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Re: #33: Joe Harris - G/F - University of Virginia

I like him, he has good size, has shown the ability to pass, shoot and handle, but doesn't break the offense and appears to know his limitations. If you can shoot, you can carve out a nice long nba career. I think he has the stuff to be a quality backup eventually. I loved his little zip pass he made LeBron style, quite impressive.
 
Re: #33: Joe Harris - G/F - University of Virginia

I like him, he has good size, has shown the ability to pass, shoot and handle, but doesn't break the offense and appears to know his limitations. If you can shoot, you can carve out a nice long nba career. I think he has the stuff to be a quality backup eventually. I loved his little zip pass he made LeBron style, quite impressive.

Yeah, Harris is just a solid basketball player. He's alert and active defensively, has adequate athleticism to guard his position, plays within his skill-set offensively. He also can do a little bit of multiple things--handle, court vision, patience. His one skill with potential to be elite is his shooting. If you count IQ, that's the second skill that projects well. I'm glad to have him on this team. In 2-3 years, he might shock everyone and start at the two between Irving and James. He would thrive with all the open looks.
 
Re: #33: Joe Harris - G/F - University of Virginia

Harris reminds me of Tyler Zeller. He has all the tools to be a solid basketball player in the NBA, but is probably going to get his ass kicked this year.
 
Re: #33: Joe Harris - G/F - University of Virginia

Harris reminds me of Tyler Zeller. He has all the tools to be a solid basketball player in the NBA, but is probably going to get his ass kicked this year.

Lucky for Harris, he doesn't have to play under the basket. It was probably his collegiate experience on display, but he was probably the most consistently impressive Cavs player on offense in the summer league (Wiggins included). He was a guy who made the right passes, drained more shots as the games went on and did not turn the ball over all that much in the flow of the offense.
 
Re: #33: Joe Harris - G/F - University of Virginia

^Concur. He will be great next to LBJ long term. High B-Ball IQ player with decent athleticism who can nail spot-up 3pters is pretty valuable on THIS particular team. I was watching him closely on defense, he's not a world beater on that end but he is smart and active enough to not be a liability.

I like him. Definitely a guy we should keep on the team for next year and beyond.
 
Re: #33: Joe Harris - G/F - University of Virginia

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>New at <a href="https://twitter.com/UpsideMotor">@UpsideMotor</a> Joe Harris signs two-year deal with Cleveland Cavaliers <a href="http://t.co/XZBvaxO70Q">http://t.co/XZBvaxO70Q</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/Sam_Vecenie">@sam_vecenie</a></p>&mdash; Hardwood Paroxysm (@HPbasketball) <a href="https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/statuses/491721739793997825">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Joe Harris has signed a two-year guaranteed deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
 
Re: #33: Joe Harris - G/F - University of Virginia


That means that they used cap space to do it. You have to use the MLE, the Bi-Annual, or cap space to sign second rounders unless you give them the minimum - but that can only be for two years. Even if the third year isn't guaranteed, they can't even put an option in unless they use an exception or cap space. So they used space to sign Harris and trade for Lucas.
 
Re: #33: Joe Harris (signs 3 year deal, $2.7M, 1st 2 years guaranteed)

yep Joe harris is one of the best basketball players in the united states.
 
Re: #33: Joe Harris (signs 3 year deal, $2.7M, 1st 2 years guaranteed)

http://www.fearthesword.com/2014/7/...joe-harris-from-the-perspective-of-a-virginia

Not bad that he compares fairly to Afflalo and is thought of as a more athletic JJ Redick. Also the comparison to Klay Thompson is not absurd.

Is there a player in the league you'd compare him to? Tell me why he isn't Jon Diebler.



Chris: Not Diebler - much stronger, better defensive fundamentals, more versatile offensively. Let's get the Klay comp out of the way, because of the Tony Bennett connection and because Joe's made this comp himself (great branding, Joe!). It's not absurd, as neither of them has median NBA athleticism and both are bigger guards. Klay's longer and was smoother driving and finishing toward the basket, but Joe's stronger and more comfortable with his back to the basket. Klay was a touch more athletic which is significant as you approach the margins, but you can dream a little on that comp if you want.



No perfect comps, but here are a few I like offensively: Overall ceiling is basically Afflalo. Offensively they're similar between the restricted area and 18'. Joe's worse around the rim, upside to be better as they approach the arc. Joe's better at moving without the ball, a serviceable ballhandler but even less effective creating off the dribble than Afflalo. Both are similarly challenged defending quicker players, have similar size, and would likely draw the same defensive matchups. The offensive value of either guy turns more on the players around them than you'd like. Jay Bilas has compared him to a stronger, more athletic JJ Redick; that's a pretty good comp. He's much less assertive dribbling the ball (will that change in the NBA?) but already a more efficient mover without the ball than JJ, especially going around flare and pin-down screens. If he's going to make it, his shot will have to translate like JJ's did. They shot the same in college from 3 but JJ took more/dumber/harder shots, so JJ's shot tool was probably ahead of Joe's from draft night to draft night. Sounds like Joe's been working on it though.



Defensive comps: My best guess defensive comp is Aaron McKie in a less favorable defensive environment for his tools, so more of McKie's old stops will be fouls on Harris, but his positioning will be good and he'll surprise you with the occasional disruptive play on defense. "36-year-old Ray Allen?" is a sneakily good worst-case-scenario comp on defense. Joe works well in a defined role of an effective system, does not have great quickness so he will get blown by, but is strong enough to slow faster guys down just enough for help to come. So yeah, Aaron McKie and Ray Allen comps, exactly what you expected.
 
Re: Joe Harris (signs 3 year deal, $2.7M, 1st 2 years guaranteed)

I doubt he'll play much this year. Regardless, I think he'll be a great role player down the road. I'm happy to see this type of contract. That way when Ray retires and Jones leaves we hopefully have a replacement. Miller, Allen, and Jones will also be good mentors for Harris, as long as he doesn't get sent down to the D-League.
 
I'm very happy Harris doesn't seem to be involved with the Love trade. I like his potential even if he does not get a lot of minutes this season.

But can you imagine the experience of being a rookie on this team this year?
He will benefit from what Wiggins will be losing. HOF'ers on your left and right.
 
But can you imagine the experience of being a rookie on this team this year?
He will benefit from what Wiggins will be losing. HOF'ers on your left and right.

If they get fat, I'll blame Harris for bringing doughnuts that were too delicious.
 

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