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He can't fully play lebron like 11-12 lebron simply because he's not being used the same.

Man, he looks like a human freight train in those Miami clips. Made KG look like a stick figure. LeBron was huge compared to what he looks like now.
 
Those Miami team had an achilles heel. it was exposed first by Dallas then by San Antonio and to a smaller scale Indiana.
The Heats Dominance of the east was aided by Boston Aging out, Chicago injuring out and the rest of the East overhauling their rosters as the East became rebuild central.

This years east is by far superior as a field than anything Miami had to deal with.

Moamo took advantage of an inexperienced OKC and beat a superior Spurs team that essentially choked the series away.

This season has been about preparing for the playoffs and ultimately that is hwere this team will be judged.
At mid point games wise the Cavs were 21-20 and have gone 28-4 since.

Cavs have 9 games left with no back to backs
If you wanna get a good idea how good the Cavs starting lineup has been

The tiny URL for your query is:

http://bkref.com/tiny/L5Qch


James has alot to do with that.
 
Those Miami team had an achilles heel. it was exposed first by Dallas then by San Antonio and to a smaller scale Indiana.
The Heats Dominance of the east was aided by Boston Aging out, Chicago injuring out and the rest of the East overhauling their rosters as the East became rebuild central.

This years east is by far superior as a field than anything Miami had to deal with.

Moamo took advantage of an inexperienced OKC and beat a superior Spurs team that essentially choked the series away.

This season has been about preparing for the playoffs and ultimately that is hwere this team will be judged.
At mid point games wise the Cavs were 21-20 and have gone 28-4 since.

Cavs have 9 games left with no back to backs
If you wanna get a good idea how good the Cavs starting lineup has been

The tiny URL for your query is:

http://bkref.com/tiny/L5Qch


James has alot to do with that.
Miami had no bench their first season. And has injury problems big time in 2012 and 2013. Bosh missed most of the second round and eastern conference finals. And in the 2013 playoffs Wade averaged 16ppg. Bosh averaged around 12ppg and was routinely destroyed by Hibbert and Duncan. And the OKC was inexperienced excuse doesn't fly. They were in the 2011 WCF the year before and arguably played the champs better than other team. Sry, but you can't make excuses for everyone but Miami. They had their fair share of problems.
 
Those Miami team had an achilles heel. it was exposed first by Dallas then by San Antonio and to a smaller scale Indiana.
The Heats Dominance of the east was aided by Boston Aging out, Chicago injuring out and the rest of the East overhauling their rosters as the East became rebuild central.

Have you ever looked at the complete roster of the first year of the big 3 in Miami? Carlos Arroyo was a starter:chuckle: That roster sucked outside of the Big 3. After the first year, Wade was never healthy again and Bosh was injured for a good chunk of the 2nd and 3rd rounds of 2012. This is why lebron had to do so much heavy lifting.

This years east is by far superior as a field than anything Miami had to deal with.

2010 Bulls would destroy this years Hawks IMO and so would 2010-2012 celtics.

Moamo took advantage of an inexperienced OKC and beat a superior Spurs team that essentially choked the series away.

Can't call inexperience with OKC considering they schooled the Sours that year. OKC lost because Lebron owns Durant. Going into the Finals, everyone had Thunder beating the Heat.
 
The biggest thing that has changed from Miami to here, and even from here initially, is that he isn't the 270 wrecking ball he used to be.

LeBron is going through his Jordan phase, knowing his game has to change if he wants to continue playing at a high level. LeBron cannot be the bull he was or he'll flame out by age 32 and never be the same. He has to adapt and play a different style. No more posting LeBron and letting him be a ball of knives through the paint. Don't get me wrong, he's still REALLY good at that, but it's not what he can do all the time anymore.

This season was an adjustment season for LeBron, getting comfortable in his new body. Next year, when he doesn't have to transform, he can focus more on his game and what he has to do to become a better perimeter focused player.
 
Exactly bball. You can't make excuses for everyone but Miami. For some reason people like to act like it was always smooth sailing for them. They won two titles and played in 4 Finals with extremely flawed teams. 2011 was the last year Wade was in his prime. He hasd his moments in the 2012 playoffs (2nd round,Finals), but that was it. For the talk of Bosh being underrated, he tended to be a ghost in the playoffs. He was huge against Boston in that game 7 in 2012, the Finals against OKC, and he had that huge rebound against San Antonio. But he was also HORRIBLE against the Pacers and Spurs. One of the biggest reasons the Spurs took Miami to 7 games was because Bosh got absolutely lit up like a Christmas tree by Duncan. And he scored a scorching ZERO points in the biggest game of his career up to that point. LeBron with a team of Chamlers, Birdman, Miller, and Allen was the one that brought the Heat out of that hole in the 4th quarter of game 6 in 2013. People always for get that.
 
This years east is by far superior as a field than anything Miami had to deal with.

I would really disagree with this. Pretty much everything has broke right for us. The top of the conference has one Finals quality team (Atlanta) and they are a finesse team who isn't playing very good basketball right now. There have been injuries to Rose, George and Bosh.....significantly lessening teams who would be contenders with them.

The Bulls (#3) are banged up and it is still uncertain if Rose returns. Toronto (#4) is a complete mess, as is Washington (#5). Down the stretch, all the top teams in the East are treading water, Atlanta is (5-5) in their last 10, Chicago is (5-5), Toronto is (5-5) and Washington is (4-6). During that stretch Cleveland has won @SAS, @MEM (blowout) and @DAL (blowout).

In 3 of the 4 years Miami went to the finals, they easily had a tougher road than we do this season and did it with a team who had far less balance / depth. The only year you might have an argument is 2013, when the Knicks were the #2. Even so, that was the year Miami caught a healthy Indiana team (with some bad match ups) and got taken to 7. I realistically don't think a team in this years Eastern conference playoffs is capable of pushing us to 7 games.

I really just can't imagine an easier path than this season. Guess we'll see.
 
I would really disagree with this. Pretty much everything has broke right for us. The top of the conference has one Finals quality team (Atlanta) and they are a finesse team who isn't playing very good basketball right now.

The Bulls (#3) are banged up and it is still uncertain if Rose returns. Toronto (#4) is a complete mess, as is Washington (#5). Down the stretch, all the top teams in the East are treading water, Atlanta is (5-5) in their last 10, Chicago is (5-5), Toronto is (5-5) and Washington is (4-6). During that stretch Cleveland has won @SAS, @MEM (blowout) and @DAL (blowout).

In 3 of the 4 years Miami went to the finals, they easily had a tougher road than we do this season and did it with a team who had far less balance / depth. The only year you might have an argument is 2013, when the Knicks were the #2. Even so, that was the year Miami caught a healthy Indiana team (with some bad match ups) and got taken to 7. I realistically don't think a team in this years Eastern conference playoffs is capable if pushing us to 7 games.

I really just can't imagine an easier path than this season. Guess we'll see.

So much of this. 11' Bulls, 13' or 14' Pacers, 12' Celtics, etc. All tough teams Miami had to beat. The toughest team we will play is a regular season machine Atlanta team that has no elite player. I mean the fact people are worrying about playing Miami in the first round shows how different the East has changed the last few years. And the good news is that there is no 2014 Spurs team to deal with if/when we do make the Finals.
 
Because I don't think a guy who actively tried to get his coach fired for the first third of the season and phoned in a ton of games deserves to win the MVP. It's that simple.

Except there's no evidence he ever tried to do that except baseless speculation by people who never forgave him for leaving and wanted him to deliver us the moon overnight.

It's funny that Lebron James, one of the most powerful guys in the NBA who is almost always able to make things happen when he wants to, is so totally incompetent at 'getting coaches fired'. Maybe it's because he has a short attention span with it -- after a couple of weeks of 'trying to get them fired' he always seems to turn around and propel them to the top of the league. Lack of focus and effort on his part!
 
Except there's no evidence he ever tried to do that except baseless speculation by people who never forgave him for leaving and wanted him to deliver us the moon overnight.

Some of us have access to information that you don't. And the idea that we weren't able to forgive him is ridiculous, especially since it has no relevance to this argument. LeBron tried to get Blatt fired. It happened. The front office told him no and made some trades to improve the team. At that point, LeBron started buying in and playing harder.
 
Like I said earlier, I really doubt LeBron went to the front office and told them to fire Blatt directly. I am assuming he didn't want him and would have preferred a more experience coach. But there is a difference between not wanting someone and then pushing for him to be fired. Eitherway, its all in the past really. What matters is, the team is set now!
 
Except there's no evidence he ever tried to do that except baseless speculation by people who never forgave him for leaving and wanted him to deliver us the moon overnight.

It's funny that Lebron James, one of the most powerful guys in the NBA who is almost always able to make things happen when he wants to, is so totally incompetent at 'getting coaches fired'. Maybe it's because he has a short attention span with it -- after a couple of weeks of 'trying to get them fired' he always seems to turn around and propel them to the top of the league. Lack of focus and effort on his part!

Pure ignorant bullshit. The entire post.
 
I don't know if he "phoned in" those games. He wasn't exactly right in terms of health, and sure, I think he was at times either pouting, or making a resistance stance against Blatt that was very unprofessional. So LB definitely deserves accountability.

There's no denying LB didn't handle himself well at all to start the year. And it's not exactly a "secret" he made it known just about to everyone he didn't want Blatt to be the coach of this team.

And if anyone knows anything about LB, when there's something he does like, or doesn't, he will try to orchestrate it to get it done his way.

But gladly, he's changed his tune, got healthy, we made the trades we did, and the rest is history.
 

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