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The amount of turnovers against the top 2 teams in the West is a bit concerning, also the lack of attempting layups against those teams.

It's a shame he is burdened with that bench at times, they really let the whole team down. Shame his trust in Love was for naught as well.

Tough game to lose.
 
So I can just assume all the plus minus user's will disregard that Stat tonight right?
 
Though overall this wasn't a good game against the Spurs, there were many positives, the biggest being that when the starting lineups went against each other, the Cavs' was a lot better. Love didn't shoot well but he was +26, Kylie was +12, Shump +19, TT +14. As far as extrapolating for the playoffs is concerned, how your starters do is more important than anything. Then the bench came in and it's interesting. If a few FTs were made, the story is entirely. The defense was shitty overall, but crunch time defense was pretty good but once again, our bottom 5 in the league defensive rebounding let us down.

LeBron + the bench units have been our best lineups for the past 2 seasons and the for the first two months of this season. TT or Frye or Moz/LBJ/Shump or Liggins/Dunleavy/Jefferson or Delly. Ever since the addition of Korver, the bench units have been a mess.

Multiple things going on.

1) LeBron is staying in too long during the firs period. He comes out at like the 2 minute mark and change instead of at the 4 minute mark first set by Blatt. He barely rests and then is back with the bench. Lue needs to change this. I know he wants he starters in as long as possible and fears the Big Three-less lineups, but he thinks he can build enough of a lead with them in.

2) We have to realize just how great James has been to carry these lineups to top 3 NET differentials in the NBA. It's been astonishing. Now, Jefferson and Frye have been poor defensively the last month. James has not put in the defensive effort necessary to keep this group humming but has instead opted to coast defensively and try to break the game open with Frye/Korver/Jefferson threes. When they don't go in, the defense isn't making any stops and James isn't going to put in the effort necessary to get them. Dunleavy was actually part of our best lineup (Frye/LBJ/Jefferson/Shump/Dunleavy) because he was playing pretty good defense as I posted here:

http://www.realcavsfans.com/community/index.php?posts/2562754/

3. Last year, James had Delly to run the offense so he could play off the ball some and that helped save some of his energy not to mention the Delly/James pick and roll was deadly.

4. LeBron's turnovers when belaying with the bench especially have been bad and it's all about the handle. He had 99 lost ball turnovers coming into this game. HIS CAREER HIGH in lost ball turnovers for a season was 85 in 2011 in 79 games. On the other hand, he has only 38 bad passes. The fewest he's ever had was 113 in 2008. You see teams adjusting and daring LeBron to score even when he's in the paint (he's getting into the paint much off the bounce better this year even with all the lost ball turnovers) he opts for impossible passes that only he can make. At some point (I'm assuming the playoffs, he'll opt to score.

5. The good news is that Kyrie and Love are playing better together (plus +3.6 per 100) without James.
 
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I am not worried about LeBron's TOs. He usually cleans them off in the play-offs.

As frustrated and irritated I was with his lackadaisical and careless play until late in 4th quarter, it was refreshing to see that LeBron could still turn on, on the defensive end and turn into a defensive juggernaut when we need him to be for few mins. He completely locked down Kawhi when he was on him. I think he can do the same to KD as well if we need it. But obviously, can't do it throughout the game or he will have to be hospitalized after that.

Also, his shots are looking good. Be it from the three or those turn-around Js from the low post. His FT shooting has improved a lot as well. He is shooting around 76% from the FT line in January. He was on 63% in December.
 
This is the LeBron James thread

But you wouldn't know it without the title of the thread

Every single thread is divulging into warrior panic right now just like last year and it's driving me fucking crazy

You don't think the Cavs can beat the Warriors? Cool. Can you contain it to one of the 2 Warriors threads we have. I'm so sick of every single thread turning into 'I don't think we can beat the Warriors'

Pinoycavsfan trust me at this point you've made your point clear. Every single poster on this site knows you think we can't win.
well, they have lost 4 of 5 (incl two potential Finals foes) keep finding new injuries and windhorst (yeah, I know) says there won't be any more additions. I'd say there were good reasons for a healthy does of cynicism. I reallly think they might have serious trouble with lack of size in playoffs unless they add one more big. May not be play, may be injuries, but they are only foul trouble away from having frontcourt issues, particularly against a team that puts Channing in PnR
 
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2) We have to realize just how great James has been to carry these lineups to top 3 NET differentials in the NBA. It's been astonishing. Now, Jefferson and Frye have been poor defensively the last month. James has not put in the defensive effort necessary to keep this group humming but has instead opted to coast defensively and try to break the game open with Frye/Korver/Jefferson threes. When they don't go in, the defense isn't making any stops and James isn't going to put in the effort necessary to get them. Dunleavy was actually part of our best lineup (Frye/LBJ/Jefferson/Shump/Dunleavy) because he was playing pretty good defense as I posted here:

http://www.realcavsfans.com/community/index.php?posts/2562754/

this is money..... spot on imo
 
I really wish the media, or Lue, or teammates would make more out of LeBron's late turnover issues. It's being totally swept under the rug (probably not intentionally).

Going into the Pelicans game tonight, LeBron is averaging 5.2 turnovers per game in January.

In his ENTIRE career, LeBron has only averaged >5.0 turnovers per game for a month ONE time - February of 2015.

I've mentioned it in the past so no need to point out his lack of transition defense off of these turnovers as well. It's non-existant.
 
RCF about to pop off tonight, but this is rather simple. If LeBron stop fucking around, this team will win games. If he would just be a neutral player we would win some of these games. But, for several games now, he has been the worst player on the court, sabotaging any chance this team has at a win. Kyrie tried his absolute hardest to will this team to a win and LeBron just said "nope."

He starts the game playing no defense of any kind and the team follows suit. And the team proceeds to get destroyed.

Hopefully LeBron will tell us when he decides to show up so we can make sure to tune out until then.
 
Why is LeBron playing 44 minutes in this game?
 
Starting with the Christmas game, here are LeBron's turnover totals:

5
0 (didn't play)
8
1
4
5
5
7
4
5
5
6
4
7
6


He's averaging the most turnovers of his career. For the love of God, get someone else in here to handle the ball. At least someone LeBron would be comfortable with.
 

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