Matthew Dellavedova

[thunder_down_under]

I watch the games...I see with my own basketball educated eyes...he is a weakness...he isn't a minutes guy on a title team

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He is shooting over 40% from 3; he brings energy to defense; he doesn't need the ball in his hands to contribute; he has high BB IQ; he has no ego so actually listens to his coach; he costs us less than $1 mill, and he has an above average assists to turnover ratio...and that is not worth 5-12 minutes per game?? Really?? Of course he has his weaknesses...so does Kyrie (it is my ball and I aint going to give it to no-one); Bron (I am so shit hot that I will decide when I want to play)...and all the rest of them. It is not about what weaknesses a player has but how the positives fit into the team needs...just consider the Spurs to see what that looks like

 

[math-yoo]

The problem with this thinking is the lack of contextual awareness: the context is not in the stats and efficiency is a fickle thing.

I wasn't actually talking about efficiency as a stat, I was talking about efficiency as a player, on the court. Playing within his abilities. When running the offense for longer periods of time, his play suffers.

 

[King James 23]

The spurs have 4 hall of famers

 

[NeilR]

Hmmm...HOF players. Yes in their prime they were very very good. That was quite some years ago though wasn't it. Last year's championship was a masterpiece of resource management. A team made up of many active pieces each with a role or two. The Stars got rest, the opposition did not and Spurs won some improbable games because of it. You could see how effective it was against Miami. The cavs are a small market team too and do not have the funds to stack their roster, so they need to get better use from the roster they have.

 

[NeilR]

I watch the games...I see with my own basketball educated eyes...he is a weakness...he isn't a minutes guy on a title team

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I call bollocks on this post. Blatt is clearly using him and for a reason, so you are either out of sync with those that know or you are right and this is not a title team

 

[kovanovich]

This issue I have with some of the latter ideas in this thread is the amount of vision used. Very few teams can run an 8 man rotation in the regular season and be in good shape when you get to the playoffs. You need to exercise and game-train the bench to some depth so that the main players can get rest in closer games against lesser opposition. The upside is that if/when they are needed come crunch time or playoffs then the 9-12 guys can contribute. If you need evidence of how this works look at the Spurs - another small market team that punches above its weight

I'm hopeful that whoever the 15th player is will actually be the 9th player in the rotation (or 10th if Delly remains in the top 9). And I say this regardless of whether the 15th player is a big or a guard, though I am firmly of the opinion that the team needs another big.

Of course, it's also possible that Griffin makes a small deal and two players are added to the roster.

 

[blazenmp]

The cavs are a small market team too and do not have the funds to stack their roster, so they need to get better use from the roster they have.

The Cavs have the funds and an owner who seems willing to spend whatever money is needed. There is a cap and he still has to abide by its rules. As far as market size, I disagree, the arena can only hold so much wherever it is at and media and marketing sales are among the best in the nation!

Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding your thoughts.

 

[NeilR]

The small market effects are not solely franchise focused, sure the Cavs can fill the stadium and they get the Jersey sales, but if that was the only issue why did LBJ go to Miami? The off court earning is simply much greater in some places than others, this is the influential market for some players. To get them to play elsewhere you have to pay them more than market value at times.
I'm concerned about the Cavs, not only how they play but how they relate to each other. Look at how Atlanta has turned it around as model of change of culture.
Anyway we are getting off topic with Delly - the team is a complex entity ... mind you some here say that because they've seen him dribble up the floor with his eyes down then he's done in the NBA ... Clearly Blatt sees a role for him. The team needs role players to scaffold the stars and also to take their place when they fail - the Cavs need more depth and that takes time.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I watch the games...I see with my own basketball educated eyes...he is a weakness...he isn't a minutes guy on a title team

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I think he's a guy who could get five to ten minutes a game on a title team. The problem is that we've had to routinely play him significantly more minutes because we've been dealing with injuries. Once Shumpert returns, Delly should settle back into his role as the ninth or tenth guy.

 

[Kypus]

I want to see how he does paired with JR Smith off the bench. From what I've seen the past 2 games (LAC CHI), he still seems like a good fit for the rotation.

 

[King of Swords]

I think that Delly can still be a good contributor. When he plays 10-15 minutes, he generally does a good job. Beyond that, his limitations tend to get exposed.

In spot situations, he provides decent defense while allowing the offense to flow. He can hit the open 3 and has surprising decent touch with mid-range floaters and runners, so he's not someone defenses can totally ignore.

That being said, I think Jordan Farmar is a clear upgrade that the Cavs should pursue as a backup PG.

 

[All4One1ForAll]

8 assists for the most undervalued guy on this team right now. You all act like this kid shouldn't even be in the league. He's a valuable contributor who comes off the bench and keeps the ball moving and plays his heart out. All the while making like 800K per year.

 

[supermario21]

8 assists for the most undervalued guy on this team right now. You all act like this kid shouldn't even be in the league. He's a valuable contributor who comes off the bench and keeps the ball moving and plays his heart out. All the while making like 800K per year.

And many of those 8 assists came with the scrubs in. He runs the offense well when he has guys around him he can work with. Our additions have put Delly back in a position where he can thrive. He was never going to be a 30 minute a night player, but this, definitely.

 

[The Process God]

8 assists for the most undervalued guy on this team right now. You all act like this kid shouldn't even be in the league. He's a valuable contributor who comes off the bench and keeps the ball moving and plays his heart out. All the while making like 800K per year.

The poor thing. I'm wondering if that's enough to keep him off the streets.

We'll see Delly's true colors come playoff time. It'll be interesting to see whether or not he will be able to keep up when players go at him with their hardest.

 

[All4One1ForAll]

The poor thing. I'm wondering if that's enough to keep him off the streets.

We'll see Delly's true colors come playoff time. It'll be interesting to see whether or not he will be able to keep up when players go at him with their hardest.

I'm not trying to sympathize with him because he's making that kind of money. I'm saying that he's a valuable player on a (relatively) very cheap deal.

And you could use the old "we'll see how he does in the playoffs" with Kyrie, K Love, and Tristan, too.