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Rev Run is a lyrical genius. I'm so glad they are in the Hall.

This is a now defunct area band I think could have made it if they didn't break up:

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This is the most underrated song to ever come out of C-Town:
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I know everyone here knows this already but im quoting it here just incase i need to use it to convince someone i know.

Y’know, bashing Lil Wayne via words is one of the funnest things to do. One day I’m going to be paid full time to trash talk and write shit about athletes and coaches, when I become a full time/full paid sports writer. But that’s until then. Right now, it’s time to step on Lil Wayne a little more and question how people can possibly listen to his mush mouth, inarticulate piece of junk that’s in the mainstream music.

He doesn’t rap. What he [supposedly] ‘raps’ isn’t rap. Like I said a long time ago, it’s Pop music. Hip Pop. Club Rap. How do I perceive that? Well, it’s popular, isn’t it? But, “It’s labeled as hip hop,” you ask. And, so what? Tim Duncan is labeled as a center but he’s a power forward, isn’t he? I rest my case. Lil Wayne doesn’t stick to the root of true rap/hip hop music. It’s all become a huge facade. A mecca to rap about bitches, guns and money. But don’t worry: there are rappers out there, underground rappers, who can outrap these no-talent hasbeens like Lil Wayne any day of the week.

“But Lil Wayne is more known, so he must be better.” Well, to the average basketball fan, they’ve probably heard of Kevin Garnett more than they’ve heard of Tim Duncan (trust me, I know plenty), when Duncan is clouds above Garnett. It’s all about popularity in the rap business; and with dumbasses, who don’t know what music is if they were trapped in a sound room and slapped in the face with headphones, buying music off of these mainstream hip hop artists who stick to the same bullshit theme, they’ll keep getting their money to add to their wealth. My theory is that, because he’s from the south, guys like Trick Daddy and Rick Ross — who are also terrible mainstream ‘rappers’ — ride his nuts like no other.

Is Lil Wayne the best rapper right now?

Firstly, to even discuss this question, you need to take your mindframe out of the last three to five years as well as learn something about hip hop music. Wayne isn’t a good lyricist period. He can’t rip freestyle and his flow is just bitten from volume one of Jay-Z. Like I said: he’s mush mouthed, inarticulate, and absorbed in narcissism, which some of you Young Buck fans may like, but does not signal a quality mic. You can only compare him to Ludacris, Young Jeezy, T.I., and Juelz Santana, because, save Luda, those three are NOT memorable rappers. Period. They don’t suck super hard, but they aren’t going in the history books as the best of the game. They aren’t even the best in the south. Killer Mike, Outkast, UGK, Scarface, Project Pat, Geto Boys, Devin the Dude, Pastor Troy, Little Brothers: Better rappers than the aforementioned four. Hell, David Banner smokes these cats on record. These dudes drop rhymes multisyllabic with sophistication and have versatility on the mic, unlike all the rappers mentioned in this question.

Canibus, The Roots, KRS-One, MF Doom, Nas, Papoose, Planet Asia, Rakim, RJD2, Talib Kweli, Jedi Mind Tricks and Immortal Technique all blow him out of the ****ing water.

Once you learn something, find me here again and read this blog, and then you will understand why haters, like myself, hate on Wayne. You will understand why he sucks.

http://17hours.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/why-lil-wayne-sucks/
 
Typhoon, I need to go smoke with that blog writer. Great find.
 
Heres a CD yall never thought would be on this thread

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Xzibit - Restless

Ive been had it for so long but only did i fully listen to it a couple days ago, in the car on the way back from NC. I feel like a dumbass, this CD was mutha****in great. Which wasnt a surprise because his first CD was great as well. Xzibit is so slept on, hes one of them people you would think wouldnt be underrated because he is kinda popular. But lyrically hes on point all the time, his flow is great, and his beats (done by Dre) are the shit. I think Luda took lessons from X because they are pretty similar in there rap delivery IMO.

Personally i give it 9/10

Definitely if give it a listen too, every track is at least Decent but most songs of them are On Point and Headbangers and all around Great.


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Also new J Dilla!

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Dillanthology

Havent listened to it yet but ive heard some of the songs before. Like Pharcyde - Runnin. If all the tracks are on that level, then i think i found musical heaven. Heres a review by my favorite rap review site: Rapreviews.com


J Dilla was one of the better producers in rap. 'Better'? - yes, for judging quality is a tangible thing, not an exercise in mysticism or logorrhea. But in light of his death, people have tried to categorize, 'make sense of' (?), or weave myths around his music, as if weird, ethereal language gets you any closer to appreciating sound. It doesn't, for what makes hip-hop production good is roughly quantifiable: innovation, composition (that is, sounds, instruments, etc., how they're positioned, and the end result: stifled, harmonious, monotonous, or whatever, and the formal function of each), depth, variety, and, in the case of production made for rappers, the room it leaves for their own contribution. Of course, this list isn't stable, and great artists may tweak these points, but these values don't really change. As you'll see, J Dilla had all of the above, and was successful because of it.

"Dillanthology" is the first album-length overview of JD's music in a series by Rapster Records. As a 'series,' there should have been more than 11 songs on the first release, an obvious shortcoming considering his output. Some, expecting an instrumental album, might also take issue with the inclusion of the rappers' vocals. A legitimate objection, but despite some benefits of pure instrumental music for judging production, JD did, for the most part, create music for rappers, one of the criteria for judgment noted above. In this way, listeners can judge the interplay of sound, ideas, and vocals, and see the formation of a complex whole, rather than an incomplete instrumental, not really intended to be stripped of its other half.

The first track, The Pharcyde's "Runnin,'" makes this clear. JD's airy piano punctuates Pharcyde's fading "run," as scratches inaugurate the first rapid verse. By itself, the instrumental wouldn't carry much weight - it's too sparse, which, by itself, isn't a bad thing, but there's not enough variety and complexity to give it depth. But, as a song, it does everything from giving the rappers room for vocal flexibility to establishing a subtle mood for the lyrical content. In brief, it works. Slum Village's "Fall In Love" has intense verses, while JD contrasts it with a small organ, muffled during each verse, a nice touch. Again, 'whole songs' are about interplay, or the sum of its parts, even if the parts themselves are individually brilliant, too.

Common's "The Light" has the familiar 'watery' feel, the omnipresent ringing neither oppressive, nor too subtle for appreciation. A great, high-pitched chorus sample plays against a barely audible piano, brought in for the first time, and some scratching. JD's best work, I think, straddles this line between traditional hip-hop and progressive material, offering something unfamiliar, especially, in this case, at the time of composition. Again, returning to the addition of rap, the instrumental would not have worked at 1:23 onwards, where there is a memorable gap, designed to get Common's voice in. Often, 'negative space' in music is useful by itself, but not here; it's essential to have a vocal, or get rid of the break something JD was conscious of while constructing the song.

Erykah Badu's "Didn't Cha Know" is probably the first track that works adequately as a stand-alone instrumental, a complex piece with multiple layers, unconventional instrumentation (including organic drum-beats that last for seconds at a time, a good choice since it's one way to offer variety, without the fear of a certain sound dominating an entire track) and great overlap. Of course, nothing is 'drowned,' a more apt description for much of self-proclaimed musical complexity. "Stakes Is High" by De La Soul, another classic, is thrown in, a dark, noisy, sample-driven affair that has the mid-90s' characteristic sparseness during verses, and heavy composition thrown in at the chorus. Fortunately, JD does not position in the instrumentation at predictable times, occasionally shifting its position as the track progresses, playing with the listener's expectations. Again, innovation...

The Roots' "Dynamite" is one of JD's weaker tracks (and one of my least favorite Roots songs on "Things Fall Apart," back when I used to listen to the album quite often), the problem being the dullness of the arrangement: a jazzy piano, virtually on repeat, and unimaginative drums. It's still a good song, however, given The Roots' vocal contributions, which made solid work from the production's lack of variety, positioning themselves somewhere in the cracks. Its sound is also slightly unexpected coming from Dilla, who is typically not a 'jazzy,' or 'organic' producer. And thus, another 'requirement' is fulfilled – variety, as JD has quite a bit of breadth from his early to later compositions.

Amp Fiddler's "I Believe in You" is more complex, driven by electronic, 'watery' bass-warps, and Spacek ends the compilation with a similarly progressive piece, this time driven by a split-second vocal sample, enlarged on 'repeat' throughout the entire track - somewhat 'unpleasant,' which is an irrelevant, artistically neutral observation, but also complex and innovative, which is artistry, and thus a legitimate comment. Considering how utterly banal lyrically, musically, and conceptually most soul music is, Dilla's contribution (as well as Spacek's unconventional vocal arrangement) is quite welcoming.

And there it is. No 'ether,' no 'divine inspiration,' no mythology - just technically excellent, oft-profound material, much of it quite good as instrumental pieces, and the rest fine-tuned for rappers' own needs. The high score is expected, since a 'best of' compilation - especially in Dilla's case - necessarily includes at least a few classics not only of his own doing, but also other artists' great performances.

Music Vibes: 8.5 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 8.5 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 8.5 of 10

Originally posted: April 14, 2009
source: www.RapReviews.com
 
Detroit sucks, but they do have solid hip-hop.
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This beat is nasty
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C-Rayz with Matisyahu..
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random favorites right now
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A song of Asher's Debut Album 'Asleep in the Bread Aisle' talking about how he is always compared to Eminem.
 
People need to start recognizing Elzhi--- absolutely out of this world (I see you MYoung)

<a href="http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.7339/title.elzhi-deep">Elzhi - Deep | Hip Hop Songs &gt; HipHopDX.com</a>

I'm the bell ringer, shell slinger, hot and ??? until the smell linger
Until they're as pale as Rene Zelwegger
When EL sting ya, ya feel it like your braile finger
Searchin for the line, I'm...
First, you stuck in last, rappers now suckin' ass
Full of new school neggas, I wouldn't fvckin pass
They should flunk a class and dip low,
they tip toe and eavesdrop, with both sleeves dropped
Now please stop...
You'll melt faster than a freeze pop in 100 degrees, EL sunnin' them C's, he's pops
You better put that work in, I murk greens and kill grills
My ??? peels, and peels weels that ??? feels, that heals ills like Benadrylls pills
The hottest artist reveals chills, when I drop gems that play out fems
When you compete, these rhymes ain't cheap, oh yeah I get deep

* * * * *

Yeah I gets deeper than that, once I blow your mind you not keepin' that hat
I bomb the scene, killin' off your rhyme machine,
You took it back like a time machine, my diamonds clean
My flow is hydro cannibis ???, also know as chronic weed ??? than this reefer
Watch ya blow, my nuts hang a couple crotches low
And fvck 15 minutes, negga my watch is slow
You need to cease the bragin', you see the fire I spit when I unleash the dragon
The ruler is back, we battle your medula is cracked
We do it online and you'll find that your computer is hacked
It's your decision, where my brain stores the vision
I'm seein' bars come together like doors in prison
When I spit that line that you can keep in your mind
When it creep, I do it in my sleep, I gets deep

* * * * *

Listen I blow trees with the buddha man, squeeze with the warlord
Your floored stay high on point like a scoreboard
I come hard to where a chick pull a clit
I know you assholes pissin, you d!cks full of sh!t :)chuckles:)
Get your dogs muzzled, I'm drunk off the power I guzzled
Break men into pieces, leave them puzzled
Clips, I pack a man like sardines
Flipin on neggas like megatron in the hands of star screen
And this year ya'll going to have to give it up the fvck up
If not I'm going to take it, howeva you make of it
I stack cake a bit, I should wear a bakers mit
And puts cheese down on the whip like it was Quaker grits
A little mommy if she shake she her tits,
and work the poll and make you twerq and role
I know it irks your hole if I can that I can jerk your soul
In your sleep you'll meet the Grim Reap,
Oh yeah I gets deep

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Where's kosis? :thumbup:
 
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I been listin to Elzhi for at least a year now, when he was with Slum Village. I didnt post the music cuz i thought everyone was gonna just glance over it and sleep on it like everything else in the thread

guess not :king:
 
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