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Joe "Captain America" Harris

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And Chris Grant would still be here if he didn't pick a blind, overweight, tweener with the first pick in the draft in 2013.

I know some people like to defend Grant, but let's not act like he was infallible or didn't deserve to be fired.
 
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And Chris Grant would still be here if he didn't pick a blind, overweight, tweener with the first pick in the draft in 2013.

I know some people like to defend Grant, but let's not act like he was infallible or didn't deserve to be fired.
Who could we have taken that would have saved him?
 
Who could we have taken that would have saved him?
It was the wrong pick and don't make this about counterfactuals! Bennett bad... Other picks good...
 
Bennett does have a 17.5 per this year and is shooting 53%
 
Well, I'm not sure a pick could have saved him, what with rehiring Mike Brown and giving Earl Clark a starting spot, but Alex Len sure would look REALLY nice right about now.

I was a huge Len fan as I still want my longterm center. But he was medically red flagged for bad feet and ankles.
 
And Chris Grant would still be here if he didn't pick a blind, overweight, tweener with the first pick in the draft in 2013.

I know some people like to defend Grant, but let's not act like he was infallible or didn't deserve to be fired.
Grant's biggest sin was brining back Mike Brown. I was fine with pretty much everything else he did.
 
Report: Joe Harris will soon become starting two-guard for Cavaliers
Brett Pollakoff


Nov 16, 2014, 4:30 PM EST

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Joe Harris was selected with the 33rd overall pick in this year’s draft by the Cavaliers, and while second round picks aren’t owed anything by NBA rule, Harris not only made the team, but was given a two-year, fully guaranteed contract to join the roster.

On a team loaded with star talent that’s expected to contend for a title, Harris seeing anything other than garbage time minutes seemed to be a long shot.

But he’s played well when he’s gotten his chances early on — so much so that he may soon find himself being introduced with the likes of LeBron James,Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving as a member of the team’s starting lineup.

From Jason Lloyd of the Akron Beacon-Journal:

With the way he is progressing and as well as he is playing, Joe Harris will be the starting shooting guard sooner rather than later. Much sooner. As in within a couple of weeks (or less), one source with knowledge of the team’s thinking said. At least one member of the Cavs’ brain trust is already in favor of the switch.

It was the rookie second-round pick – not Dion Waiters or Mike Miller – playing the final six minutes of Friday’s tight game. The Cavs closed the night with Kyrie Irving and Harris in the backcourt, Shawn Marion and LeBron James in the frontcourt and Kevin Love at center. That’s a lineup they could use more and more going forward. …

What seems clear at this point is Dion Waiters’ move to the bench is long term and Marion starting at shooting guard seems short term. Someone has to fill that spot and Harris, at this point, is the likeliest candidate.

Harris doesn’t need the ball offensively, obviously, but is capable of hitting open shots at a high percentage. That makes him a perfect option to get some run with the starters, because Waiters likes to shoot the majority of time he touches the ball.

That kind of role can be far more useful to the second unit, and while Marion’s skill set makes him a great fit in any lineup, having him come off the bench to spell James (who is already logging a heavier-than-usual workload in terms of minutes) simply makes more sense.

Harris has averaged 20 minutes per game over Cleveland’s last three contests, and he’s knocked down five of his last eight attempts from three-point distance.
 
If it aint broke don't fix it. Keep Marion in the starting unit for now and give Harris all Millers minutes. It will save him for the playoffs when we need him too
 
Alex Len/ Noel would have been great now XD
Wouldn't he just be included in the Love deal anyways? The last two drafts are pretty inconsequential given what happened this past offseason. Those guys gave us the opportunity to land Love. That's enough for me. If you change even one of the variables, that whole sequence of events may have been altered.

So, that being said... thanks Chris.
 
If it aint broke don't fix it. Keep Marion in the starting unit for now and give Harris all Millers minutes. It will save him for the playoffs when we need him too

Whole point of starting Harris and sending Marion to the bench is to limit LeBron's minutes by being able to sub in Marion for him more often. Keeping Lebron's minutes down is more important than keeping Miller's down.
 
Whole point of starting Harris and sending Marion to the bench is to limit LeBron's minutes by being able to sub in Marion for him more often. Keeping Lebron's minutes down is more important than keeping Miller's down.
Right. One of the great things about the Marion signing was that we could limit LeBron's minutes without the defense totally falling apart and at least keeping a capable offensive player on the court. Marion right now is really the key to LeBron's minutes going down.

His starting is just a stopgap until Joe is ready. It's going to happen sooner rather than later, it seems... and it should. He seems like the perfect 3&D compliment at the 2 for the Kyrie, LeBron, Love, Varejao lineup. Let Dion and Marion run the second unit, which suddenly would look pretty damn formidable.
 
I think it is time to stop calling Harris a role player

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