Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[nikolajz1]

Would trade Love for Draymond in a heartbeat.

Dude has zero heart and puts zero effort into the game.

 

[inliner311]

As much as I've come to hate Love and his game. One of the problems that this team has going to Love in the post late in games is Kyrie still can't figure out how to make the entry pass. Mike Miller does it early in games and when LBJ comes back he will. I think what ever backup point guard they look at needs to be able to make an entry pass into the post.

 

[nikolajz1]

As much as I've come to hate Love and his game. One of the problems that this team has going to Love in the post late in games is Kyrie still can't figure out how to make the entry pass. Mike Miller does it early in games and when LBJ comes back he will. I think what ever backup point guard they look at needs to be able to make an entry pass into the post.

They dont pass to Love in the post because he gets stuffed every time.

 

[priceFTW]

Love got the ball twice in the fourth. He made a three and drew a foul. In fact, he drew 7 fouls on limited touches. Playing with Mosgov is going to help him.

For all the moaning about Love, he was +5.9 per 100 possessions last year. When paired with Pekovic, he was +10. When he was on court, he was ahead more than he was behind. His RPM was top 12 last year and that metric takes into account defensive impact. Top 5 this year are Curry, Davis, Lowry, Lillard, Paul. Right behind are Cousins, Davis, Harden. He cannot go from a top 10ish impact player (counting aggregate defense and offense) to a role player in a year. Kyrie was 231st last with an aggregate negative impact as we were worse with him out on the floor last year than we were with him. These aren't perfect stats bu hey do show that Love can be a positive factor and I think we'll see that with Mosgov and when James comes back.

 

[Rich]

They dont pass to Love in the post because he gets stuffed every time.

Yea, because Kyrie is a known great entry passer. Kyrie hasn't been able to make an entry pass going on four years now. It's been a weakness in his game his entire career.

 

[Pioneer10]

Sick of all the Love hate. I get it he isn't great on defense and will never be. Against GSW his defense was adequate: wished he'd give a hard foul once in awhile and he didn't get hands up in time on a jumpshot or two but otherwise he was in position and didn't get blown by.

He got stuffed on one play in the 4th but then the next play he scored inside and the play after that he made a gorgeous touch pass to TT for an easy layup then nothing till he decided to take halfcourt 3 which he drilled Otherwise he was totally ignored by Irving and the play calling: the plays essentially had him at the corner 3 spot. Run him in the high post and feed Kyrie in the post if you have to (Kyrie has a very good post game and Love is a much better passer then Irving)

 

[Birdy89]

I used to scoff at the idea that stats could be empty.

Since Love has arrived in town I now can see how stat lines don't begin to tell the story about a player's real impact on a game.

 

[roozy]

Its pretty pathetic that a guy known as chucker (JR Smith) makes a better entry pass than our PG. Give Love the damn ball, this is embarrassing, Kyrie would rather do some fancy dribbles that lead to a turnover and chuck bad shots than pass the damn ball.

 

[Akron330]

Feel like he's getting a lot of hatred tonight. I thought he was doing some solid work, maybe they should look for him more often, especially in the 4th quarter.

I also don't understand the body language nonsense. Love is one of the few guys on this team that I have seen getting off the bench and cheering on his teammates. Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with his attitude. Give the dude the damn ball, you don't put up numbers like he has in his career without some MAJOR talent.

 

[inliner311]

I used to scoff at the idea that stats could be empty.

Since Love has arrived in town I now can see how stat lines don't begin to tell the story about a player's real impact on a game.

I think minny was the right situation for love because of rubio being a pass first guard and the big men they had around love. I also think the roster pre-LBJ signing was a better starting point for Kyrie and LBJ, because nether of them has made a Big man look better. They are the type of players that need Bigs that will do the dirty work not relied on to score.

 

[1290joe]

It's a crime how we are using kevin love. He was an absolute monster last year and comes here to get 11 shots against the best team in the nba? With Lebron out? I understand the frustration and unhappiness, and I think it carries over to his overall effort especially on the defensive end. We really haven't seen the real kevin love and it's a shame, the dude a weapon and he will walk leaving us without him or wiggins.

We need to get this figured out for any hope at a playoff run.

 

[supermario21]

Love looked like a monster because he was surrounded by no one who was going to take shots from him. Rubio? No. Brewer? No. Pekovic? No. Wesley Johnson? Nope. Kevin Martin was about it.

 

[CommD]

I have not been overly impressed with Love to this point. He is simply does not appear to be a dynamic impact player. He is skilled offensively, but below average defensively. I personally do not think he is a max player for this team.

However, I would be willing to go along with a long term development plan for the team in the "James Window" that includes a max extension for Kevin Love, IF this extension was already in place, but NOT in the scenario that presents itself now.

A player with the production he has shown, particularly on defense, should not be in the position to walk at the end of the year, with the team not in a cap position to adequately replace him. This is too much leverage for him to hold, especially considering what was sacrificed to bring him aboard. The stakes in regard to James status going forward are too high.

I, for one, will be looking at Griffin to see of he will have the stones to do the right thing at the trade deadline if Love's overall production does not increase to the level necessary to justify the leverage he will hold after the deadline passes.

 

[Henry Tuttle]

It'd be great if Kevin picked up some hard fouls from time to time, just show a little passion that would positively effect the team. At this point, though, I'd love nothing more than to see him commit any kind of foul. I don't know how someone acquires it, and I'm not sure I've ever seen it before to this extent, but I really would like know why he's so averse to presenting any sort of physical presence at the rim. I'm seriously wondering like what he went through as a kid or what dumbass coach he had in 8th grade that instilled such a fear of fouling. Here are his foul totals as of late, the stretch where we've most needed someone to step up and present a physical presence:

1, 3, 1, 1, 3, 1, 2, 1, 0, 2, 4, 2, 1, 1

 

[Henry Tuttle]

He did have a solid game tonight and recently, though. I'm just really confused.