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There is no way we are just letting Love walk after trading so much for him. He is getting a max offer.
Why keep bringing up Wiggins? That trade is utterly irrelevant to any discussion about what should be done with Love moving forward.
The relevance is that if Love walks with no compensation, it is a possibility (not certainty) that the Cavs made one of the worst trades in NBA history. No one (Griffin) wants that on their record.
I was making the case that that outcome would be somewhat alleviated by the acquisition of Smith and Shumpert. But you are right, whats done is done and we will all have to live with it.
The Heat did not give out max contracts. The players sacrificed to form the team they desired.
The Heat model was ultimately defeated by a better structured and more effective team (with ZERO max contracts), leading to the destruction of the team through the loss of LeBron James.
I simply do not believe that three max contracts are required to win. I chose three-point shooting, perimeter defense, and defense at the rim, to surround elite scorers and playmakers James and Irving.
But we will see where this goes as RFA's Shumpert and Thompson hit the market,
Smith declines his player option,
Delly needs re-signed, and Mozgov's agent demands $15M the following year in his first chance for a real contract. If all are re-signed (or adequately replaced, I am good with the Love max.
I should also note that another factor which makes Love expendable is the successful replacement of skills Wiggins would have brought to the table through the acquisition of Smith and Shumpert. These team components MUST be retained.
Still hoping for the opt-in….
Because being a free agent in 2016 rather than 2015 means he will make a hell of a lot more money. He has also said that he was going to opt in all seasonDunno why folks keep thinking Love opts in....
Why on Earth would he?
Who gains from him opting in?
Because being a free agent in 2016 rather than 2015 means he will make a hell of a lot more money. He has also said that he was going to opt in all season
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I think some people wish we were MinnesotaHoly fucking shit. The Cavs are one win away from the NBA Finals and we are still discussing Andrew Wiggins?
So I guess you're just going to toss out the rest of Kevin Love's career? Kevin has a higher career rebounding percentage [20.1 > 16.7], higher defensive rebounding percentage [29.2 > 20.5], and a negligibly lower offensive rebounding percentage [11.3 < 13.2] than TT.
Wouldn't want to discredit the manufactured theory that he's leaving/has distanced himself from the team. That wouldn't be fun. That doesn't sell.I had no idea Love was there last night. I don't think they even showed him on the telecast for some reason.
This is false. Only Wade took less money.
Net-net, James and Bosh got a pay increase due to the tax situation in Florida.
Only staying in Cleveland would have resulted in a higher yearly income, whereas going to Chicago or New York would've amounted to a loss.
The Heat went to 4 NBA Finals, consecutively, and won 2 of them. That's anything but being defeated.
They were the most dominant team in the league during their run.
I agree with you here, but nowhere does this demonstrate how three max contracts are more of a detriment.
If the owner is willing to spend, and the CBA permits us to go over the cap to re-sign our own players and add talent through the MLE - and considering Cleveland is not a destination city - having three superstars on max contracts is simply a dream come true.
Both RFA's; they aren't going anywhere unless we aren't willing to pay or we can trade for something better.
If he were to do this, it would be to re-sign with the Cavs for more years.
He's happy here; by his own admission, he is happier here than anywhere else he's ever played. Why would he leave?
Again, the cap goes over $100M in 2 years; I think your cap space fears are unwarranted.
My fear is due to injury of any of the Big 3; that's why I want consolidation of talent rather than all of these player's re-signed. But that's another topic.
I'm not sure what you mean, but I will agree (I think) that it would've been nice to have Wiggins for this title run.
Dunno why folks keep thinking Love opts in....
Why on Earth would he?
Who gains from him opting in?