Let it all out. The Cavaliers Rant Thread

[CavsFan005]

If I were Griffin I would trade Love at the deadline. There are just far too many holes in the roster to try and make up for even if we have 2 years to do. We need a backup pg, starting sg, better bench and better bigs.

The biggest mistake was trying to build a team identical to the Miami Heat. That was 3 top 10 players in the game at the time, including 2 of the top FIVE players in the game. You can't match that salary wise without the perfect personnel.

The Spurs proved last year you need top to bottom dominance, a deep bench and coaching. I thought last year if you traded the Heat's supporting cast around Lebron for ours then he would have been better off. I imagine he saw the same thing, a possible loaded bench with 3 playmaking guards that would take the pressure off him. It seems like our front office just tried to throw together a big 3 even when they saw it get ran through by a team built the right way. Why make the same mistake?

 

[Rich]

If I were Griffin I would trade Love at the deadline. There are just far too many holes in the roster to try and make up for even if we have 2 years to do. We need a backup pg, starting sg, better bench and better bigs.

The biggest mistake was trying to build a team identical to the Miami Heat. That was 3 top 10 players in the game at the time, including 2 of the top FIVE players in the game. You can't match that salary wise without the perfect personnel.

The Spurs proved last year you need top to bottom dominance, a deep bench and coaching. I thought last year if you traded the Heat's supporting cast around Lebron for ours then he would have been better off. I imagine he saw the same thing, a possible loaded bench with 3 playmaking guards that would take the pressure off him. It seems like our front office just tried to throw together a big 3 even when they saw it get ran through by a team built the right way. Why make the same mistake?

So, you think they actually traded for Love w/o asking LeBron his feelings about it?

Forget if the trade was the right move (it was), you're saying LBJ saw the potential of playing on this so-called deep team (so deep it couldn't crack 35 wins), was lured here by it, and then was NOT consulted about trading away some of that depth in order to get Love?

I doubt it.

 

[clevelandrox23]

Our front office had all the leverage in the world with LeBron after he wrote that letter and committed to the Cavs. No way for his legacy, family safety, and own personal sanity could he leave again. What I don't understand is if your Dan Gilbert, a rich and powerful owner, now with LeBron James, Kyrie Irving, Andrew Wiggins etc. on your roster why did he not seek a GM with loads of experience? Wouldn't most GMs die for an opportunity like that? Instead we gave the keys to the castle to some clown with no previous experience, that makes perfect sense. Perhaps Griffin is merely Gilbert's puppet and he is running the franchise, if that's the case then he is truly a moron.

 

[pl4tinum]

LeBron let everyone know that Blatt has zero control over him whatsoever tonight. It appears that was his goal.

 

[CavsFan005]

So, you think they actually traded for Love w/o asking LeBron his feelings about it?

Forget if the trade was the right move (it was), you're saying LBJ saw the potential of playing on this so-called deep team (so deep it couldn't crack 35 wins), was lured here by it, and then was NOT consulted about trading away some of that depth in order to get Love?

I doubt it.

It could of been deeper then the Heats squad last year. Who did the big 3 play with last year? Lewis? Cole? That team was an absolute joke around them. I envisioned us having Marion, Jack, Waiters and possibly even Zeller or Miles off the bench. I don't know if it was a culture issue but we gutted the entire team.

The other problem is letting Lebron play assistant GM. Riley wouldn't let Lebrons side show clown agents even near the arena. Good decision

 

[CardiacCavs]

To me, the most difficult problem to solve is our defensive issues. It is becoming clear that is a personnel problem, which is much more difficult to solve. It is becoming more clear that a change will have to be made to improve the defense. I don't know what it will take but simply holding pat at this moment and hoping the defense will improve is not going to cut it. Let's hope some other teams are feeling generous.

If you've got three offensive players the caliber of LBJ, love and Irving, you need to surround them with defensive players. If they can shoot, even better, but get us some players who play defense with pride.

 

[cavsfever]

Lebron is not the problem on this team. He's reacting to the problems on this team, maybe sort of immaturely at times, but the truth is that Lebron is the only one who has shown the capability of bringing us winning basketball this year. This roster is clearly flawed. For those Blatt fanboys suddenly transformed into Cavaliers followers who think that Coach Blatt has a double super secret game plan in his desk that would take us to the championship if only Lebron James would stop sabotaging it -- please stop. This is the NBA, it's not Maccabi Tel Aviv and the overseas rejects and losers league. If you want to coach in the NBA you have to inspire your players to execute a game plan that will win consistently against the best athletes and players in the world. I'm not seeing that happening here -- although frankly the front office may not have given him a roster that can pull it off.

This is starting to look disturbingly like Lebron's last time through Cleveland, with an athletically diminished version of Lebron who can't conceal the flaws through sheer superman heroics. Blaming him for not being that Lebron any more is a mistake.

 

[wremy]

It could of been deeper then the Heats squad last year. Who did the big 3 play with last year? Lewis? Cole? That team was an absolute joke around them. I envisioned us having Marion, Jack, Waiters and possibly even Zeller or Miles off the bench. I don't know if it was a culture issue but we gutted the entire team.

The other problem is letting Lebron play assistant GM. Riley wouldn't let Lebrons side show clown agents even near the arena. Good decision

you envisioned jack or zeller?.. come on dude we still had Marion,Dion,TT,Miller,and a guy like Delly.. we need a big..depth wasn't a problem

 

[RebelBballownzu]

it seems like some sports cities are just cursed cleveland, san diego, phoenix come to mind right away, all had teams in the last 10 years that should have won a title or multiple titles. at least buffalo went to 3 straight super bowls.

 

[supermario21]

I know it ticks lots of people off but the way some of us Love trade opponents got dismissed on here (and still do) makes us want to keep harping on it. That trade set this franchise back. I want us to fire Griffin, he hasn't done anything right since coming here other than arguably drafting Wiggins, and even then I remember worrying he was going to pick Jabari.

 

[OptimusPrime]

Buffalo went to 4 straight Super Bowls.

Anyway, depth always looks like a problem when only one guy has the ball.

 

[KI4MVP]

They just look lazy. How does a team with that much talent lose that badly in front of their home fans, especially against a team like the Pistons? Whatever happened to playing with some pride? There is NO excuse to come out like that. If they don't care, why should the fans? We have seen this story too many times this year. What a joke

They came out and jumped to a 32-17 lead and later were up 43-32 before the wheels inexplicably fell off.

 

[Rich]

I know it ticks lots of people off but the way some of us Love trade opponents got dismissed on here (and still do) makes us want to keep harping on it. That trade set this franchise back. I want us to fire Griffin, he hasn't done anything right since coming here other than arguably drafting Wiggins, and even then I remember worrying he was going to pick Jabari.

Well brother, if you're gonna judge that trade based on 30 games and declare victory, I'll certainly do the same in regards to your preference for Wiggins over Parker.

And it would be easier to take the criticism seriously if Wiggins was, you know, good. He's been bad this year. So has Bennett. Both of them have less trade value now than they had in the summer.

 

[CavsFan005]

Our front office had all the leverage in the world with LeBron after he wrote that letter and committed to the Cavs. No way for his legacy, family safety, and own personal sanity could he leave again. What I don't understand is if your Dan Gilbert, a rich and powerful owner, now with LeBron James, Kyrie Irving, Andrew Wiggins etc. on your roster why did he not seek a GM with loads of experience? Wouldn't most GMs die for an opportunity like that? Instead we gave the keys to the castle to some clown with no previous experience, that makes perfect sense. Perhaps Griffin is merely Gilbert's puppet and he is running the franchise, if that's the case then he is truly a moron.

Its the same shit I saw almost 10 years ago. Ferry handcuffed us with some bs contracts, Griffin pissed through 4 years worth of draft picks and trade assets in about a week. At least Ferry got Shaq, Mo Williams, and Jamison for nothing. It wasn't enuff but its likely better then Griffin is going to do.

you envisioned jack or zeller?.. come on dude we still had Marion,Dion,TT,Miller,and a guy like Delly.. we need a big..depth wasn't a problem

The stats show otherwise. We are last in the NBA in bench scoring. or close to last now that Waiters has been on a role

 

[MH32246]

Lebron going out there being all world won't make us a better team it will just mask or inefficiencies and they will come to rear its ugly head in the playoffs. We don't guard anybody honestly we are undersized and not athletic in the paint with our bigs. Blatt isn't making adjustments when teams go on runs how many times has Blatt called a timeout and got us an easy basket or how many times have we taking advantage of mis matches.