Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

[The Voice]

Yes, that is my prediction. He will be a perennial all star imo. Lots of sf make all star games with not so great 3 point shots. The key to his development will be to have a decent mid range game and to further develop his many strengths.

Typically every draft has 3-6 all star level players, one who is almost mvp level and 1 or 2 others who are perennial. If I had to guess now, MKG would be one that would make numerous all star games before the end of his career.

That's not a problem, since Irving is already our MVP guy. We need the all star talent around him now. This immediately puts Gee on the bench or at the SG position though.

 

[Pavlovic3Ball]

We need a legit C

MKG + Lamb + Irving would be great, but that doesn't fix our problems down low. Of course we could look to FA as well.

I actually agree with you. And I like Melo more than most. Im hoping one of them slips to the 2nd round, but I don't think thats likely.

 

[The Oi]

I said this in another thread, but I really like the idea of taking Doron Lamb at 24, if we take MKG. I think that 1-3 if really balanced.

I think Doron Lamb would be a really nice pick if he was there at 24. I could see him being a Nick Young type, possibly. Nick Young without Kyrie Irving and Davis/Beal/MKG is nothing special. But if you put him together with some combination of Kyrie and one of those other guys...he could be a great complimentary piece.

Wouldn't be shocked if Doron one day ended up as good a pro as Barnes. Not willing to guarantee it, because Barnes certainly has a better build. But Doron is a really amazing shooter and next to some other guys that could open up the floor

 

[Lee]

That's not a problem, since Irving is already our MVP guy. We need the all star talent around him now. This immediately puts Gee on the bench or at the SG position though.

Still havent decided if i think MKG or Beal is the better prospect though. If we get unlucky and draft 5th or so, Barnes is a nice fit too, but definitely a notch below imo of MKG and Beal. I think MKG and Beal can both make 5+ all star games, Barnes might make 1 or 2.

Andy yes, I 100% agree Kyrie is a future MVP. I think we are seeing the beginning of Rose's downfall. Back now knee? Ouch. But this could mean Kyrie will be competing with CP3 for the best pg in the league title in 3 years or so which instantly should make you a MVP candidate. (Nash, Rose, etc)

 

[Lee]

I think Doron Lamb would be a really nice pick if he was there at 24. I could see him being a Nick Young type, possibly. Nick Young without Kyrie Irving and Davis/Beal/MKG is nothing special. But if you put him together with some combination of Kyrie and one of those other guys...he could be a great complimentary piece.

Wouldn't be shocked if Doron one day ended up as good a pro as Barnes. Not willing to guarantee it, because Barnes certainly has a better build. But Doron is a really amazing shooter and next to some other guys that could open up the floor

I think Deron ends up moving up draft boards. Part of me wants to take a shot on Fab Melo though. I dont know why, everything about him screams potential bust. (less athletic version of Drummond with all the disappearance issues) , but taking that risk with he 24th overall pick seems smarter than lets say the 3rd pick.

 

[Pioneer10]

Probably not safe to mention this but MKG reminds of Lebron on defense after he got into his head that he should try on that end of the floor.

I watched him guard Beal and had flashback to how Mike Brown would use Lebron on small players (thinking Billups/Hamilton, Evans, etc.). When you have that kind of size and strength plus the quickness to stay in front of shorter players, the game almost becomes like watching a schoolyard match between an older and younger brother. Like last year where Rose just couldn't get it done with Lebron on him, Beal had an equally difficult time when MKG was on him.

*Note Beal did much better the second game against him and I'm also a big Beal guy.

 

[BimboColesHair]

I kind of like the sane version of Artest comparison, Jig...people tend to forget that Artest was a near 20+ ppg, 6 rpg, 3 apg player when he was with Indy and Sacto in his prime, to go along with his 4 All-Defensive team awards and his Defensive Player of the Year Award...obviously I think MKG has more potential then Artest ever had, but I like the comparison, especially for the defensive tenacity.

 

[Lee]

I kind of like the sane version of Artest comparison, Jig...people tend to forget that Artest was a near 20+ ppg, 6 rpg, 3 apg player when he was with Indy and Sacto in his prime, to go along with his 4 All-Defensive team awards and his Defensive Player of the Year Award...obviously I think MKG has more potential then Artest ever had, but I like the comparison, especially for the defensive tenacity.

Artest has always been a volume shooter at less than 42%. MKG shot almost 50% in college. MKG is smart enough to not take threes. That is the huge difference between MKG and artest. Artest was never efficeint enough to score over 14 points a game without hurting his team.

 

[CleveRocks]

Don't confuse Ron's personality defects with his basketball ability. He was always a brutal defender, and he could score. I think he had as much ability as Paul Pierce for example. Calling him a volume shooter is just not capturing his value on the court. If he were not a head case I would have gladly had him on the Lebron teams.

 

[rabman_gold]

Again, this post has a different feel with a different player:

The Artest comparison seems pretty deadly, especially if he has absolutely no worries but the drive. I saw that in the limited time on TV and here on the board. He'll fit in perfectly with Irving. He also knows how to run a team pretty well from my observation, so he'll be like a point forward on the floor when Irving has to sit or for attack measures.

But still.. to have a 40+% chance of having a true 1st or 2nd star (based on what I've seen and heard). 60% chance of having at least a superior 2nd option but more to the lines of the prime 2004 Pistons. And finally a 95% chance of having a true threat to take pressure off of Kyrie with one pick alone (although we have at least 5 different cards up our sleeves). And not in the disastrous way that Antawn attempted to do so.

The only thing stopping us from getting Davis (Prime KG), Beal (Prime Ray), MKG (Superior Artest), Robinson (Rahim), or Barnes (Prime Elliot) and having success is health. Once we get one of those guys, we should either attempt to get 1 more star through draft or trade (this year or next) or get at least 3 above average role players who can do things with and without the ball and can score. Additionally, another 2-3 role players who can fill in any necessary gaps as well (for this post with MKG).

<table><tbody><tr><th>String</th><th>Center</th><th>Power Forward</th><th>Small Forward</th><th>Shooting Guard</th><th>Point Guard</th></tr> <tr><td>Starters</td><td>Anderson Varejao</td><td>(Stretch Forward)</td><td>Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
</td><td>(Shooter)</td><td>Kyrie Irving</td></tr> <tr><td>Backups</td><td>(Offensive Big)</td><td>Tristan Thompson</td><td>(Shooter)</td><td>Alonzo Gee</td><td>Donald Sloan</td></tr> <tr><td>Thirds</td><td>(Defensive Big)</td><td>(Shooting Forward)</td><td>(Multifaceted)</td><td>(Multifaceted)</td><td>(Relief)</td></tr></tbody></table>
I heard finding a shooting forward is pretty easy nowadays, but it would be nice to defend with at least 10% more effort than Jamison. So getting a good defender who can create with the ball would be equally important as well at the 3. Otherwise, we could attempt to get a threat at center if Tristan ever develops his inner Ben Wallace within 2-3 years. But otherwise, this type of chart looks good for pairing with MKG. It's up to him to see if he can become the second coming of Pippen or a more polished Gerald Wallace (kinda makes you worried about concussions though...).

 

[mAo_mAo]

Probably not safe to mention this but MKG reminds of Lebron on defense after he got into his head that he should try on that end of the floor.

I watched him guard Beal and had flashback to how Mike Brown would use Lebron on small players (thinking Billups/Hamilton, Evans, etc.). When you have that kind of size and strength plus the quickness to stay in front of shorter players, the game almost becomes like watching a schoolyard match between an older and younger brother. Like last year where Rose just couldn't get it done with Lebron on him, Beal had an equally difficult time when MKG was on him.

*Note Beal did much better the second game against him and I'm also a big Beal guy.

And that is why I want Beal. He can score even when guarded by arguably the best wing defender in college basketball. Too bad he had too much boneheaded teammates. I also like how Beal can guard bigger guys than him, that can show that he will not be a liability when switching.

 

[Biw]

I think Doron Lamb would be a really nice pick if he was there at 24. I could see him being a Nick Young type, possibly. Nick Young without Kyrie Irving and Davis/Beal/MKG is nothing special. But if you put him together with some combination of Kyrie and one of those other guys...he could be a great complimentary piece.

Wouldn't be shocked if Doron one day ended up as good a pro as Barnes. Not willing to guarantee it, because Barnes certainly has a better build. But Doron is a really amazing shooter and next to some other guys that could open up the floor

Pussy.

 

[The Process God]

Again, this post has a different feel with a different player:

The Artest comparison seems pretty deadly, especially if he has absolutely no worries but the drive. I saw that in the limited time on TV and here on the board. He'll fit in perfectly with Irving. He also knows how to run a team pretty well from my observation, so he'll be like a point forward on the floor when Irving has to sit or for attack measures.

But still.. to have a 40+% chance of having a true 1st or 2nd star (based on what I've seen and heard). 60% chance of having at least a superior 2nd option but more to the lines of the prime 2004 Pistons. And finally a 95% chance of having a true threat to take pressure off of Kyrie with one pick alone (although we have at least 5 different cards up our sleeves). And not in the disastrous way that Antawn attempted to do so.

The only thing stopping us from getting Davis (Prime KG), Beal (Prime Ray), MKG (Superior Artest), Robinson (Rahim), or Barnes (Prime Elliot) and having success is health. Once we get one of those guys, we should either attempt to get 1 more star through draft or trade (this year or next) or get at least 3 above average role players who can do things with and without the ball and can score. Additionally, another 2-3 role players who can fill in any necessary gaps as well (for this post with Beal).

<table><tbody><tr><th>String</th><th>Center</th><th>Power Forward</th><th>Small Forward</th><th>Shooting Guard</th><th>Point Guard</th></tr> <tr><td>Starters</td><td>Anderson Varejao</td><td>(Stretch Forward)</td><td>Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
</td><td>(Shooter)</td><td>Kyrie Irving</td></tr> <tr><td>Backups</td><td>(Offensive Big)</td><td>Tristan Thompson</td><td>(Shooter)</td><td>Alonzo Gee</td><td>Donald Sloan</td></tr> <tr><td>Thirds</td><td>(Defensive Big)</td><td>(Shooting Forward)</td><td>(Multifaceted)</td><td>(Multifaceted)</td><td>(Relief)</td></tr></tbody></table>
I heard finding a shooting forward is pretty easy nowadays, but it would be nice to defend with at least 10% more effort than Jamison. So getting a good defender who can create with the ball would be equally important as well at the 3. Otherwise, we could attempt to get a threat at center if Tristan ever develops his inner Ben Wallace within 2-3 years. But otherwise, this type of chart looks good for pairing with Beal. It's up to him to see if he can become the second coming of Pippen or a more polished Gerald Wallace (kinda makes you worried about concussions though...).

In my personal opinion, we need to tank one more year to get another great draft pick first and foremost. This can be accomplished primarily by trading Varejao. Trading Varejao will not only allow us to better align the center position's age with Kyrie's and our other future players so that they can grow together and peak together, but we can have another great draft pick through tanking and yet another draft pick through trading Varejao. Basically, we could get a top 5 pick (via tanking) and a top 10 pick if Varejao is moved in situation A, or just a single pick in the 12-18 range if we keep Varejao. I think that this team will be better off in the LONG RUN by trading Varejao.

I vote we fleece Portland or New Orleans for a pick and go all out for one small forward and one shooting guard between Beal, Lamb, Barnes, and MKG. MKG and Beal would be the most ideal, but it would be awfully hard to move up that far. Perhaps MKG and Lamb might be the best we could do, and Lamb still could end up being better than Beal. Draft Doron Lamb in the second round and we have our starting and backups for SG and SF solidified for the future between MKG, Alonzo Gee, Lamb, and, well, Lamb.

 

[mAo_mAo]

Tenacious G!!!!

 

[The Voice]

Still havent decided if i think MKG or Beal is the better prospect though. If we get unlucky and draft 5th or so, Barnes is a nice fit too, but definitely a notch below imo of MKG and Beal. I think MKG and Beal can both make 5+ all star games, Barnes might make 1 or 2.

Andy yes, I 100% agree Kyrie is a future MVP. I think we are seeing the beginning of Rose's downfall. Back now knee? Ouch. But this could mean Kyrie will be competing with CP3 for the best pg in the league title in 3 years or so which instantly should make you a MVP candidate. (Nash, Rose, etc)

No chance Beal falls to 5?