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North Korea says Nuke Tests Target the US

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Paper maps are so WW2. And does that chubby bitch have a bowl of candy there next to him?

His cable isn't plugged in....
 
I'm waiting for them to hit China by mistake.
 
Today's headlines...

Report: North Korea approves Nuke attack on US.
MISSILE DEFENSE TO GUAM...
General: NKorea 'Volatile,' 'Dangerous'...
HAGEL CITES GROWING THREAT FROM NUKES...
Seeks help from Chinese...
Kerry: 'Provocative act'...
Russia worried by 'explosive' situation...
China military buildup on border continues...
US 'could make preemptive strike'...
Austin Officials 'Prepared To Take Whatever Precautions' Needed After Threat...
DoD deploying Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System


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1st off NK is a US pawn. NK is scapegoat.

First time I heard that one... Why do you think that?

I understand the United States does gain certain advantages by having an Asian based enemy that poses some imminent threat to it's neighbors, but what makes you think the situation is not natural but by design?
 
First time I heard that one... Why do you think that?

I understand the United States does gain certain advantages by having an Asian based enemy that poses some imminent threat to it's neighbors, but what makes you think the situation is not natural but by design?

I think it is by design.......

You alluded to China being behind this.....I would agree to that as well......

Op, Op Op, Op....Oppa Gangnam style!
 
They are both behind it. Along with many others.

Whenever discussion over North Korea arises in Western circles, it always seems to be accompanied by a strange mixture of sensationalism and indifference. The mainstream media consistently presents the communist nation as an immediate threat to U.S. national security, conjuring an endless number of hypothetical scenarios as to how they could join forces with Al-Qaeda and attack with a terroristic strategy. At the same time, the chest puffing of the late Kim Jong-iL and the standard fare of hyper-militant rhetoric on the part of the North Korean government in general seem to have lulled the American public into a trance of non-concern.

In the midst of the latest tensions with the North Koreans, I have found that most people are barely tracking developments and that, when confronted by the idea of war, they shrug it off as if it is a laughable concept. “Surely” they claim, “The North is just posturing as they always have.”

The high-focus propaganda attacking North Korea on our side and the puffer fish methodology on their side have created a social and political atmosphere surrounding our relations with the Asian nation that I believe places both sides of the Pacific in great danger. North Korea has the potential to become a trigger point for multiple economic catastrophes, and there are people in this world who would be happy to use such crises to serve their own interests.
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As far as being an imminent physical threat to the United States, it really depends on the scenario. The North Koreans have almost no logistical capability to support an invasion of any kind. The nation has been suffering from epidemic famine for well more than a decade.

To initiate a war outright has never been in the best interests of the North Koreans, simply because their domestic infrastructure would not be able to handle the strain. However, there is indeed a scenario in which North Korea could be influenced to use military force despite apprehension.

With the ever looming threat of famine comes the ever looming threat of citizen revolution. When any government is faced with the possibility of being supplanted, it will almost always lash out viciously in order to maintain power and control, no matter the cost. Sanctions like those being implemented by the West against North Korea today, at the very edge of national famine, could destabilize the country entirely. I believe the North would do anything to avoid an internal insurgency scenario, including attacking South Korea to acquire food stores and energy reserves, as well as other tangible modes of wealth.

North Korea’s standing army, obtained through mandatory two year conscription, is estimated at about 1.1 million active personnel; very close to the numbers active in the U.S. armed forces. But North Korean reserves are estimated at more than 8 million, compared to only 800,000 in the United States. If made desperate by economic sanctions, the North Koreans could field a massive army that would wreak havoc in the South and be very difficult to root out on their home turf. Asian cultures have centuries of experience using asymmetric warfare (the kryptonite of the U.S. military), and I do not believe it is wise to take such a possible conflict lightly, as many Americans seem to do. It is easy to forget that the last Korean War did not work out so well for us. At best, we would be mired in on-ground operations for years (just like Iraq and Afghanistan) or perhaps even decades. Like North Korea, we also do not have the logistical economic means to enter into another such war.

The skeptics argue that we will never get to this point, though, because North Korea has brandished and blustered many times before, all resulting in nothing. I see recent events being far different and more urgent than in the past, and here’s why:
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As I have discussed in numerous articles, China, the largest foreign holder of U.S. debt, has positioned itself to decouple from the American consumer and the dollar. This is no longer a theoretical process as it was in 2008, but a very real and nearly completed one. Mainstream analysts often claim China would never break from the dollar because it would damage their export markets and their investment holdings. The problem is, China is already dumping the dollar using bilateral trade agreements with numerous developing nations, Australia being the latest to abandon the greenback.

China isn’t just talking about it; China is doing it.

The development of a decoupled China is part of a larger push by international banks to remove the dollar as the world reserve currency and replace it with a new global currency. This currency already exists. The International Monetary Fund’s Special Drawing Rights (SDR) is a mechanism backed by a basket of currencies as well as gold. The introduction of the SDR on a wide scale is dependent on only two things:

First, China has been designated the replacement consumer engine in the wake of a U.S. collapse. They have already surpassed the United States as the No. 1 trading power in the world. However, they must spread their own currency, the Yuan, throughout global markets in order to aid the IMF in removing the dollar. China has recently announced a program to sell more than $6 trillion in Yuan denominated bonds to foreign investors, easily fulfilling this need.

Second, China and the IMF need a scapegoat event, a rationale for dumping the dollar that the masses would accept as logical. A U.S. invasion of North Korea could easily offer that rationale.
While China has been playing the good Samaritan in relations with the United States in dealing with North Korea and has supported (at least on paper) certain measures including sanctions, China will never be in support of Western combat actions in the Pacific so close to their territory. The kind of U.S. or NATO presence a war with North Korea would generate would be entirely unacceptable to the Chinese, who do not need to respond using arms. Rather, all they have to do to get rid of us would be to fully dump the dollar and threaten to cut off trade relations with any other country that won’t do the same. The domino effect would be devastating, causing U.S. costs to skyrocket and forcing us to pull troops out of the region. At the same time, the dollar would be labeled a “casualty of war” rather than a casualty of conspiratorial global banking designs, and the financial elites would be removed from blame.

Ultimately, we should take the North Korean situation seriously not because of the wild-eyed propaganda of the mainstream media and not because they are “doing business with terrorists” or because they are a “violent and barbaric relic of nationalism,” but because a war in North Korea serves the more malicious interests of globalization. No matter what happens in the near future, it is important for Americans to always question the true motives behind any event and ask ourselves who, in the end, truly benefited.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-...lobalists-use-north-korea-trigger-catastrophe
 
I think it is by design.......

You alluded to China being behind this.....I would agree to that as well......

Op, Op Op, Op....Oppa Gangnam style!

Don't know why China would be behind this simply because their economy is based off of consumerism in the US/EU and it is not as strong as they like to present to the rest of the world, which is evident because they have roaming construction groups randomly building cities that no one lives in.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/business...ing-bubble-burst/story-fnhohdoh-1226611169281

This is eventually going to drive property prices there down and the middle class people who had been investing in real estate over there are going to be hit worse than those hit here in the US due to the real estate bubble when the that happened here.

Also

So many US companies have products assembled in China it's not funny, if they are on the opposite of the US in a war would the US companies still be allowed to conduct BAU in China? Companies like Apple, Dell, Abercrombie, Ford, GE and hundreds of others.

http://www.jiesworld.com/international_corporations_in_china.htm

Pretty sure they wouldn't be and those jobs would be moved back to US or to other countries friendly to the US.

The fact that China has let the national currency, the Yaun, stagnate so much doesn't help the argument much either imo

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014132880

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/b...aising-trade-tension.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444840104577548610131107868.html
 
lol

A war with North fucking Korea is a bridge to globalization?

Just awful. The shit you read man...

And even if you don't buy the global banking motives behind it, you should still worry about the rest of the article. A war in Korea would undoubtedly be the end of the dollar, and hyperinflation isn't fun.
 
Don't know why China would be behind this simply because their economy is based off of consumerism in the US/EU and it is not as strong as they like to present to the rest of the world, which is evident because they have roaming construction groups randomly building cities that no one lives in.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/business...ing-bubble-burst/story-fnhohdoh-1226611169281

This is eventually going to drive property prices there down and the middle class people who had been investing in real estate over there are going to be hit worse than those hit here in the US due to the real estate bubble when the that happened here.

Also

So many US companies have products assembled in China it's not funny, if they are on the opposite of the US in a war would the US companies still be allowed to conduct BAU in China? Companies like Apple, Dell, Abercrombie, Ford, GE and hundreds of others.

http://www.jiesworld.com/international_corporations_in_china.htm

Pretty sure they wouldn't be and those jobs would be moved back to US or to other countries friendly to the US.

The fact that China has let the national currency, the Yaun, stagnate so much doesn't help the argument much either imo

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014132880

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/b...aising-trade-tension.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444840104577548610131107868.html

When they decide to dump their dollars, their currency will rise, lowering prices in China and creating a billion new consumers for their products. They don't need us, or our companies. The Chinese consumer has no loyalty to Apple or Ford. Those companies will come back here to starve with the rest of us.
 
So you can't dispute anything in the article, correct?

Dispute a currency/globalization conspiracy to go to war with North Korea article? I don't even consider it rational thought. A fantasy novel. The only thing I dispute is the Tyler Durden emoticons and Buy Silver/Gold ads that plague the front page of zerohedge. I'm sure they make Ron Paul and Alex Jones proud.
 

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