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The Sonics team name and history went with the Thunder to OKC... If there were to be a team, Seattle would need to pick another name.

Seriously?

I guess that makes sense, because the FRANCHISE itself is bought, but that is bullshit. It is the Seattle SuperSonics.

How is that different than the Browns-Ravens? We still own the BROWNS records and the Ravens have their own records...
 
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NBA should have never allowed the Sonics to leave Seattle. Tough for Sacramento to lose a team but it's not like the Kings were founded there and they did take them from Kansas City. Kings franchise has been in Rochester, Cincinnati, KC, Sacramento and now Seattle.

Kings/Sonics should now get on a better track with new ownership and new front office personnel. Always thought the Cavs would get that #1 from Hickson/Casspi trade and now I'm even more confident they will.
 
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Well wikipedia is trusted. I cannot argue with Wikipedia.

It's sourced, you little shrew...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3545175

OKLAHOMA CITY -- The championship banners and trophies from the SuperSonics' best days will be staying in Seattle. But the flat screen TV in the coaches' locker room, that is going to Oklahoma City.

and

Bennett will retain the rights to the SuperSonics' name and logos, but has agreed not to use them after moving to Oklahoma City. If a new NBA team arrives in Seattle, Bennett would turn over the rights to the new team's owner at no cost, as long as it meets with NBA approval.
 
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NBA should have never allowed the Sonics to leave Seattle. Tough for Sacramento to lose a team but it's not like the Kings were founded there and they did take them from Kansas City. Kings franchise has been in Rochester, Cincinnati, KC, Sacramento and now Seattle.

Kings/Sonics should now get on a better track with new ownership and new front office personnel. Always thought the Cavs would get that #1 from Hickson/Casspi trade and now I'm even more confident they will.
They have been in Sacramento for 28 years... It's not like Sac got them yesterday.

Sacramento as a community also put in way more effort to keep their franchise.
 
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NBA should have never allowed the Sonics to leave Seattle. Tough for Sacramento to lose a team but it's not like the Kings were founded there and they did take them from Kansas City. Kings franchise has been in Rochester, Cincinnati, KC, Sacramento and now Seattle.

Kings/Sonics should now get on a better track with new ownership and new front office personnel. Always thought the Cavs would get that #1 from Hickson/Casspi trade and now I'm even more confident they will.

To be fair, half the damn teams in the NBA have moved at some point in their history, but most have been in one place long enough to be well-established.
 
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You know how many professional sports franchises Sacramento will have once the Kings are gone???0!! How would you feel if the only professional franchise you had in your city was taken away from you?
 
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Like I could finally get some work done.
 
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why are people happy sacramento was a great city with great fans do people already forget the cowbells they had during there great run. And it pisses me off that stern took there championship away in 2004 or 2003 i forget but it was against LAL the worst officated contest of all time
 
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why are people happy sacramento was a great city with great fans do people already forget the cowbells they had during there great run. And it pisses me off that stern took there championship away in 2004 or 2003 i forget but it was against LAL the worst officated contest of all time

Haven't seen too many people here happy about it.
 
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Still think the league might want to consider expanding instead of relocating. How about teams in KC and Seattle (West and Western Conference, moving Memphis to the East)

Then, set it up NFL-style; 4 divisions of four teams in each conference. Division winners are automatically in the playoffs, then the 5-8 seeds are record-based. Maybe even have clever names for the divisions since you can't have East East/West West etc. For example:

East A (Midwest Division)
Cleveland Cavaliers
Detroit Pistons
Chicago Bulls
Indiana Pacers

East B (Southern Division)
Memphis Grizzlies
Atlanta Hawks
Orlando Magic
Miami Heat

East C (Northeast Division)
Boston Celtics
Brooklyn Nets
New York Knicks
Milwaukee Bucks

East D (Beltway Division?)
Philadelphia 76ers
Toronto Raptors
Washington Wizards
Charlotte Hornets/Bobcats

West A (Pacific Southwest Division)
Los Angeles Lakers
Los Angeles Clippers
Phoenix Suns
San Antonio Spurs

West C (Red River Division)
Dallas Mavericks
Houston Rockets
Oklahoma City Thunder
New Orleans Jazz/Hornets

West D (Northern Division)
Minnesota Timberwolves
Kansas City ..........
Utah Bobcats/Jazz
Denver Nuggets

West D (Pacific Northwest Division)
Sacramento Kings
Golden State Warriors
Portland Trail Blazers
Seattle Sonics

Is it perfect? No. But the NBA is about the money, and having 32 teams split up a little more evenly with a finely-configured schedule and playoff system does help immensely.
 
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I personally can't wait for the expansion into Europe.
 
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East Divison (Beltway) Looks scarey! :chuckles:
 
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Within 10 months, Seattle might have Russell Wilson, the Sonics and legalized marijuana. I'm putting my house on the market.

- Bill Simmons
 
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http://seattletimes.com/html/sports/2020104985_kings11.html

Source: Kings' owners want to keep hand in running NBA team
The family that owns the Sacramento Kings wants to maintain a say in how the team is run if they sell it to Chris Hansen.

By Bob Condotta
Seattle Times staff reporter

The Maloof family will listen to offers to sell the Sacramento Kings, but it might not be willing to walk away from the team entirely — creating a possible snag in the team's rumored move to Seattle.

The Seattle Times learned from an NBA source Thursday that the family that owns the Kings wants to keep a say in how the team is run, even if they sell it to Chris Hansen, who has a deal in place to build a new arena in Seattle if he can buy a team to play in it.

The Maloof family has owned the team since 1998. Brothers Joe and Gavin — the two oldest of the five-member family — have been particularly involved and visible presences in the franchise since day one.

An initial Yahoo! Sports report Wednesday on the possible sale, since confirmed by others, stated that the family would retain a small percentage in the team. But the question now, according to the NBA source, is whether that percentage also would allow the Maloofs some say in how the team is run.

The source said the sale of the team for the Maloofs goes beyond dollars and cents and stressed how important being involved in the NBA has been to the family.

James Ham, who helps run a website devoted to the Kings, said the news was not a surprise given the family's history with the NBA.

George Maloof Sr., father of Joe, Gavin and three others, owned the Houston Rockets when he died of a heart attack at 57. The family sold the team two years later, in 1982.

"They repeatedly said over the years that selling the Houston Rockets was their biggest regret ever because it took them years to get back into the league," Ham said. "They tried multiple times, and it took them years to get back."

The family had long said they might move the team unless they could get a new arena, but they never said they would consider selling it until news broke this week that the family was negotiating with Hansen's group, which also includes Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and members of the Nordstrom family.

The Sacramento Bee quoted a source Thursday as saying the family doesn't necessarily want to sell the team but will listen to offers. Hansen's group is reported to be offering roughly $500 million for the Kings, which would be the most ever paid for an NBA franchise.

The Maloofs, whose business interests have included beer, transportation, gaming and entertainment, have reportedly had financial troubles in recent years, perhaps making them more willing to consider selling the team. They also were unable to get a new arena built in Sacramento and failed in a bid to move the team to Anaheim in 2011.

Negotiations between Hansen's group and the Maloofs reportedly have been ongoing for a week or so, and some reports Wednesday characterized them as almost done. Yahoo! Sports quoted a source as saying it was "first and goal at the one."

Sacramento News 10 reporter Bryan May, however, tweeted that George Maloof Jr. — the fourth-youngest of the family of five — said a deal was not close.

The Sacramento Bee, meanwhile, reported that the family has not had contact with Hansen's group since before Jan. 1 and hasn't received an official offer for the team.

However, the Bee's source was quoted as saying "I fully expect we will see something."

Ham says the family, which also includes brother Phil and sister Adrienne Maloof-Nassif, a star on the reality-TV show "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills," generally makes major decisions as one. A decision on the Kings, though, likely comes down to Joe, Gavin and George.

George Maloof has been regarded as not as emotionally invested in the NBA and more willing to do what is best for the family financially.

"The family dynamic is basically two guys who love the limelight, love to stand on the sidelines and jump up and down and celebrate, and another guy who has never really been into it," Ham said.

The NBA source said that getting out of the league could be difficult for Joe and Gavin Maloof and that some observers might underestimate what it means to them to be franchise owners.

How big of a sticking point that may be in negotiations, though, remains unclear.

Neither Hansen's group nor the NBA has commented on reports of a possible deal.

The NBA has an annual deadline of March 1 for teams to apply for relocation — though that has been extended in the past. Optimally, Hansen's group would have a deal in place by the deadline to apply for relocating the team to Seattle for the 2013-14 season. It would play at KeyArena for two years while the new arena is built.

Plans to build a $490 million arena were approved by the Seattle City Council and the Metropolitan King County Council in October.

Seattle has been without an NBA team since 2008 when the Sonics were moved to Oklahoma City by new owner Clay Bennett.

Hansen has spent the past year laying the groundwork for an arena deal and attempting to buy a team to move to Seattle.

After reports surfaced Wednesday of a possible deal to buy the Kings, Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson said he would attempt to find a local buyer to keep the team there. There was no additional word on those efforts Thursday.

Sorry, Seattle.
 
"Emotional investment" is bull. That family is a financial mess. I have a hard time believing the Maloofs can walk away from $500 million. That's well over what the Kings are worth.
 

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