John Kasich - Does he have a decent chance?

[spydy13]

Kasich is tied for tenth (w/ perry) in the real clear politics average of polls, which puts him in line for the first debate in Cleveland in a little over a week.

What's even more terrifying is that trump is leading that average by almost 5 points. The party really does have no hope to win a national election for a long ass time.

 

[gourimoko]

I always thought it was moronic that people voted for a candidate just because they were from their home state.

It's like rooting for the Browns even when you live closer to Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

You vote for the home state candidates for pork barrel projects.

 

[Scrote Squad]

I can't trust a guy that thinks it's a good idea to have kids at age 48.

 

[NasstyNate]

The devil you know...

Kasich is popular in Ohio, and has done a good job of fixing our fiscal issues. Ohio was one of the states at risk for bankruptcy back in 2007, thankfully we avoided that embarrassment. I think people in Ohio would vote for Kasich hoping he'd have a similar effect on the national budget, and Kasich will likely be smart enough to run almost entirely on fiscal policy. But unless his polling numbers take a dramatic jump and give him a chance at a debate, he has no real chance at winning the nomination. I could definitely see him being the VP candidate though, the Republicans absolutely need to win Ohio this election cycle. (Hence the RNC coming to Cleveland)

Can you describe what he did to help fix Ohio's fiscal issues? I've been out of the loop. I know he expanded Medicare under the ACA and there were stories about him upsetting unions, but that's all I've heard. There was a national economic rebound in that time-frame due in part to increased federal spending and bailout of the auto companies, so I'm always cautious to give individual credit to governors, Democrat or Republican, absent actual, identifiable policies.

 

[The Voice]

The issue with the unions will most likely be addressed to the maximum if he does pass through. The ads will be horrendous.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

Teachers hate him. Fire and Police hate him. That's not a good start.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Teachers hate him. Fire and Police hate him. That's not a good start.

Part of the reason I no longer reside in Ohio.

 

[Kyrieville]

Can you describe what he did to help fix Ohio's fiscal issues? I've been out of the loop. I know he expanded Medicare under the ACA and there were stories about him upsetting unions, but that's all I've heard. There was a national economic rebound in that time-frame due in part to increased federal spending and bailout of the auto companies, so I'm always cautious to give individual credit to governors, Democrat or Republican, absent actual, identifiable policies.

He cut local city/township funding and funding to public schools (but increased funding to charter schools).

He also closed two developmental centers that house mentally retarded individuals.

He sold some state property (prison(s)) and privatized a prison or two.

 

[The Voice]

He cut workers from the governors staff and gave his people pay raises.


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[The Voice]

Part of the reason I no longer reside in Ohio.

Because he was trying to cut teachers salaries?


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[The Human Q-Tip]

Teachers hate him. Fire and Police hate him. That's not a good start.

Well, certainly the public employees unions hate him, even if all their members do not.

He clearly handled that whole thing horribly. You go after public employee unions last. He should have pushed right to work statewide first, because that brings in money from the private sector to counter the massive spending from unions. But when you only pick on the public sector, nobody in the private sector has enough skin in the game to make contributions worthwhile, so you end up with a massively funded campaign on the union side, and virtually nothing on the other.

Terrible strategery.

 

[MalTalm]

Can you describe what he did to help fix Ohio's fiscal issues? I've been out of the loop. I know he expanded Medicare under the ACA and there were stories about him upsetting unions, but that's all I've heard. There was a national economic rebound in that time-frame due in part to increased federal spending and bailout of the auto companies, so I'm always cautious to give individual credit to governors, Democrat or Republican, absent actual, identifiable policies.

Rather than try and provide a personal viewpoint, I'll try and link you to some mostly unbiased sources on what he has actually done.

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/promises/kasich-o-meter/

http://www.economist.com/news/unite...ould-be-formidable-candidate-kasich-conundrum

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/john-kasich-believe-candidate-stands-10-issues/

What you'll notice is a strong focus on bringing in and retaining national corporations. He also has taken steps to create an atmosphere where businesses can grow and be successful, and again stay in state once reaching that point. He's taking steps to eliminate the income tax in the state, remove the death tax, and offset training costs for businesses.

He did try to wage a war with the government unions in the state under the belief that government employees shouldn't be unionized, but that backfired famously. While my viewpoint isn't likely the favorite of this board, I do think he had a point, but it's hard to get it across when you're facing that much funding and preconceived notions of the struggle for teachers and police officers to get it heard.

His biggest mistake, IMO, was attempting to cut wages more or less across the board for all government employees EXCEPT for elected officials. Now, he probably couldn't have passed it without that exception, but it screamed self-serving to the common man.

There are many things I don't agree with Kasich on, but they are mostly social issues. It's hard to argue against his pragmatic approach when it comes to fiscal policy. Simply put, he wants to remove roadblocks for development and tax on the back end. He wants to remove competitive advantages states like PA, Texas and Florida have in their more progressive taxing policies and get Ohio on track, previously we've been fighting with a decrease in population with an increase in taxes to offset the losses, a model which is obviously unsustainable, and had us in a very bad position less than a decade ago. I don't know if people have short memories or just don't travel outside of the state very often, but things were pretty damn bad here in Ohio very recently. It's night and day to what it is now, and we still have a ways to go.

 

[NasstyNate]

Rather than try and provide a personal viewpoint, I'll try and link you to some mostly unbiased sources on what he has actually done.

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/promises/kasich-o-meter/

http://www.economist.com/news/unite...ould-be-formidable-candidate-kasich-conundrum

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/john-kasich-believe-candidate-stands-10-issues/

What you'll notice is a strong focus on bringing in and retaining national corporations. He also has taken steps to create an atmosphere where businesses can grow and be successful, and again stay in state once reaching that point. He's taking steps to eliminate the income tax in the state, remove the death tax, and offset training costs for businesses.

Famously, he did try to wage a war with the government unions in the state under the belief that government employees shouldn't be unionized, but that backfired famously. While my viewpoint isn't likely the favorite of this board, I do think he had a point, but it's hard to get it across when you're facing that much funding and preconceived notions of the struggle for teachers and police officers to get it heard.

His biggest mistake, IMO, was attempting to cut wages more or less across the board for all government employees EXCEPT for elected officials. Now, he probably couldn't have passed it without that exception, but it screamed self-serving to the common man.

There are many things I don't agree with Kasich on, but they are mostly social issues. It's hard to argue against his pragmatic approach when it comes to fiscal policy. Simply put, he wants to remove roadblocks for development and tax on the back end. He wants to remove competitive advantages states like PA, Texas and Florida have in their more progressive taxing policies and get Ohio on track, previously we've been fighting with a decrease in population with an increase in taxes to offset the losses, a model which is obviously unsustainable, and had us in a very bad position less than a decade ago. I don't know if people have short memories or just don't travel outside of the state very often, but things were pretty damn bad here in Ohio very recently. It's night and day to what it is now, and we still have a ways to go.

Thanks for taking the time dude! I'll take a look.

 

[Bill Walton.]

Guys.. Kasich works...

 

[Ohdang]

I'd absolutely give consideration to voting for Kasich for president, which is more than I can say for almost every other candidate. What I've read about him sounds pretty good, and I have definitely noticed Ohio has improved vastly in the pasty handful of years. Still haven't decided how much of that can be attributed to him, but it couldn't hurt. And at the very least, he didn't get in the way.