Markieff Morris Wants Out of Phoenix

[Lyuokdea]

View: https://twitter.com/Keefmorris/status/639603859535622144

 

[Lyuokdea]

Also this

http://en.yibada.com/articles/55390...s-kings-potential-suitors-for-all-star-sg.htm

I know yibada is a stupid site -- but just as an idea: S&T Tristan to Toronto at Max, plus a first round pick to Toronto for Derozan, then another first rounder + Trade Exception for Morris to replace Thompson. Even if we are resigning Derozan at the max next year, we're still saving money compared to Tristan at the max this year.

You can also do it as a three way trade, and then you don't even have to use the trade exemption.

 

[gourimoko]

Also this

http://en.yibada.com/articles/55390...s-kings-potential-suitors-for-all-star-sg.htm

I know yibada is a stupid site -- but just as an idea: S&T Tristan to Toronto at Max, plus a first round pick to Toronto for Derozan, then another first rounder + Trade Exception for Morris to replace Thompson. Even if we are resigning Derozan at the max next year, we're still saving money compared to Tristan at the max this year.

You can also do it as a three way trade, and then you don't even have to use the trade exemption.

Doubt this would get done, but would do this trade in a fucking heartbeat if possible.

 

[godfather]

Yeah, that's like way too good to be true kind of stuff. But that would be an absolute no-brainer for us, but horrible for the Raptors. Even with a first rounder.

They scoffed at paying DeRozan the max, but would pay Tristan one? Must be a Canadian thing....

 

[Rich]

I so hope the Cavs don't get taken with all the bullshit coming out of Toronto. Ujiri just gave Carroll 15 million. He would go from being a well respected GM to an absolute idiot in a matter of seconds if he followed up that move with maxing out Tristan Thompson. Does he actually WANT to get out of the 1st round in the next decade or nah?

It makes all sorts of sense for GMs to pretend they'd throw tons of money at Thompson right now when nothing is at stake. It makes the Cavs sweat and ultimately could cost us cap space if we fall for it. But if/when push comes to shove I'm gonna bank on a guy that has been considered a smart GM not making Thompson and Carroll the two highest paid players on his roster.

So with that said, I think Toronto balks at any such deal and that all the smoke signals coming from them is just to mess with the Cavs.

 

[The Oi]

Markieff would be an excellent replacement for Tristan. He does everything better than him except rebounding.

If it was the difference between retaining Tristan and paying Tristan the max or getting Keef locked up to a more reasonable contract...I'd go Keef all day.

He can score from all over the court, and while he's a terrible three point shooter, wouldn't need to be out on the perimeter much anyways. He quietly put up an efficient 15ppg last year and made 76% of his FTs. He's also a solid defender.

You lose rebounding and get a player who's two years older, but get better everywhere else.

Wouldn't think twice.

Question is...how would they get him?

 

[Lyuokdea]

I also don't think it could work - but I do think both Derozan and Morris could be obtained for the right price. I think we are just one young asset short of being able to do it.

 

[Lyuokdea]

Markieff would be an excellent replacement for Tristan. He does everything better than him except rebounding.

If it was the difference between retaining Tristan and paying Tristan the max or getting Keef locked up to a more reasonable contract...I'd go Keef all day.

He can score from all over the court, and while he's a terrible three point shooter, wouldn't need to be out on the perimeter much anyways. He quietly put up an efficient 15ppg last year and made 76% of his FTs. He's also a solid defender.

You lose rebounding and get a player who's two years older, but get better everywhere else.

Wouldn't think twice.

Question is...how would they get him?

If the Morris relationship with the suns keeps getting worse, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get him for our two first round picks (which I think we can do if we take the restriction off the first round pick we're sending out this year), and then take Morris into our cap space.

No team wants a player who is openly trying to get kicked off the team.

 

[The Oi]

If the Morris relationship with the suns keeps getting worse, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get him for our two first round picks (which I think we can do if we take the restriction off the first round pick we're sending out this year), and then take Morris into our cap space.

No team wants a player who is openly trying to get kicked off the team.

One thing you can say about Tristan is that character is not an issue with him. He's a good kid.

Would Morris act the same way on a contender?

 

[Lyuokdea]

One thing you can say about Tristan is that character is not an issue with him. He's a good kid.

Would Morris act the same way on a contender?

The flip side of this is that Morris is not the only player to have problems with the Phoenix Suns.

 

[MirORich]

Markieff would be an excellent replacement for Tristan. He does everything better than him except rebounding.

If it was the difference between retaining Tristan and paying Tristan the max or getting Keef locked up to a more reasonable contract...I'd go Keef all day.

He can score from all over the court, and while he's a terrible three point shooter, wouldn't need to be out on the perimeter much anyways. He quietly put up an efficient 15ppg last year and made 76% of his FTs. He's also a solid defender.

You lose rebounding and get a player who's two years older, but get better everywhere else.

Wouldn't think twice.

Question is...how would they get him?

Where are his minutes coming from? He can not play small ball center near as well as TT. The things he does on offense are all almost exclusively done better by Kevin Love.

Based on everything he's exhibited attitude wise as a pro, you think Morris is oing to buy in and be content at 12-15 minutes per game?

Love the player, don't see the fit. At all.

 

[Rich]

A small ball line-up with Morris at C would be devastating. Not like Thompson is back there protecting the rim when he's playing center. Might give up something on defense, but we'd be terrifying on offense with that line-up.

 

[Lyuokdea]

Should we revisit this? Given Morris's current value, it seems possible we could get him for the trade exception....

Of course you don't want to add a discontent to a championship caliber team, especially when you aren't going to get him a ton of minutes..... and that's $32M of Gilbert's money...

Also on the downside, he's not much of a passer and is sort of an offensive black hole -- does he actually make the offense more efficient?

OTOH, a small-ball lineup of Irving/Shumpert/LBJ/Love/Morris is probably a better matchup against the Warriors small-ball lineup than a Cavs lineup featuring Thompson. You can't let a big help off of Morris and clog the middle (the same way you can do with Thompson). Also, he's got a great 3PT shot from the top of the key, which allows him to be on the court at the same time as our smaller guards.

Also, if you can do a rehab job on Morris (make him look like more of a team player) - then his contract makes him pretty valuable in the future.

 

[Green Lantern]

Where are his minutes coming from? He can not play small ball center near as well as TT. The things he does on offense are all almost exclusively done better by Kevin Love.

Based on everything he's exhibited attitude wise as a pro, you think Morris is oing to buy in and be content at 12-15 minutes per game?

Love the player, don't see the fit. At all.

Yep..however (aside from attitude..maybe just a change in scenery is needed) that length can come in handy when we play opponents who have another mobile big on their bench..or someone to smack Mr.Smiles(Draymond Green) around a bit when they throw him at center.

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

Morris would also give us something else we desperately lack...toughness.

I just think him and JR together would be an imminent combustion.