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Lucy: "I don't want to go to Disney World anymore"

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  1. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Back in 2002

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    [video=youtube_share;4ynmeCWoVuM]http://youtu.be/4ynmeCWoVuM[/video]

    Don't wake up mundanes. Just wanted to celebrate America's finest teaching a little brat what this country is all about and what kind of freedom she can look forward to for the rest of her life.
     
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  2. Jack Brickman

    Jack Brickman Preview Team

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    Smart kid. Everyone knows Disney is overrated. Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure are where it's at.
     
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  3. A Squared

    A Squared Don't just stare at it..

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    Another 9/11 or a little girl crying, hmm lets see which is worse.
     
  4. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Back in 2002

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    Exactly. That girl was a threat to us all. Terrorist scum. And not to mention the government manhandling and molesting children is the only way to make sure 9/11 never happens again. If they hate us for our freedom then the only answer is to give up our freedom.
     
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  5. Maximus

    Maximus BANNED Staff Member

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    The mom made it worse that it should have been. Yeah, it sucks your kids in a wheel chair. But, if she had just consented to a patdown it would have taken 10 seconds, the kid could have gotten "Lambey" back and they'd be on their way to Disney. Instead she says "I have a rule that i don't allow anyone to touch my daughter without being able to record it???". She was looking for trouble and escalated things...and the TSA has rules too. Everyone knows that they are subejct to search before flying. You start making exceptions for people in wheelchairs....then terrorists will start using wheelchairs. You stop searching kids...then terrorists will start using kids.

    If you don't want to be searched, then don't freaking fly. You don't have a right to not be searched and fly in an airplane. It's about keeping us safe, not about stripping us of "rights".
     
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    OptimusPrime Back in 2002

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    Precisely. Why won't people learn to just submit to their rulers? They know best.
     
  7. Jack Brickman

    Jack Brickman Preview Team

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    You know, the last time we got lax with our airline security standards, something kind of bad happened to us. You may remember it.
     
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    Maximus BANNED Staff Member

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    He thinks our "rulers" were behind that one too...
     
  9. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Back in 2002

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    I don't remember anything that had to do with airline security standards. I do find it hilarious that you think your heroes up there roughing up a 3 year old girl with spina bifida are keeping anyone safe.
     
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    OptimusPrime Back in 2002

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    Nonsense. They committed suicide to kill us because of our wealth and freedom. Now that both of those are gone the world is full of peace and harmony.
     
  11. Chardon

    Chardon Hall of Farmer

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    People hide drugs on their kids all the time.
     
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  12. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Back in 2002

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    That's terrible. What if people smoked those drugs? You would be in real danger then.
     
  13. The Oi

    The Oi Or Also Schtick

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    Optimus jumping the shark finally.
     
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  14. Pyro

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    I would totally demolish this argument, but just save me the trouble and back down. Right now.

    Or search for "Illuminations: Reflections of Earth" on YouTube.
     
  15. southernflyer

    southernflyer Situational Stopper

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    Unfortunately since I have to deal with TSehhhh every day at work, this is a routine event.

    Common sense would dictate to put Lamby through the x-ray machine and make a game of it with the kid, when the stuffed animal is cleared, hand it back to the kid. I will say the agents in Orlando are better than most airports due to the sheer volume of families they see, especially handicapped children due to Give Kids the World events.

    If there are any serious threats via planes or an airport, it will be via TSehhhh agents who are recruited that do not get screened as they enter through the checkpoints. This is all an expensive, time-consuming dog and pony show. Notice all those backscanners being scrapped because they couldn't develop software to correctly identify threats without showing the whole human image? That was a few billion of wasted money to some well-connected contractor.

    The agents have gone so far as to go into non-public areas "screening and checking". They wanted to look around the offices one day. I told them their jurisdiction is to securethe sterile areas of the airport, not my office in a non-secure area of the airport.

    As an aside, I see more non-happy families at Disney World than anywhere else. The cost-time reward between flights, hotels, meals, planning to watch shows, character breakfasts, princess/pirate make up sessions and seeing all the characters let alone the actual attractions has driven families to go from open to close with crank kids and tired parents, just to get their money's worth. It used to be go as the park opens, go around for a few hours, go to the hotel and take a nap and break and come back in the afternoon. Now it is 12 hours of heat exhaustion, kids who aren't used to walking that much, parents who aren't used to being around each other that much, and $18.99 light up Mickey balloons.
     
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    Flying isn't a fundamental right, just like driving isn't.

    In order to drive you need to get a license and insurance. If you don't have those you get a fine and/or put in jail. Is this an encroachment on my freedom? No. Is it an encroachment on my freedom that I have to stop at stop signs and stop lights? Why can't I just go through them? Safety bro.

    In order to enter an airport you have to prescribe to certain rules. The effectiveness of these rules is not for debate here. They are put in place, and are readily available online. If you are ignorant of the rules, that is on the consumer (flier) not the TSA. If this lady didn't want to abide by the well posted and readily available rules, she didn't have to fly. They could have driven. If they don't have a drivers license or insurance, they could have taken a bus trip, a cab, or they could have walked. The government isn't preventing them from going to Disneyland. Just from flying if the rules that are put in place aren't followed.

    I am failing to see what "freedoms" were encroached upon here? The airport and airplanes are businesses and have the right of refusal just like any other business.
     
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  17. Jack Brickman

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    Fuck you. Universal and Islands of Adventure shits all over Disney, and I refuse to watch your crappy video.
     
  18. southernflyer

    southernflyer Situational Stopper

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    Free movement within the nation is a right. Unless you want to say that only counts by walking, on horseback or by steamboat because that is what was readily available when the Constitution was signed.
     
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    1. There's nothing in the Constitution about free movement within the nation.

    2. Even if there was, I'm pretty sure it would only count walking, as all other forms of movement would require you to pay someone else for the privilege of traveling.

    3. When you pay a company to transfer you, you agree to abide by their rules. If you disobey, you can be ejected or arrested.
     
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  20. Chardon

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    You just tried to use Freedom of movement? Freedom of movement is basically the right to enter/exit a state without any hassle. Nobody is stopping them from driving/walking/running/taking a bus etc... As long as they follow the rules. If you fly on an airline, you follow their rules.
     
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