Mike Pettine

[Frank Stallone]

Fucking phenomenal write up by Tom Reed. Well informed and did his research.

Make this man the beat writer.

Nah, research? He wouldn't fit in.

 

[Soda]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Pretty impressive &gt;&gt; RT <a href="https://twitter.com/RavensInsider">@RavensInsider</a> John Harbaugh says he looked closely at 30 or more people, college and pro</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/statuses/427899271480762369">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Impressive for the Ravens to look at 30+ guys, but pathetic and desperate if you're the Browns. Got it.

 

[AZ_]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Pretty impressive >> RT <a href="https://twitter.com/RavensInsider">@RavensInsider</a> John Harbaugh says he looked closely at 30 or more people, college and pro</p>— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/statuses/427899271480762369">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Impressive for the Ravens to look at 30+ guys, but pathetic and desperate if you're the Browns. Got it.

How many removed themselves from consideration for the Ravens job?

Asking for a friend.

 

[The Oi]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Pretty impressive >> RT <a href="https://twitter.com/RavensInsider">@RavensInsider</a> John Harbaugh says he looked closely at 30 or more people, college and pro</p>— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/statuses/427899271480762369">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Impressive for the Ravens to look at 30+ guys, but pathetic and desperate if you're the Browns. Got it.

Are you really still pushing this?

I mean...you have absolutely lost and you're still rocking this...

 

[Soda]

Are you really still pushing this?

I mean...you have absolutely lost and you're still rocking this...

:chuckles: Ok, Jigo, you win. You and b00bie are geniuses. Now to site my post from another thread:

People like to come around here to say who will be bad, what won't work or who won't come to Cleveland. Here's the thing: most chances taken in the NFL, especially by the Browns in their downtrodden state, don't work out. Most players drafted don't justify the pick.

People around here want credit for predicting misfortunes and failed attempts at doing whatever.. In actuality, these folks' predictions are pretty much like asking for kudos for predicting a sunny day in San Diego during a drought. Most of us are hoping for rain and trying to get out of the drought...

Its to fill the ego, like a man beating his wife to prove to himself that he's macho.

 

[Jack Brickman]

The important thing is that we got the guy we wanted.


Well, we got a guy.


A guy who looks like Stone Cold.

 

[Soda]

How many removed themselves from consideration for the Ravens job?

Asking for a friend.

Removing from consideration = complete pathetic failure of an attempt to hire.

How close am I?

 

[The Oi]

I'm a genius for sure but that's not relevant here. Nobody needs to be a genius to decipher what was wrong/disappointing/embarrassing about the Browns head coaching search.

If you're still not willing to admit what those problems were...sorry dude.

And comparing the Browns to Harbaugh doesn't make sense for a plethora of reasons. And you know what they are without me going through the list.

As for taking credit when negative predictions are correct...yeah, I want it. When you've got someone fighting you over what seems to be a logical viewpoint, they deserve to be reminded when they're wrong.

That compares in no way to the mentality behind beating a wife. You and the Browns aren't someone I care tremendously about, who I'm sexually attracted to and who make a huge amount of difference in my life. The Browns are more comparable to a turd wrapped up in a Snickers package and you're the guy who tells me to keep eating it.

 

[AZ_]

Removing from consideration = complete pathetic failure of an attempt to hire.

How close am I?

Like McDaniels, who they called again before hiring Pettine?

Or Gase, who turned them down basically on spec?

I mean lets just step away from the fact that the two scenarios are different entirely. One involves an established head coach replacing an offensive coordinator, the other is a hapless front office firing their guy and unintentionally having to expand the field because your top options turned you down.

Your narrative was a complete failure, as Jigo said. I can't believe you're still pushing it like the wide search was their intention throughout.

 

[Soda]

Like McDaniels, who they called again before hiring Pettine?

Or Gase, who turned them down basically on spec?

I mean lets just step away from the fact that the two scenarios are different entirely. One involves an established head coach replacing an offensive coordinator (with a sub.500 career record), the other is a hapless front office firing their guy and unintentionally having to expand the field because your top options turned you down.

Your narrative was a complete failure, as Jigo said. I can't believe you're still pushing it like the wide search was their intention throughout.

I don't know if a wide search was their intent or not. Personally, I don't think Albert Breer or other guys on Twitter know either. I think they are fed stuff from their sources, people like Bob LaMonte. So, do I know that it's true? No, but I HATE people who try to act like they have all the answers. Which is pretty much what you and Jigs are doing. And that's pure garbage. And I will not sit here and feed the ego of a few online experts.

Assumptions made from assumptions tweeted: McDaniels, who they called again before hiring Pettine?, Or Gase, who turned them down basically on spec?, unintentionally having to expand the field because your top options turned you down.

 

[AZ_]

I don't know if a wide search was their intent or not. Personally, I don't think Albert Breer or other guys on Twitter know either. I think they are fed stuff from their sources, people like Bob LaMonte. So, do I know that it's true? No, but I HATE people who try to act like they have all the answers. Which is pretty much what you and Jigs are doing. And that's pure garbage. And I will not sit here and feed the ego of a few online experts.

Sure you will, when they tell you what you want to hear or fits the sunshiny agenda you've been pushing. As soon as the information about Alec Scheiner emailing the staff, you were the one of the first people on here trying to claim it debunked the thought there was any disarray whatsoever regarding the coaching search.

Like yourself, I'm just going by what was reported, and it was reported widely, then drawing perfectly logical conclusions that just about any objective person can make. They could not even deny Pettine was not their first choice in the introductory presser, but they are (and I am) excited to see what the guy has.

It doesn't mean I totally have to block out the debacle that was the coaching search, as it's painfully evident there were multiple failures in communication along the way. Painfully obvious that the front office was unable to sell the job to Josh McDaniels or to Adam Gase's agent. Who knows who else they were rebuffed by on the way.

All we can do now is hope this debacle ended up with them hiring a pretty good coach to bail them out.

 

[The Oi]

All the answers? No.

The answer to whether the Browns made the wrong hire just one year ago after being turned down by their top choices, fired the coach one year afterwards, were turned down by their top choices during this year's coaching search, were said to have been actively searching for a new coach a couple games into the season, are looked down upon by other front offices and roundly criticized by national and local media regarding the search itself...not to mention coming off of having another shitty team...

Yeah, I'm fairly confident about that one.

Anyways...I'm done with this one. It's been handled and if you can't see it and don't like my take and approach to when I'm proven right...too bad.

 

[Soda]

Sure you will, when they tell you what you want to hear or fits the sunshiny agenda you've been pushing. As soon as the information about Alec Scheiner emailing the staff, you were the one of the first people on here trying to claim it debunked the thought there was any disarray whatsoever regarding the coaching search.

Like yourself, I'm just going by what was reported, and it was reported widely, then drawing perfectly logical conclusions that just about any objective person can make. They could not even deny Pettine was not their first choice in the introductory presser, but they are (and I am) excited to see what the guy has.

It doesn't mean I totally have to block out the debacle that was the coaching search, as it's painfully evident there were multiple failures in communication along the way. Painfully obvious that the front office was unable to sell the job to Josh McDaniels or to Adam Gase's agent. Who knows who else they were rebuffed by on the way.

All we can do now is hope this debacle ended up with them hiring a pretty good coach to bail them out.

2 things:

1) On the bolded, how is that info indicative of a front office failure? The only question I want you to answer is: Is it possible that the control desired was not going to be given to anyone that didn't previously earn it, which subsequently turned them off from the position?

2) I hope that the amount of coaches that are following Pettine are indicative of the quality of coach that he is.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Just so we are clear:

Mike Pettine is a good coach = total luck.

 

[Soda]

All the answers? No.

The answer to whether the Browns made the wrong hire just one year ago after being turned down by their top choices, fired the coach one year afterwards, were turned down by their top choices during this year's coaching search, were said to have been actively searching for a new coach a couple games into the season, are looked down upon by other front offices and roundly criticized by national and local media regarding the search itself...not to mention coming off of having another shitty team...

Yeah, I'm fairly confident about that one.

Anyways...I'm done with this one. It's been handled and if you can't see it and don't like my take and approach to when I'm proven right...too bad.

Egotistical, which is fine, but completely jaded. You aren't right when it's all based upon speculation.