Playoff Officiating

[enigmatic]

I would love to see the refs be required to do a postgame presser during the playoffs. I think it would help clean up the shitty reffing if they had to answer for their ineptitude and inaction.

Needs to happen but never, ever will, IMO.

 

[CosmoKramer]

That jump ball on LeBron when he never lost possession was nothing short of hilarious.
Pressey might have gotten two hands on it but the ball wasn't dislodged at all, why did the refs jump of the chance to stop play there yet let countless hand checks and shoves under the basket happen?

I hate blaming officiating for anything but this series has been a fucking travesty.

 

[gaitano]

I can get behind Dennis Manoloff's view of the officiating:
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Inexcusable: Love's injury never should have happened.


With 5:22 left in the quarter, Boston forward Jae Crowder shot a 3-pointer from the right wing. As the ball neared the hoop, Love established textbook box-out position. Boston center Kelly Olynyk came from the weak side and, in clear view of a referee, plowed Love from behind enough to knock him off his base.


No whistle.


As the ball bounced off the rim to the left, Olynyk and Love became entangled -- largely because of Olynyk. Love reached for the ball with his right hand but was unable to secure it because Olynyk encased his left arm. For a second, Olynyk held on tight to the extended left arm and took a step in the other direction, as if he were a running back carrying the football over the goal line.


A second and a step were all it took to wreck havoc on Love's shoulder. Love grabbed it and essentially sprinted to the locker room.


Olynyk was, in fact, called for a loose-ball foul -- but the call occurred several seconds too late.


Love told reporters in Boston that he thought Olynyk's play was "bush-league'' and that he had "no doubt'' it was intentional. Based on replays alone, it is easy to understand why Love thinks so. Bottom line: Olynyk had an opportunity to release an arm extended in a compromising position and declined to do so.


Celtics personnel, as expected, defended Olynyk, claiming he is not that type of player. Maybe not -- but it doesn't mean the play can't be (sewer) dirty.


One of the "defenses'' of Olynyk was laughable on its face. Celtics guard Evan Turner, in a quote relayed by Boston Globe NBA writer Gary Washburn on Twitter, said of Olynyk: "He's a horrible box-out guy in practice. Can't box out to save his life.''


As if that makes it acceptable in any way. Perhaps Brad Stevens, the great Brad Stevens, marvelous coach of the lovable underdogs (who were swept), should teach his players how to box out correctly.
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Clueless: Just when it didn't seem possible that the referee trio of Leroy Richardson, Tony Brothers and John Goble could butcher anything else, a sequence occurred with 37 seconds remaining that boggled the mind.

After guard Isaiah Thomas made a layup to cut Boston's deficit to 99-91, James attempted to inbound the ball to Irving. Thomas put both hands on James from behind and forced an errant pass that was "intercepted'' by Avery Bradley.

No whistle.

Irving fouled Bradley in the act of shooting, and Bradley made both free throws to make it a six-point game with 37 seconds remaining.

Somehow, some way, Thomas had gotten away with technical-fouling an inbounder from behind. LeBron pleaded his case to the nearest referee on the scene, Brothers, to no avail.
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Really, Isaiah? Thomas, a reserve, shot 18-of-54 (33 percent) from the field and committed 14 turnovers in the series. He was part of the reason the amazing Celtics were swept. Yet Thomas decided to be an authority on playoff basketball.

In the Associated Press game story, Thomas said of the physical play in the series: "We are all men here. We don't need to cry. It's playoff basketball. You need to move forward.''

Memo to Thomas: 1. No one is crying. 2. Playoff basketball does not involve grabbing the inbounder. 3. The Cavs are, in fact, moving forward. 4. Who are you, again?

 

[We'reAllKyrieWitnesses]

I don't know if any of you have been following Stevens' career, but this is how he was able to reach 2 National Championships. His players will use any and all underhanded physical tactics to gain an advantage. The amazing part is the degree to which he has some apparent mind control over referees -- to the point that they just don't call them on their sh$%.

BTW, I don't know if you were aware of this, but it was just that kind of play by Butler's Matt Howard that led to Kyrie's toe injury in 2010 that, for all intents and purposes, ended his college career.

 

[ThirdWorld]

ONLY REF I DONT WANT OFFICIATING IS TONY BROTHERS

FUCKING CLOWN ALWAYS WITH THE NON CALLS ON LEBRON-GAMES SINCE JOINING MIAMI.

REMEMBER THIS MUG FOR THE YEARS TO COME

 

[David.]

Congrats refs, responsible for two major injuries and altering a huge playoff series in the cavs vs bulls.

Fucking joke

 

[K1rieIrving>AllOtherPG's]

normally LBJ is not getting a lot of calls because he is so big and strong and can finish with ease, the refs take that for granted and this is annoying the heck out of me, a foul is a foul just because LBJ is strong and takes it doesn't mean you don't call it - he is getting the Shaq treatment, he was so strong fouls were not called because it didn't seem to effect him - I estimate that 4-8 fouls are not getting called for LBJ per game - that's a lot of points going down the toilet.... nothing we can do about it unfortunately.

^ that's the standard in 90% of the time, but the officiating was so bad all around in this series I can't believe it, either those ref's are complete idiots or they have other motives and agendas .

I would love the NBA to implement an "officiating regulation team", their only job will be to make sure that the officiating is fair and balanced and to regulate the ref's and make sure stuff like this never happen again, and they should have the power to sanction and punish officials.
ie: if an idiot ref makes over then 5 idiotic retarded call's in a season that's a month suspension without pay, if he keeps it up he is out of a job.
that's the only way to make officiating is fair, if they know their job and money is on the line they will take it more seriously and stop colluding with each other about hidden agendas and ruining damn games.

I also think there should be and "challenge option" just like the NFL the head coach should be able to challenge and review a call once per quarter and twice in the fourth, since the refs are idiots the coach should have a tool he can use to counter that.

 

[David.]

Btw if you think the refs all collectively went rogue on the nba rather than sterling instructing them to keep games close, idk what to tell you other than the refs aren't going to be under review and sterling isn't going to reprimand a single one of them

 

[Crosby_Cavs]

Haha the best part? Reviewing Kyrie's block/foul on Thomas if there is not Flagrant.

 

[K1rieIrving>AllOtherPG's]

Btw if you think the refs all collectively went rogue on the nba rather than sterling instructing them to keep games close, idk what to tell you other than the refs aren't going to be under review and sterling isn't going to reprimand a single one of them

I know, so annoying smh..... those douche bags ref's will not be punished.
that's why I think all pro sports need to have outside regulation on officiating, hell maybe even government, since they are ruining the integrity of the game's, not just in basketball

 

[And1]

I can get behind Dennis Manoloff's view of the officiating:
...
Inexcusable: Love's injury never should have happened.


With 5:22 left in the quarter, Boston forward Jae Crowder shot a 3-pointer from the right wing. As the ball neared the hoop, Love established textbook box-out position. Boston center Kelly Olynyk came from the weak side and, in clear view of a referee, plowed Love from behind enough to knock him off his base.


No whistle.


As the ball bounced off the rim to the left, Olynyk and Love became entangled -- largely because of Olynyk. Love reached for the ball with his right hand but was unable to secure it because Olynyk encased his left arm. For a second, Olynyk held on tight to the extended left arm and took a step in the other direction, as if he were a running back carrying the football over the goal line.


A second and a step were all it took to wreck havoc on Love's shoulder. Love grabbed it and essentially sprinted to the locker room.


Olynyk was, in fact, called for a loose-ball foul -- but the call occurred several seconds too late.


Love told reporters in Boston that he thought Olynyk's play was "bush-league'' and that he had "no doubt'' it was intentional. Based on replays alone, it is easy to understand why Love thinks so. Bottom line: Olynyk had an opportunity to release an arm extended in a compromising position and declined to do so.


Celtics personnel, as expected, defended Olynyk, claiming he is not that type of player. Maybe not -- but it doesn't mean the play can't be (sewer) dirty.


One of the "defenses'' of Olynyk was laughable on its face. Celtics guard Evan Turner, in a quote relayed by Boston Globe NBA writer Gary Washburn on Twitter, said of Olynyk: "He's a horrible box-out guy in practice. Can't box out to save his life.''


As if that makes it acceptable in any way. Perhaps Brad Stevens, the great Brad Stevens, marvelous coach of the lovable underdogs (who were swept), should teach his players how to box out correctly.
...
Clueless: Just when it didn't seem possible that the referee trio of Leroy Richardson, Tony Brothers and John Goble could butcher anything else, a sequence occurred with 37 seconds remaining that boggled the mind.

After guard Isaiah Thomas made a layup to cut Boston's deficit to 99-91, James attempted to inbound the ball to Irving. Thomas put both hands on James from behind and forced an errant pass that was "intercepted'' by Avery Bradley.

No whistle.

Irving fouled Bradley in the act of shooting, and Bradley made both free throws to make it a six-point game with 37 seconds remaining.

Somehow, some way, Thomas had gotten away with technical-fouling an inbounder from behind. LeBron pleaded his case to the nearest referee on the scene, Brothers, to no avail.
...
Really, Isaiah? Thomas, a reserve, shot 18-of-54 (33 percent) from the field and committed 14 turnovers in the series. He was part of the reason the amazing Celtics were swept. Yet Thomas decided to be an authority on playoff basketball.

In the Associated Press game story, Thomas said of the physical play in the series: "We are all men here. We don't need to cry. It's playoff basketball. You need to move forward.''

Memo to Thomas: 1. No one is crying. 2. Playoff basketball does not involve grabbing the inbounder. 3. The Cavs are, in fact, moving forward. 4. Who are you, again?

Fukin idiot

 

[And1]

Fukin idiot Thomas QUOTE]

 

[KingDavidBlatt]

I've been watching this over and over each year since the 80's. The refs wont change. The players need to adapt. And yes, the coach too.

LeBron needs to learn how to "sell" fouls like Harden does. He gets whacked every single drive, and instead of "taking it like a man" he needs to pressure the refs by flopping, shouting, or whatever. No need for and-1's. Make the no-call a non-possibility.
JR needs to learn to elbow down low, not in the face, and in general be more cool. Suspensions for starters are simply not worth it.
David needs to find the right moment for a T. Needs to draw the line for the guys, the refs, the crowd, and the media. When a guy injures your player on purpose and doesn't get ejected, or at least a T, and you don't "flip out" - you're sending the message that it's ok. And he saw it clearly.

What Perkins did to Crowder is how you win in the playoffs. You hit back harder.
Iman was extraordinary BTW. The game could've easily gone the other way if not for him.

 

[Simmy]

We can be as vexed as we like with regards to the officiating - not only in the Playoffs but throughout this entire season - as we like. The reality is (and I'm sure these are sentiments that are being shared in the locker room as we speak), the players must come to anticipate and overcome these kinds of odds.

It's often said in sport (although more often than note, the excuses are justified), refereeing is no excuse for in-game performance and losses. And while we witnessed some of the biggest loads of nonsense ever on an NBA floor last night including inexcusable decisions that lead to injuries and moral frailty, we're talking about a situation where we have a group of guys with one collective desire and one collective mentality: to do whatever it takes to win.

I know LeBron has come to expect poor decisions throughout his career, and this is something he has to funnel to the rest of the guys. Right now, our backs are against the wall and we're facing some real Playoff adversity.

Are we the team that makes excuses or are the we team that goes out and gets it done? The refereeing has been inexcusable, but our guys must play through that and must learn to win despite any unfavorable decisions on the floor.

 

[wuck]

On the half-full side, I assume the pool of active refs shrinks between Round 1 and 2. We move from 16 active teams to 8 active teams. I hope we see a similar shrinking of the pool of refs used in Round 2. Playoff refereeing is never good, but it has an opportunity to get a bit better in each round.