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Mike Malone Fired (replaced by Corbin)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It’s not it’s 5 on 5 for rebounds now anyway… Generally, I’d say it’s about 3 on 3 under the hoop</p>&mdash; BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) <a href="View: https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/544576898131443712
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BTW, in the early days of basketball, this was how teams played. There would be a defender, a cherry picker, and 3 guys who played in middle</p>&mdash; BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) <a href="View: https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/544567324204740608
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I don't care what Dan did in the past.

Nothing will ever compare to hearing that the owner made a call to play a 4 on 5 defense so you can cherry pick easy baskets. The basis for his brilliant idea, his son's youth basketball league.

Because 6 year olds vs the top basketball league in the world are the same thing.

It was his daughter's 12 year old team... :chuckle: Utterly absurd to think that this would translate to the NBA.

Off topic, but there was a clip about this during a 60 minutes segment about Malcolm Gladwell i saw awhile back. I can't seem to embed it, but i think some of you might enjoy it...especially those that feel like underdogs or have disabilities. MG is a quirky nerd, but makes some great points. Love a lot of things he writes.
Here's a link to the video...take 10 minutes and watch the whole thing. IF you just want to see the part about the Kings owner, Ranadive, it starts at about the 2:00 mark and finishes about 4:50.

Malcolm Gladwell: Power of the Underdog
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/malcolm-gladwell-the-power-of-the-underdog/
 
Coach Nick is a pretty respected guy so I thought I would post his thoughts; simple as that.
"coach nick". lol.

his coaching credentials:
Coach Nick also led the boys basketball team at Birmingham High School in Van Nuys for 3 seasons, where he ran the triangle offense.

experience with a bunch of teenagers at a lolbad level of basketball; sounds like he is right up vivek's alley!

perhaps there's a reason you had to turn to him to find someone actually defending this nonsense.
 
"coach nick". lol.

his coaching credentials:


experience with a bunch of teenagers at a lolbad level of basketball; sounds like he is right up vivek's alley!

perhaps there's a reason you had to turn to him to find someone actually defending this nonsense.
He's a guy that is very knowledgeable about the game and it's history. He doesn't have some professional coaching pedigree, but he is still a guy that a lot of people like. This wasn't some trump card I pulled out. Just a guy that people like who appreciates thinking outside the box; nothing wrong with that.

A lot of people posts videos of him here; so I thought I would show his input.
 
"coach nick". lol.

his coaching credentials:


experience with a bunch of teenagers at a lolbad level of basketball; sounds like he is right up vivek's alley!

perhaps there's a reason you had to turn to him to find someone actually defending this nonsense.


It's pretty ignorant to dismiss Nick, considering he breaks down basketball on film and explains it to fans better than most.

That being said, I don't think this works.

Also, I don't think anyone is "defending" this "nonsense". They are simply trying to find an alternative view to the popular opinion. In all likelihood, it fails miserably, but it should be interesting to see actually happen nonetheless.
 
It's pretty ignorant to dismiss Nick, considering he breaks down basketball on film and explains it to fans better than most.

That being said, I don't think this works.

Also, I don't think anyone is "defending" this "nonsense". They are simply trying to find an alternative view to the popular opinion. In all likelihood, it fails miserably, but it should be interesting to see actually happen nonetheless.
i have no qualms about dismissing someone trying to justify this kind of setup.

trying to go against the grain and think about how something could actually work is fine. but in this case, a few moments thought should lead to "ok wait, there is no way in hell this thing actually works."

attempting to innovate is great. nothing wrong with thinking outside the box. it's just this specific example is among the worst ideas to come up with and should be dismissed pretty darn quickly (which, again, is perhaps why seemingly nobody else is arguing for it).
 
innovation is great.

the idea of 5 on 4 is probably the dumbest idea in the world. Even if it works, you can literally stop it by going 4 on 4.

while shrinking the floor, you have to rely on some of the world's best basketball players to miss consistently for multiple stretches in a game. then you have to pray you get the rebound. then pray you can get it to the cherrypicker in time for the defense not to catch up.

it's pretty much the dumbest idea of all time. and if the owner seriously fired the coach because he wanted someone to run this, then yes, he should be mocked.
 
Gilbet has had his issues for sure, but at least he's proven that he's willing to spend whatever to takes to win a championship. What the hell has anyone in the Sacramento organization proven?

Willing to take unnecessary huge gambles
 
innovation is great.

the idea of 5 on 4 is probably the dumbest idea in the world. Even if it works, you can literally stop it by going 4 on 4.

while shrinking the floor, you have to rely on some of the world's best basketball players to miss consistently for multiple stretches in a game. then you have to pray you get the rebound. then pray you can get it to the cherrypicker in time for the defense not to catch up.

it's pretty much the dumbest idea of all time. and if the owner seriously fired the coach because he wanted someone to run this, then yes, he should be mocked.

This is where you are mistaken. The wall of hands takes the cake.

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I have thought of a play which will revolutionize the game of basketball as we know it. I call it... the WALL OF HANDS.
All 5 defensive players surround the inbounder, and he is helpless! He will never inbound it now! Violation city, only one team need ever possess the ball!!

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1297984&sid=5e40e22dae91379ab857c80c43c4d85e
 
Malone is definitely a well groomed member the old boys club of NBA coaches, so he could have done any thing short of Sandusky and some voices would still defend him. That said, he seemed like a good coach that brought a lot of energy to the job but he was definitely doomed to fail. When ownership puts you on notice, and then dings you for playing your stars too much, you never really had a chance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-do...kings-and-coach-michael-malone-175201188.html

Michael Malone had been pining for a backup point guard, but Sacramento Kings management had a different idea for their coach a year ago: Royce White. Here was the beginning of the end for this doomed partnership, a disagreement that widened the gulf between them.

White was out of shape, had no interest in playing basketball – which had been clear when the Houston Rockets released him. He had been awful in the Development League, a malingerer, and done nothing to deserve a call-up to the Kings.

"Pretty soon, they're telling [Malone]: Why aren't you putting him in the games?" one organizational source told Yahoo Sports. "That's when it really started to get bad between him and the guys upstairs."

General manager Pete D'Alessandro had to be the messenger to Malone on several unpopular directives, but there was long a sense he was often carrying out the will of his owner, Vivek Ranadive. Management goes beyond the owner and GM too, including influential consultant Chris Mullin. Too many voices, too little common ground.

D'Alessandro didn't hire Malone, the owner did. The GM hiring came two weeks later in 2013, and that was a rookie mistake for the owner. D'Alessandro and Malone had no history together, no trust and, ultimately, no chance together.

After Malone's first season, there were discussions about letting him go. Those died down, but it was clear Malone would start this season on notice, and he did. Management didn't believe in Chris Jent as his top assistant, and went out on its own and interviewed two ex-head coaches, Alvin Gentry and Kurt Rambis, for the staff.

Malone suspected they were trying to hire his eventual successor, and pushed to get ex-Utah Jazz coach Tyrone Corbin hired in the job. Corbin's the interim coach now, and had been loyal to the end for Malone.

The front office-coach relationship became increasingly strained through the Las Vegas summer league in July, especially once Ranadive and D'Alessandro made a play to trade for Detroit forward Josh Smith, sources said. The owner told people outside the franchise that, no, his coach didn't want Smith, but Ranadive didn't care. He wanted Smith's talent, and it was on Malone to make it work.

Most of the coaching staff struggled to believe Smith could fit with DeMarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay, and management differed. Talks with the Pistons shut down quickly, because Stan Van Gundy didn't want to make the proposed deals, sources said.

"The Smith situation caused everyone to take sides: Management against coaches, coaches against management," a source told Yahoo Sports. "Things only got worse."

The hard feelings lingered. Malone traveled to the World Cup of Basketball in Spain for a week in August, spending time with Cousins and Gay on Team USA. He had been building closer relationships with them, and part of that translated into a strong training camp and a solid start to the season. Once Cousins went down, the Kings lost seven of nine games to drop to 11-13, and the organization had its chance.

All around the organization, everyone agrees: The Kings were waiting for this opportunity, and pounced with the losing streak. "They should've done this in the summer, and brought in the coach and style that they wanted," one league official close to D'Alessandro and Malone told Yahoo Sports.

Before the Kings hired him as head coach, Malone had a reputation for a volatile temper and personality. In recent years, that cost Malone opportunities to be considered for head-coaching jobs elsewhere. As his two seasons as a Golden State assistant pressed on, some GMs refused to even interview Malone for head-coaching openings. Malone knew it, and worked to change his disposition and perception.

He had grown in the Kings job, worked to curb those shortcomings and built a strong bond and trust within his locker room. Malone was a major reason Gay signed a contract extension to stay in Sacramento, and played a significant role in Cousins' development on and off the court. Malone leaves Sacramento with an increased respect around the league, a chance to recycle as a head coach again.

As one rival general manager said late Sunday night, "How is Cousins having viral meningitis Malone's fault? With [Malone] gone, that's one less well-prepared team to worry about now."
In the end, this was a doomed partnership – whatever the franchise's record this season, whatever happened. Management expects to let Corbin coach the term of the season, but who knows if the Kings will get uneasy and hire George Karl sooner.

Karl is D'Alessandro's old coach with the Nuggets, and the clear frontrunner to become the Kings next head coach. Karl has tried to get himself involved in almost every possible vacancy in the league – where there are openings, and where there were simply vulnerable coaches. Karl wants to break Don Nelson's record for career victories, and needs to be back on a bench soon to have a chance.

How Karl would deal with Ranadive will be fascinating, too. The owner played the part of a fantasy league owner, treating the Kings like a science experiment. He shared tactical experiences with Malone about coaching his child's youth team, and pressed him to consider playing four-on-five defense, leaking out a defender for cherry-picking baskets. Some semblance of that strategy is expected to be employed with Corbin now, a source told Yahoo Sports.

The Kings are constructed around a powerhouse post player, Cousins. They aren't built to play fast, but this is ownership's mantra. The Kings are playing a version of the fast-break game with their Reno affiliate in the D-League, and it's a window into the owner's futuristic vision for the Kings.
For now, the Kings owe Michael Malone $4 million-plus on the way out, and an explanation to a confounded fan base on who they are now, and what they're trying to become. Ranadive had been celebrated as the owner responsible for saving the Kings in Sacramento, and disposing of the dysfunctional culture of the Maloof ownership group.

Well, the Kings are still in Sacramento, but so is the dysfunction. Michael Malone isn't a perfect coach, but he never stood a chance in this climate. That's on the owner, and how he operates this franchise. Eventually, he'll learn. Most do. For now, the biggest changes Vivek Ranadive needs to make aren't with the coach's style, but his own.​
 
Any chance we'll see Chris Jent back in Cleveland?

What's the status of he and LeBron's relationship? I thought Bron was still working with Jent in Miami; or did Jent already go to OSU at that point?

Who is our shooting coach now anyways?
 

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