Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[oracio]

I just found what can make Love's defense efficiency and stat skyrocket - guard with your hands up!
He is a tall guy, why doesn't he contest layups and shots with his hands up? I'm sure it will add the missing inches from not trying to jump...

 

[LeShaq]

That and his shooting sucks by his standards too.

No, this is also untrue. Like many other things that have been asserted in this thread.

Kevin Love's career true shooting percentage
.566

Kevin Love's 2014-15 true shooting percentage
.563

But it's ok. If people wish to make more empty pronouncements they can do so. Because making fact free statements based on emotion probably feels a whole lot better than actually knowing what one is talking about when commenting. I guess so, anyways.

 

[DatDudeZ3]

Wait for Mozzy to get here... Kevin will take another step up..

 

[6kiss]

No, this is also untrue. Like many other things that have been asserted in this thread.

Kevin Love's career true shooting percentage
.566

Kevin Love's 2014-15 true shooting percentage
.563

But it's ok. If people wish to make more empty pronouncements they can do so. Because making fact free statements based on emotion probably feels a whole lot better than actually knowing what one is talking about when commenting. I guess so, anyways.

If thats the case that stat is completely useless. Loves shooting has been horrendous this year. Im sick of all these stats, anyone who watches the games can see how bad this guys shooting has been this year.

 

[Jordan]

If thats the case that stat is completely useless. Loves shooting has been horrendous this year. Im sick of all these stats, anyone who watches the games can see how bad this guys shooting has been this year.

Can you provide a stat that works better?

 

[theSTEREO.]

Kevin still two back in the All Star voting. At first I was surprised, but then I looked at previous years. I had totally not realized that Bosh never got voted a starter. That's kinda crazy, considering Heatles and all that.

Also side note, weird to me how Kyrie got voted as a starter last year despite it being his worst year. This year he deserves it far more, but will only get in as a coaches' selection.

It's weird. On one hand I'm kind of impressed that fans are voting Wall in cause he deserves it. Then at the same time they are voting Kobe, Melo and Wade so I dunno. Gasol deserves it, but somehow I think he's getting by more on his name from his Lakers days.

 

[6kiss]

Can you provide a stat that works better?

No I dont because stats in basketball are more misleading than they are in any other sport. Anyone who watches the game can see hes not impacting the game. The box score, the true shooting stats, the career stats, all dont reflect what type of player you. Love is a stat filler who rarely makes an impact on the game. The Wolves were a talented team, and Love had the 3rd best PER in the league and yet they dont even sniff the playoffs. Do the math.

 

[The Oi]

No, this is also untrue. Like many other things that have been asserted in this thread.

Kevin Love's career true shooting percentage
.566

Kevin Love's 2014-15 true shooting percentage
.563

But it's ok. If people wish to make more empty pronouncements they can do so. Because making fact free statements based on emotion probably feels a whole lot better than actually knowing what one is talking about when commenting. I guess so, anyways.

Can you provide a stat that works better?

Yeah I mean how about...

His FG% last year was 45.7%
3pt% last year was 37.6%

This year he's rocking 43.6% from the field and 34.3% from three. Both of those averages are crappy by ANY positions standard and below league averages across the board too.

They're both well below his career numbers as well.

So his shooting sucks by his standards.

 

[Jordan]

No I dont because stats in basketball are more misleading than they are in any other sport. Anyone who watches the game can see hes not impacting the game. The box score, the true shooting stats, the career stats, all dont reflect what type of player you. Love is a stat filler who rarely makes an impact on the game. The Wolves were a talented team, and Love had the 3rd best PER in the league and yet they dont even sniff the playoffs. Do the math.

The Wolves were a talented team? Really? Because I'm pretty sure they still suck. They were always terrible.

Stats are not incorrect. They can be misleading depending on how they are used, thus, it is important to view them holistically. When one does so it is pretty clear Love is a good shooter who impacts the game offensively. Moreover, they make abundantly clear that without a center Love is atrocious on D and with a healthy big man he is below average.

 

[cavsfever]

Can you provide a stat that works better?

Love is across the board shooting worse than any year except for his rookie year and his injury year where he tried to come back and then had to shut it down. So any way you look at it -- on the court and from his stats -- he is shooting lousy. I don't know how you are coming up with your TS stat but it seems like cherry picking.

Also, god has he missed a ton of wide open 3s this year.

 

[TitleTown]

No, this is also untrue. Like many other things that have been asserted in this thread.

Kevin Love's career true shooting percentage
.566

Kevin Love's 2014-15 true shooting percentage
.563

But it's ok. If people wish to make more empty pronouncements they can do so. Because making fact free statements based on emotion probably feels a whole lot better than actually knowing what one is talking about when commenting. I guess so, anyways.

 

[Jordan]

Love is across the board shooting worse than any year except for his rookie year and his injury year where he tried to come back and then had to shut it down. So any way you look at it -- on the court and from his stats -- he is shooting lousy. I don't know how you are coming up with your TS stat but it seems like cherry picking.

Also, god has he missed a ton of wide open 3s this year.

Right. I'm not saying he is not playing worse. He definitely is. But saying his shooting "sucks" or he provides no impact is just statistically wrong. I know people have an issue with stats but they are better than pure conjecture.

 

[theSwayze]

I don't have the BBIQ of some of the poster here but I can say this with certainty, the addition of Mozzy bear, Shumpty Shump and JR will not make Love a worse defender.

 

[Cavatt]

It doesn't matter who he is paired with. This guy has to defend. He has to learn.

Mozgov will help, but he can't be this kind of liability if we want a great postseason

No I dont because stats in basketball are more misleading than they are in any other sport. Anyone who watches the game can see hes not impacting the game. The box score, the true shooting stats, the career stats, all dont reflect what type of player you. Love is a stat filler who rarely makes an impact on the game. The Wolves were a talented team, and Love had the 3rd best PER in the league and yet they dont even sniff the playoffs. Do the math.

I don't know how to disagree with this. The rebounding is the most mind boggling to me. He doesn't seem to add any rebounding. Everyone thought we would be killing teams on the boards. We aren't, even when Andy was healthy we weren't. Our team rebounding regressed this year adding "the best in the game".

I had heard he let's the guy put the shot up so he can rebound it. I am starting to believe it. I just expected a lot of extra possessions, but he really just took Andy and Tristan's rebounds. Tristan can hardly get a defensive rebound while Love is in there.

So far I have seen nothing to change my mind that he is a stat stuffer. He really hasn't dominated a game, and he has been so terrible in the clutch I am seeing a future where Tristan and Mozgov finish games in the playoffs for us.

The fact his percentages are just a little off, and the attention Kyrie and Lebron get hasn't increased his efficiency has me petrified.

I'm asking this question seriously now. What has he added that we didn't get from Spencer Hawes last year? His ability to stretch the floor is actually worse and Hawes could get his shot off over length. Max Contract. Id almost rather flip him for Melo and have Melo play pf for us.

Why would I want that!??

 

[The Oi]

Nope.