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MLB - Trade Rumors and Speculation

Discussion in '(MLB) Cleveland Indians' started by sgm405, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. Spectre

    Spectre Playin' for keeps...

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    Belt is the dictionary definition of: "needs a change of scenery". Bochy has screwed with him ever since I can remember and was still giving Aubrey Huff ABs over him as Huff was hitting a buck fifty. He's been in a mental funk all year and it has Bochy written all over it. What he needs is a team that can give him an everyday job and has confidence in him. I'd love to see him with us even if he is another lefty.
     
  2. Randolphkeys

    Randolphkeys Admittedly Pompous Staff Member

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    Giants fans think they need another big bat as well... but the fan base is split on Belt. I think it's in the Giants best interest to lock up a consistent bullpen with a "win now" approach. That was the secret to winning it all in 2010. Their bullpen ain't what it used to be without Wilson.

    No matter what, I see the Tribe and Giants as quality trade partners.
     
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  3. Pyro

    Pyro Banned

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    It's really debatable what we need right now. The pitching has been hit or miss, but the offense has been as well. If the starting pitching continues to give up these massive amounts of runs and makes you feel like we're out of it in the 1st inning, then it doesn't matter who we have hitting. However, when the pitching has been good, the offense has sucked.

    Either way, I will be happy with whatever we do, even if that includes selling. I still love this team, and I will still and forever love Indians baseball.
     
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  4. Spectre

    Spectre Playin' for keeps...

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    Eww. James Shields is overrated as hell. Aside from last year, his ERAs have been: 4.84, 3.85, 3.56, 4.14, 5.18, 4.39. Now don't get me wrong, I'd take that over some of the slop we're putting out there now *here's lookin' at you Derek Lowe* but I wouldn't give up the farm to get him. At least his contract is reasonable though.
     
  5. Times

    Times Rookie

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    Shields is like the Ubaldo Jimenez of this year.
     
  6. Mo Fiya

    Mo Fiya Towel Waver

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    I've always liked james sheilds a lot and i think he'd be quietly a great pick up, similar to the doug fister trade. He's got good command of all of his pitches, (8.5 K9/ 2.7 BB9) has a nack for winning big games, and is on pace to pitch 200+ innings for the 6th straight year. I can't see him costing a whole hell of a lot either. Im for it.
     
  7. AZ_

    AZ_ Hall-of-Famer

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    Shields has been very inconsistant performance wise throughout his career, but he's taking the ball every fifth day and will be under team control for a couple years.

    What that would mean, however, is that they would be adding the same caliber of minor league free agents and past their prime veterans to fill other holes given that Shields would be filling the cap spot left by Hafner after this year.

    Not so sure I trust his ability to be consistent anymore than I trust Hafner to stay healthy.
     
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  8. Mo Fiya

    Mo Fiya Towel Waver

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    I agree with you to an extent... making 9 and 12 mil in 2013/2014 (team options 1.5/1 m buyout) but i'd love his arm in the rotation and if he comes cheap enough i don't see how you can pass that up
     
  9. AZ_

    AZ_ Hall-of-Famer

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    Shields is that Charles Nagy type veteran who knows how to pitch, and I respect the hell out of that.

    But if they want an ace's return for him, I want no part of it. Much like the Marlins and their demand for Josh Johnson, if it's getting ridiculous...move on.

    I think the market has evened out, with some big names coming off the board already teams can be more active not waiting around.

    FWIW, I expect Dempster to be a Dodger by Saturday night.
     
  10. Mo Fiya

    Mo Fiya Towel Waver

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    With what sheilds is owed the next two years compared to his production, i don't think the rays can ask for much more than a couple of decent prospects. If its more than that then you decline.
     
  11. Bkerr02

    Bkerr02 Rookie

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    Josh Johnson would be very nice but not what the marlins are asking for.
     
  12. WellYouNeednt

    WellYouNeednt Needles and Pins

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    I do apologize for the joking sarcasm CM. I was not very descriptive within my posts about LaPorta. All in all is 11 abs a quality sample size to make an educated decision on a prospect? Absolutely not. It would appear we are agreeing on this matter. On the other hand, in a situation with a player like Laporta-i feel like he has gotten every opportunity to show his stuff (last year in bigs, minors, brief glimpse this year). Sadly, [in my opinion] he has not shown anything to warrant an extended stay. This is more so with Kotchman's glove already at first. Do I wish he was a better and more consistent player? Absolutely. Right at this moment im leaning towards the conclusion that he is not/never will be-unless he can smooth out his all around game.

    Once again, my post was more on the playful side. FWIW, I respect a lot of the opinions of the posters in the Indians threads, including yours.
     
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  13. AMC

    AMC Mmhmm.

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    We want young retainable pitching...they have it.
     
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  14. Mo Fiya

    Mo Fiya Towel Waver

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    Mo Fiya Towel Waver

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    Although Santana's numbers are horrid, hes essentially costing them a prorated 11.2mm this year and 1mm next year (buy out)... getting bourjos and conger seems like a home-run deal for a guy thats 30 years old having a mediocre season and owed 24mm over the next 2 years. I want no part of Sheilds for that kind of package.
     
  16. AZ_

    AZ_ Hall-of-Famer

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    I would fucking love to trade with Pittsburgh.

    Their system is loaded with guys I love.
     
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  17. Pyro

    Pyro Banned

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    Bats? Pitchers?
     
  18. Amherstcavsfan

    Amherstcavsfan Duh

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    Mostly hard throwing pitchers, but there are some bats too.

    I would give a lot to get Allie.

    Edit: Must have been out of the loop for a while, I guess Allie is being made into a hitter? SMH.
     
  19. AZ_

    AZ_ Hall-of-Famer

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    Uhh...right.

    Are you thinking of Taillon?
     
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  20. AMC

    AMC Mmhmm.

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    I really like Josh Bell, you think he will recover from knee surgery?

    Seemed like 5 tool player before he got hurt.
     

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