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Jordan would mop the floor with LeBron 1v1.. Stop it.

Not sure why this even matters or is a discussion though.

There's a few guys in the NBA that could probably beat LeBron 1 on 1..... maybe a dozen more formers who could do the same. Doesn't mean they're better 5 on 5 players.

1 on 1 removes one of LeBron's most skilled attributes (his passing). Ditto for someone like Magic. I'd still take both guys over just about anyone when building a team.
 
Not sure why this even matters or is a discussion though.

There's a few guys in the NBA that could probably beat LeBron 1 on 1.....doesn't mean they're better 5 on 5 players.

1 on 1 removes one of LeBron's most skilled attributes (his passing). Ditto for someone like Magic. I'd still take both guys over just about anyone when building a team.

I totally agree...

I think one of those guys that could beat LeBron today is Kyrie Irving...

(drops mic, runs out of thread).
 
To say he'd mop the floor with him is crazy talk. Its the same sort of basketball jesus Jordan worship that people are getting tired of. Maybe Jordan would win in a 1v1, in fact probably. But I'd take LeBron in a 5v5 any day and I'd also say LeBron would have to be about as tough or tougher than anyone Jordan ever faced. To suggest that he would mop the floor with perhaps the second greatest player is simply ludicrous.
 
To say he'd mop the floor with him is crazy talk. Its the same sort of basketball jesus Jordan worship that people are getting tired of. Maybe Jordan would win in a 1v1, in fact probably. But I'd take LeBron in a 5v5 any day and I'd also say LeBron would have to be about as tough or tougher than anyone Jordan ever faced. To suggest that he would mop the floor with perhaps the second greatest player is simply ludicrous.

You defeated your own argument in this one paragraph..

The question is 1v1 not 5v5, and I don't think anyone would agree with you on taking LeBron over Jordan to start a team.

Sure you take ball-dominant LeBron because you think he's going to make his teammates better and I guess that means LeBron runs the point?

I take Magic Johnson to run the point. Magic/Jordan/Pippen would be an unstoppable non-James backcourt, with 3 players all able to facilitate and move the ball.

You're overrating LeBron and underrating Jordan, and that's a very hard thing to do.
 
One on one is about size. Irving would have near 0 percent chance of stopping lebron each possession.
Take an elite perimeter player like Chris paul and make him defend a role player center like mozgov and see what happens. Chris Paul will miss some of his outside shots but mozgov would make every single basket over him.
 
Lebron is one of the best passers AND one of the best scorers of all time. Not sure why we are acting like lebron is Steve Nash. Jordan can stop a posting up lebron. Heck he couldn't even stop a posting up magic in the 91 finals which is why they switched pippen onto magic after the game 1 loss instead.
 
One on one is about size. Irving would have near 0 percent chance of stopping lebron each possession.
Take an elite perimeter player like Chris paul and make him defend a role player center like mozgov and see what happens. Chris Paul will miss some of his outside shots but mozgov would make every single basket over him.

I was being facetious... But I don't think it's as simple as you're saying either.
 
Lebron is one of the best passers AND one of the best scorers of all time. Not sure why we are acting like lebron is Steve Nash.

Who said he was Nash?

Jordan can stop a posting up lebron. Heck he couldn't even stop a posting up magic in the 91 finals which is why they switched pippen onto magic after the game 1 loss instead.

I'm just amazed some of you think LeBron could even keep up with Jordan... And to act like LeBron has this great post-up game and would go to it to score on Jordan makes no sense.

Honestly, this conversation is silly, but some of you guys really don't remember how good Jordan was. The guy was unstoppable, and this was against far superior and grittier defenses than what we see in the NBA, let alone anything that James has ever demonstrated.

I'll leave it at that.
 
I always hear about how much tougher defenses were when Jordan was winning titles. Obviously it's tough to compare / contrast, but just to give reference, 15 teams in the NBA gave up less than 100 points per game this year.

90-91: 2
91-92: 3
92-93: 3
95-96: 15
96-97: 23
97-98: 24


I mean were defenses really better in the late 90's than earlier in the decade? Or did offenses just get worse?

I'd also like to see how Jordan's career would have developed in a league where zone defenses were legal.

As far as one on one vs LeBron, i think it's silly to think LeBron would get dusted by Jordan. He's physically superior to Jordan in every way. We're talking about a 6'8", 260/270 pound guy who ran a 4.3 / 4.4 40 at his athletic peak. They'd give each other fits defensively. Jordan would out-finesse him, but LeBron would bully him. It's a lot closer than people think.
 
Wasn't Skip saying current though? Which is asinine.

I think prime Jordan wins, but it's very close. He'd post up LeBron and just keep shooting the same jumper over and over to get in LeBron's head and maintain possession. And if LeBron ended up blocking one or two, Jordan would have no problem crossing him up and getting into the lane for some layups and short fades.

LeBron would bull his way into the lane, but I think Jordan could strip him enough times to win.

If they played to 11 five times, I think Jordan would win 3-2 and most games would be within 2-3 points of each other.
 

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