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amil99 said:
We're really going to learn alot about these players in the next 2 weeks.

Are Irving and Love really stars/championship level players or overhyped losers? If its the former the team should be in decent shape even without Lebron. The latter...ehh.

We're also gonna learn alot about Blatts ability to coach without Lebron for an extended period of time. Does he go back to the fiery no bullshit Blatt from overseas and lead this team through adversity? Or will he look like a deer in the headlights like he has the last week? His job could be riding on this.

Should be interesting/entertaining to say the least
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This is a good post, but I disagree with Blatt looking like a deer in headlights. I think he did a great job coaching against Milwaukee. He has continually showed the ability to draw up good plays after timeouts without Lebron. Has he been perfect? No. But he does a lot of smart things half the coaches in the league don't do. Like getting 2 for 1's.

Lebron has handcuffed him early and often this year.

My main problem with the Cavs is how slow they play on offense. They should be playing more up tempo and getting more shots per game overall. But, I really thought that was what Blatt tried to do until Lebron took over PG duties and slowed everything down. No one hurts the flow of ball movement more than Lebron, and Blatt's offense is based on the ball having "energy". It's obviously tough because Lebron has had some great success as the facilitator as well. But when the Cavs have looked the best on offense this year is when they shared the ball. When they've looked bad, it's when Lebron has held onto the ball for 12 seconds of every possession. (So much of Love's bad shots/touches are the result of him getting the ball too late in the shot clock, and usually out of position)

If they could all get on the same page offensively and pick up the tempo, then shore up their pick n roll defense, and get a capable big man, the team could really take off. But we wont likely see that until Lebron comes back and that's if he buys back into what Blatt wants.
 
Dan, instruct the Cleveland Clinic courts to order the god-damn cryotherapy chamber. Have them bring LeBron a bottle of bubbly, accompanied by some Cuban cigars imported from Rockafella records.

While you're at it, get two Philippino whooores and tell them to powder his asshole, then go play Gameboy with Brons' kids while he takes a shit. There'll be a reapplication of powder required, Dan. Order the good shit.
 
He's not just a "twitter doctor." He's an actual physician. Now, he hasn't examined LeBron, but what he's talking about isn't exactly BS. LeBron's miles are a huge concern.
 
supermario21 said:
He's not just a "twitter doctor." He's an actual physician. Now, he hasn't examined LeBron, but what he's talking about isn't exactly BS. LeBron's miles are a huge concern.
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I understand he's an actual doctor, but he is not a Cavs doctor, nor is he Lebron's doctor. He has not seen Lebron's MRIs or test results, nor has he examined Lebron or had Lebron describe his symptoms to him. Lebron's miles are a concern, but saying "I'm concerned about cartilage" just starts making people assume that's what it is.

So therefore, he is diagnosing him over Twitter.

Twitter Doctor
 
theSTEREO. said:
I understand he's an actual doctor, but he is not a Cavs doctor, nor is he Lebron's doctor. He has not seen Lebron's MRIs or test results, nor has he examined Lebron or had Lebron describe his symptoms to him.

So therefore, he is diagnosing him over Twitter.

Twitter Doctor
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Doesn't matter. The Cavs doctors see whatever LeBron wants them to see. Just like the last time he had a phantom injury.
 
WorldBoFree said:
This is a good post, but I disagree with Blatt looking like a deer in headlights. I think he did a great job coaching against Milwaukee. He has continually showed the ability to draw up good plays after timeouts without Lebron. Has he been perfect? No. But he does a lot of smart things half the coaches in the league don't do. Like getting 2 for 1's.

Lebron has handcuffed him early and often this year.

My main problem with the Cavs is how slow they play on offense. They should be playing more up tempo and getting more shots per game overall. But, I really thought that was what Blatt tried to do until Lebron took over PG duties and slowed everything down. No one hurts the flow of ball movement more than Lebron, and Blatt's offense is based on the ball having "energy". It's obviously tough because Lebron has had some great success as the facilitator as well. But when the Cavs have looked the best on offense this year is when they shared the ball. When they've looked bad, it's when Lebron has held onto the ball for 12 seconds of every possession. (So much of Love's bad shots/touches are the result of him getting the ball too late in the shot clock, and usually out of position)
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I know this is the current narrative but what you said flies in the face of what happened on the court.

1. Yes we need to play faster but we were playing SLOWER before James took over the point guard duties. We were playing at about 87-88 possessions per game through the Utah game, either the slowest pace in the league at time or second slowest.

2. "When they looked bad it's when James held on to the ball too long."

Yes, he did hold onto the ball often, but we also had the 4th best offense in the league through 30 games, better than the beautiful ball movement offenses of Golden State, San Antonio, and Atlanta. If we accept that nobody hurt the movement on offense more than James then we are saying other than James's ball stopping, the offense was the best in the league because as it is, we were fourth with all that ball stopping. Is that likely? The fact is that James created a lot of the offense that led to the number 4 offense. He hasn't been perfect and he has played below his lofty standards but he was a big part of why the offense was good in the first place and the only reason we have a winning record because the defense is awful. I really don't see how the biggest issue someone can have with this team is how we ran the offense when our offense was 4th in the league and the defense is bottom 5.

A big on defense and some athleticism will help and I'm sure complete buy in from everyone will help, too, but we have statistics about what happened on court which refute a lot of what people are saying.

With bad said, I like Blatt and feel he will be successful sooner or later.
 
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priceFTW said:
I know this is the current narrative but what you said flies in the face of what happened on the court.

1. Yes we need to play faster but we were playing SLOWER before James took over the point guard duties. We were playing at about 87-88 possessions per game through the Utah game, either the slowest pace in the league at time or second slowest.

2. "When they looked bad it's when James held on to the ball too long."

Yes, he did hold onto the ball often, but we also had the 4th best offense in the league through 30 games, better than the beautiful ball movement offenses of Golden State, San Antonio, and Atlanta. If we accept that nobody hurt the movement on offense more than James then we are saying other than James's ball stopping, the offense was the best in the league because as it is, we were fourth with all that ball stopping. Is that likely? The fact is that James created a lot of the offense that led to the number 4 offense. He hasn't been perfect and he has played below his lofty standards but he was a big part of why the offense was good in the first place and the only reason we have a winning record because the defense is awful. I really don't see how the biggest issue someone can have with this team is how we ran the offense when our offense was 4th in the league and the defense is bottom 5.

A big on defense and some athleticism will help and I'm sure complete buy in from everyone will help, too, but we have statistics about what happened on court which refute a lot of what people are saying.

With bad said, I like Blatt and feel he will be successful sooner or later.
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Again, I agree with the majority of your post, but I think two things need to be pointed out. We are dealing with fairly small sample sizes, especially the sample size of games before Lebron took over the facilitator role, which I agree has been a net positive in the short term, but if it kills ball movement and undermines the coaches scheme, I think it could be a net negative long term.

Secondly, I would argue that much of the really bad losses, which have killed moral as of late, have been because Lebron was lagging on defense, AND holding the ball. Sure, hes a huge net positive, but if we're talking about building team cohesion and building trust in the coach and overall philosophy, he has NOT helped Blatt's cause very much. And that's especially in regards to the defense. (of which I still think Posey, Lue, and Drew should be mostly accountable for early on)

It was obvious that Lebron pushed for them to use the old hard show, trapping defense that he used in Miami early in the year, and it was also obvious the Cavs do not have even close to the kind of athletic roster needed for that kind of scheme.

My point is that, when you think of the greater picture, Blatt has really had his hands tied in many ways from the beginning. If Lebron has such a "genius" basketball mind, he wouldn't be continually playing uncreative basketball, implementing schemes that don't fit the roster, and showing a lack of an eye for talent. (See: Joe Harris is going to be a big part of this team this year, Jawad Williams is great, Shabazz Napier is my guy, go Johnny Football, and on and on).

Everything trickles down from the top, and the top is Lebron. But it really should trickle down from the coach, especially when the star player isn't as smart as people are lead to believe.
 
Man Called X said:
okay @bob2the2nd Disagree all you want, but there's a history of the team doing this shit.

Where there is smoke, there is fire.

Get off his nuts.
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maybe you meant something else but it sounds like you are the one all over his nuts

Man Called X said:
Doesn't matter. The Cavs doctors see whatever LeBron wants them to see. Just like the last time he had a phantom injury.
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but the cavs doctors are and should do their god damn job. i dont give a shit what lebron says.
 
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