

That's why I say 16, which is the majority consensus of the states now, makes perfect sense. 14-15, and I have no problem with the courts getting involved just don't charge these guys with "rape." 13 years old? I have a hard time understanding how that's a consensual and equal sexual relationship - I can leave room for doubt - but... There's not many 13 year olds that can successfully pass as adults. This is were I'd start to think it's completely unreasonable in the general case.

I mean, 16 is a premature adult age. You can drive, old enough to stay home by yourself. You're old enough to babysit and be an authority figure among younger ages. You're not as dependent on your parents, and about 90% ready to be an independent person that's capable of making your own decisions. Those decisions aren't always good, they're not supposed to be either. Everyone at a young age is supposed to make mistakes, because that's part of the lessons of learning in life. But you, yourself, are at least ready and capable to start making a lot of decisions on you're own.

You're pretty much setup and ready to take care of yourself.

Someone at 13, definitely not ready to do all those things.

I've said it time and time again, I really don't think overall, there's a big gap between 20 and 16. Of course it varies a lot with each person. Some grow up much faster, some don't. I don't think I personally was much different at all between those ages.

24-25 is when I started evolving a lot more differently from those ages.
 
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You didnt break any laws as you had all expectations she was at least 19 (i think the legal age to bartend in Ohio)

The story that if a girl lies about her age and you still go to jail if you really had no way of knowing is just urban myth. It rarely happens.
I believe it is 19 to serve and 21 to serve over a bar(bartender). This is another age that should be adjusted. A lot of people pay fines and get records for drinking when they are 20.
 
Holy shit man, that sounds like rape to me.

I mean.. yeah.. I know.. it does sound like rape. Her and I would get into physical altercations, but since I was only an 11 year old boy, she'd slap the shit out of my and wrestle me to the ground. She'd essentially just hold me in her room until I either calmed down, agreed to do what she said (I had 0% interest), or she'd start leveling threats.

She was physically and verbally abusive for the whole duration -- at least until I turned 13 and we started having "normal" sex. But when I was younger, man.. let's just say, she did some ill shit...

I'm pretty sure they consider it rape when older men seduce little boys and girls by using language similar to what that girl did to you. I'm pretty confident that Sandusky and leaders of the catholic church were doing shit like this forever and maybe victims were afraid to speak out "because they let it happen." When you are that young you just don't have all the tools to deal with situations like that and can easily cave in from coercion. I'm not a big fan of this new rapey culture either. Where girls are ashamed of what they did after the fact, so they cry rape (when yes sometimes means no). They were old enough to know what was going on and instead of learning and moving on; they try ruin someones life because of the shame they feel. Kids, like you were, are completely different though, and extortion should always be considered rape legal age or not.

I agree completely..

I think it's ill though that everybody found out.. Everybody knows about me and this girl.. Like all of my friends, my siblings, my mom and dad, her mom, her brother (my old best friend) .. They all knew a year after it first started happening.

To this day, when I go back around that part of town, folks ask me "have you talked to ole girl? have you seen the kids recently?" It's really really really a strange fucking dynamic. I haven't been over there in a grip though.
 
So, does this mean Subway is going to switch back to it's original spokesman?

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So, does this mean Subway is going to switch back to it's original spokesman?

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He's guilty of an even more heinous crime than Jared...

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Why do they let it go on for a decade? I understand building a case, but a decade?

Crazy shit in this world.

Collect evidence that they didn't have, but I do agree, it's still pretty sick, given he was engaging in sexual acts. The FBI obviously knew of it, but waited till they could build a stronger case against him. But.... are going to cut him a deal anyways?

I really don't understand our justice system sometimes. It's like, it's more important to just catch them in the act, than them doing the act itself.

I mean, if it were just child pornography, I guess.... Given they might want to build their case on the entire people involved, not just Jared. But he was engaging in sexual acts?

The entire thing to me is disturbing. Boy, would I be VERY angry at the FBI, if my child became a victim of him during this time period, knowing the FBI let it occur.
 
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Jared felt comfortable enough with that lady to ask her to install hidden cameras in one of her children's room (her choice)? He actually thought someone would be game for this? Jared is a sick bastard, and apparently a moron too.

Yeah, it is puzzling that they would build a case for this damn long only to look to strike a deal for a shorter sentence.

I know Jared probably has outstanding lawyers backing him, but the evidence is looking pretty strong here. I'm with the other people in hoping that the judge ignores what the prosecution is seeking and throws the book at him.

The guy used his fame, money, and power to exploit children in the worst way possible. The schmuck was reckless and sloppy with his execution thankfully.
 
Jared felt comfortable enough with that lady to ask her to install hidden cameras in one of her children's room (her choice)? He actually thought someone would be game for this? Jared is a sick bastard, and apparently a moron too.

Yeah, it is puzzling that they would build a case for this damn long only to look to strike a deal for a shorter sentence.

I know Jared probably has outstanding lawyers backing him, but the evidence is looking pretty strong here. I'm with the other people in hoping that the judge ignores what the prosecution is seeking and throws the book at him.

The guy used his fame, money, and power to exploit children in the worst way possible. The schmuck was reckless and sloppy with his execution thankfully.

I seriously can't believe, someone would really ask a parent that about their own kids. What a really fucked up guy. Like, seriously? It's almost too far-fetch to believe.
 
I seriously can't believe, someone would really ask a parent that about their own kids. What a really fucked up guy. Like, seriously? It's almost too far-fetch to believe.

It really is an incredible story. I'm assuming they taped the conversations. I mean, it was an FBI investigation, so surely they taped him saying these things?

I mean, if they did, they could've arrested him then and there on the spot.. Amazed they waited so long.
 
It really is an incredible story. I'm assuming they taped the conversations. I mean, it was an FBI investigation, so surely they taped him saying these things?

I mean, if they did, they could've arrested him then and there on the spot.. Amazed they waited so long.

I guess sometimes we forget law enforcement (I don't mean all of them) aren't always exactly good people either.

Building a big case, to enhance their own agendas, over the famous Jared, seemed more important in furthering their own careers, than what this guy is doing to innocent victims.

If this is true, I think they're just as bad as Jared, personally.

Reading some comments on Yahoo, and some previous law enforcement/current commenting on this, and they're not exactly shocked by this. Kinda alarming to me.
 

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