JR Smith

[Mr. MacPhisto]

As Kenny Smith would say, LETS GO HOE!

I thought that was Greg Anthony.

 

[Mr. MacPhisto]

JR doesn't like Cleveland's nightlife. Nothing to do here but play video games and order pizza

I loved how they talked about that not long after showing a shot of E. 4th St. It's not NYC, but there's still plenty to do and more on the way.

 

[priceFTW]

He's made 14 threes in 5 games. Yes, he's chucked up like a chucker par excellence, but he's hit enough to have defenses respect him. Marion has hit 12 all year and Dion hit 22 in 33 games.

Update--in 7 games , he's now made 20 threes in 7 games.

Marion has made 12 in 37 games.
Waiters made 22 in 33 games.
Miller has made 25 in 29 games.

JR "Knucklehead pipe layer" Smith, 20 in 7 games, a pace that would yield 234 in an 82 game season, 7th most in NBA history.

Sooner or later there will be a dry spell of no step-back fadeaway threes, but I'm enjoying this.

 

[Walter White]

Wonder if JR will be eligible for 6th man of the year. Not sure how that works. He has obviously been starting for us while Shump has been out. Don't know what he did in NY. He will be back to the bench when Shump is back, but he could easily be a 6th man candidate if eligible.

 

[TFIR]

As a resident of NY state, I watched many a game with JR Smith playing on the Knicks as the local team on cable.

The year he won 6th man of the year, he was on a veteran team and stayed focused. This guy has crazy talent - if he can keep his head together he is a total steal.

Edit - people tend to forget he had a knee procedure as well after that big year.

 

[Mr. MacPhisto]

Update--in 7 games , he's now made 20 threes in 7 games.

Marion has made 12 in 37 games.
Waiters made 22 in 33 games.
Miller has made 25 in 29 games.

JR "Knucklehead pipe layer" Smith, 20 in 7 games, a pace that would yield 234 in an 82 game season, 7th most in NBA history.

Sooner or later there will be a dry spell of no step-back fadeaway threes, but I'm enjoying this.

Smith is a great catch and shoot guy. That could work wonderfully for this squad. I'd love to see them grab Farmar and get some more inside depth (wonder if we can have James Jones "retire" and get a front office job to clear a spot?). That could give them a strong second unit.

 

[The Red Viper]

I thought that was Greg Anthony.

/thread

 

[Lee]

Sooner or later there will be a dry spell of no step-back fadeaway threes, but I'm enjoying this.

I don't agree. He has really only contributed by scoring in 4 of 7 games. In 3 games he didn't hit a three, in those games he averaged only about 7.6 shots a game. In the 4 games he has hit a 3, he has averaged 16.5 shots,

My point is when his shot is not falling, he doesn't shoot as much. He cuts himself off, atleast on this team, ie a perceived contender.

What is interesting, for a "bad" defender he has gotten a steal and a rebound in every game. Further, the only game he didnt get an assist was his first game where he was thrown in there with no practice.

In fact, in one game he didn't hit a 3, he did get 4 dimes and 3 steals. Staying engaged and contributing in other ways.

Lets hope smoty Jr stays and not NYK Jr.

 

[Mr. MacPhisto]

I don't agree. He has really only contributed by scoring in 4 of 7 games. In 3 games he didn't hit a three, in those games he averaged only about 7.6 shots a game. In the 4 games he has hit a 3, he has averaged 16.5 shots,

My point is when his shot is not falling, he doesn't shoot as much. He cuts himself off, atleast on this team, ie a perceived contender.

What is interesting, for a "bad" defender he has gotten a steal in every game. In fact, in one game he didn't hit a 3, he did get 4 dimes and 3 steals. Staying engaged and contributing in other ways.

Lets hope smoty Jr stays and not NYK Jr.

The former is more likely. The Knicks are such a trainwreck this year with a massive void in leadership. I loved the clip they showed of JR where he talked about how LeBron came to him. LBJ showed leadership and Smith responded. He's a mess on a dysfunctional team because he needs someone to look to and respect. Melo might be a great player, but dude is a stat stuffer and not a leader. Kyrie and LBJ both exude strong leadership qualities and have stepped up. Smith responds to that and shows he's far more than just a chucker. He will chuck that ball when it's going in - and we'll love him for doing it. JR will come off the bench in the future and be a dagger in heart of the Cavs' opponents on some nights. But he was always good at backing off when he was on teams with direction and his shot wasn't falling.

He doesn't do it every night, but we're going to see several games where teams will be wishing we put LBJ back in as a sub for Smith because he is scorching them. Hopefully it continues that he pulls back when he's not hot, but facilitates and brings effort on D.

We've got a long way to go, but it's hard not to be encouraged by 2 of the 3 assets we've received in trade. And it's pretty sweet just seeing Shumpert on the bunch with his hair right now too. Anybody else want to trade for Noel just so we can get ownership of another high top fade?

 

[teamballer]

The former is more likely. The Knicks are such a trainwreck this year with a massive void in leadership. I loved the clip they showed of JR where he talked about how LeBron came to him. LBJ showed leadership and Smith responded. He's a mess on a dysfunctional team because he needs someone to look to and respect. Melo might be a great player, but dude is a stat stuffer and not a leader. Kyrie and LBJ both exude strong leadership qualities and have stepped up. Smith responds to that and shows he's far more than just a chucker. He will chuck that ball when it's going in - and we'll love him for doing it. JR will come off the bench in the future and be a dagger in heart of the Cavs' opponents on some nights. But he was always good at backing off when he was on teams with direction and his shot wasn't falling.

He doesn't do it every night, but we're going to see several games where teams will be wishing we put LBJ back in as a sub for Smith because he is scorching them. Hopefully it continues that he pulls back when he's not hot, but facilitates and brings effort on D.

We've got a long way to go, but it's hard not to be encouraged by 2 of the 3 assets we've received in trade. And it's pretty sweet just seeing Shumpert on the bunch with his hair right now too. Anybody else want to trade for Noel just so we can get ownership of another high top fade?

Miller and Harris for Noel? Why not...

 

[Mr. MacPhisto]

Miller and Harris for Noel? Why not...

Would work. Though I think trading any player to the Knicks or Sixers (unless those players are immediately cut by either team) would be considered "cruel or unusual punishment" under the US Constitution and could be thrown out by the Supreme Court.

 

[PriceFan14]

The former is more likely. The Knicks are such a trainwreck this year with a massive void in leadership. I loved the clip they showed of JR where he talked about how LeBron came to him. LBJ showed leadership and Smith responded. He's a mess on a dysfunctional team because he needs someone to look to and respect. Melo might be a great player, but dude is a stat stuffer and not a leader. Kyrie and LBJ both exude strong leadership qualities and have stepped up. Smith responds to that and shows he's far more than just a chucker. He will chuck that ball when it's going in - and we'll love him for doing it. JR will come off the bench in the future and be a dagger in heart of the Cavs' opponents on some nights. But he was always good at backing off when he was on teams with direction and his shot wasn't falling.

He doesn't do it every night, but we're going to see several games where teams will be wishing we put LBJ back in as a sub for Smith because he is scorching them. Hopefully it continues that he pulls back when he's not hot, but facilitates and brings effort on D.

We've got a long way to go, but it's hard not to be encouraged by 2 of the 3 assets we've received in trade. And it's pretty sweet just seeing Shumpert on the bunch with his hair right now too. Anybody else want to trade for Noel just so we can get ownership of another high top fade?

How about this one

http://realcavsfans.com/community/index.php?threads/tristan-thompson.38304/page-480#post-1981112

 

[Simmy]

I don't agree. He has really only contributed by scoring in 4 of 7 games. In 3 games he didn't hit a three, in those games he averaged only about 7.6 shots a game. In the 4 games he has hit a 3, he has averaged 16.5 shots,

My point is when his shot is not falling, he doesn't shoot as much. He cuts himself off, atleast on this team, ie a perceived contender.

What is interesting, for a "bad" defender he has gotten a steal and a rebound in every game. Further, the only game he didnt get an assist was his first game where he was thrown in there with no practice.

In fact, in one game he didn't hit a 3, he did get 4 dimes and 3 steals. Staying engaged and contributing in other ways.

Lets hope smoty Jr stays and not NYK Jr.

This is a great post, Lee, and goes back to what I was saying the other day. JR seems like the kind of guy who can thrive within the system of a team wanting and willing to win. In NY, he was an offensive option doing next to whatever he pleased, even if it wasn't in the best interests of the team. New York was going nowhere and JR was going nowhere personally within the confines of their restricted roster and conference record.

Since he's come here, I've seen nothing but good things. Is it possible that at some point he might hit a real rough patch and we'll be getting fed up with him game after game really quickly? Sure, but at this point, I don't think that's likely. He looks like he's thriving within this system, playing within himself and contributing to the team doing what he does best, not trying (or, as per New York, on account of their lack of personnel, being forced to be) the player he isn't.

I really think JR is going to be a key cog to this team moving forward and he seems to be quickly slotting into a 'fan favorite' role at the Q, judging by their reaction to him tonight.

 

[I'mWithDan]

JR Smith as a starter:

17 PPG, 3.3 REB, 1.8 STL
FG - (39/84) 46.4%
3PT - (20/47) 42.6%
TS% - 59.2%

This cannot be sustainable.

 

[Frank Reynolds]

How nice is it to have J.R who will just fire it up, opposed to watching Dion who slows the ball up, then tries to rock somebody to sleep with the handle, only to throw up a fadeaway jumper with 8 seconds left on the shot clock.

If you are determined to shoot it, shoot it as soon as possible. Hesitating is the worst thing to do for so many reasons. JR was stepping INTO it! Loved seeing it. He just seems so much quicker and more spontaneous, whereas Dion wasn't good enough to be so methodical; he's not going to pick you apart w/ his mind. JR's energy and understanding of getting buckets is just so much more fun to watch IMO.