Poll Added: Phoenix interested in Gee

[MirORich]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

Point made, but that was a completely different era of the Salary Cap and the Ht Rod contract represented a much higher percentage of the cap at that time than Gee at 4 million a year would now, That Hot Rod contract was also some ridiculous length like 10 years( or am I getting that confused with the Ferry contract?)

Anyways, my main argument for not just let Gee walk is that we need to capitalize on all assets. I want to either keep him and let him see if he can be core top-8 rotation guy or let him build some more value and trade him. Do not let him walk for nothing.

The CAVS once ruined their team for years when the matched the offer sheet from the cHeat for John Hot Rod Willliams.

 

[BigErieCavsFan]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

Point made, but that was a completely different era of the Salary Cap and the Ht Rod contract represented a much higher percentage of the cap at that time than Gee at 4 million a year would now, That Hot Rod contract was also some ridiculous length like 10 years( or am I getting that confused with the Ferry contract?)

Anyways, my main argument for not just let Gee walk is that we need to capitalize on all assets. I want to either keep him and let him see if he can be core top-8 rotation guy or let him build some more value and trade him. Do not let him walk for nothing.

The letting him walk for nothing comment does make me realize that there is a fine line between playing hard ball with players (make no offer, see what he gets and decide to match) and being a loyal front office (making him an offer that you feel is truly fair and see if he accepts). I've always rooted for the loyal side, but I wasn't feeling that with Gee until you mentioned that we lose him for nothing if he goes.

 

[The Process God]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

I would be really upset if we lost gee! He has been incredible coming off the bench and i feel like the cavs are some improvement and a good draft away from being a 500 team which would mean contending for the playoffs! we need to keep gee!

We don't want to keep Gee just so we can make the playoffs next season. If we're going to keep Gee, it should be so that we can win a championship. Coach Scott has even said himself that his goal isn't the playoffs next season, but development.

 

[Scholar]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

Point made, but that was a completely different era of the Salary Cap and the Ht Rod contract represented a much higher percentage of the cap at that time than Gee at 4 million a year would now, That Hot Rod contract was also some ridiculous length like 10 years( or am I getting that confused with the Ferry contract?)

Anyways, my main argument for not just let Gee walk is that we need to capitalize on all assets. I want to either keep him and let him see if he can be core top-8 rotation guy or let him build some more value and trade him. Do not let him walk for nothing.

It wasn't 10 years. It was heavily front loaded in an attempt at making it difficult for the Cavs to match.

 

[Ohio]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

I will be pretty disappointed if we can't even hold onto Alonzo Gee.

Plus, I love wrecking people with him on 2K. So keeping him is a win-win

 

[daddywags]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

As much as I've been a fan of Gee the last two years, if we have a competent front office we will decide on a number we think is correct for Gee's next contract and stick to that rather than getting carried away into some bidding war. We aren't at the point in our rebuild yet where complimentary players like Gee are worth overpaying to keep if some other team decides to go crazy.

 

[PosterTime]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

I will be pretty disappointed if we can't even hold onto Alonzo Gee.

Plus, I love wrecking people with him on 2K. So keeping him is a win-win

He's nasty in 2k hahhahah. I posterize the shit out of everyone with the Gee man. :gap:

 

[Triumph36]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

If you weren't expecting Gee to be worth a lot of money on the open market, you haven't been paying attention.

"up to $4M" isn't really al ot of money

Sad part is that he seemed like he had a good amount of potential. Not to be a an all-star or anything, but like a poor-man's Terry. Someone that can give you some nice scoring nights. But he just never improved after the 08 season. Injuries, the Mo trade, etc may have played a part.

i remember when some were comparing him to a poor man's billups

lol

I'd gladly take Darius Miller or Jae Crowder in the 2nd round to replace Gee.

You say he still has a lot of room to improve and develop, but I see the opposite. I think he's reached his potential. For all the hooplah about how improved he was from last year to this year, he really didn't improve all that much. Most of it was confidence and understanding the system.

All that's left for Gee is settling into a role where he can maximize his efficiency and I think that's as an 8th man, and I'd rather not pay my 8th man more than $3-4 million per year for more than 2-3 years.

I'd like to retain him, but only at the right price, he's easily replaceable IMO.

yeah this

more confidence + more experience + more minutes = bigger numbers

but bigger numbers obv != more efficient numbers

whether or not the cavs retain alonzo gee will have little to no impact on their future

4 mill is fair especially when Gibson is getting 4-6.

i've seen this (or similar variants) said quite a bit lately and it makes no sense and just sets teams up for overpaying

this guy is overpaid, so that means everyone's value is inflated. um no? especially considering how nobody would give gibson 4-6 now.

 

[Giambiwannabe7]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

I'm glad this FO recognizes the value of Gee more than some of the posters on here. I'm glad they have publicly acknowledged him as a part of the core of this rebuild already. No, of course they should not break the bank on the guy, but they should and will match any reasonable offer. When this team was at full strength, and Gee was playing a role more designed for a guy fresh out of the D-League(6th man and closer), he was incredibly effective. Do people forget so easily the 4th Q tandem he and KI made? Do people forget so easily his clutch 3pt shooting(alternating between 1st and 2nd in the NBA with KI in the entire NBA in 4thQ 3 pt %) and 80%+ 4th Q FT shooting? LeChoker has really made me recognize and value clutch a lot more than ever before.

This guy will flourish as a 6th man. He's reached his max potential? Really? That's absurd. The guy has already shown what he's capable of. As the season wore on, he faded. Well damn, man, let's just throw him away then. Can't wait to hear all the bitching when Grant matches a 4 yr/15-16mil contract...and then all those same people eating their words a few years later when that same contract is seen as a great value.

 

[Kouki]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

"up to $4M" isn't really al ot of money

i remember when some were comparing him to a poor man's billups

lol

yeah this

more confidence + more experience + more minutes = bigger numbers

but bigger numbers obv != more efficient numbers

whether or not the cavs retain alonzo gee will have little to no impact on their future

i've seen this (or similar variants) said quite a bit lately and it makes no sense and just sets teams up for overpaying

this guy is overpaid, so that means everyone's value is inflated. um no? especially considering how nobody would give gibson 4-6 now.

But on the same note, if Gibson was healthy, a 5 mil contract wouldn't be too terrible to move.

 

[Derek]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

But on the same note, if Gibson was healthy, a 5 mil contract wouldn't be too terrible to move.

For me, it's more about the years than the salary. 2 years $10 million doesn't sound as bad as 4 years $16 million

 

[Oasis]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

Gee is a 3yr/9mil player. Really nothing more. He's decent defensively and plays the passing lanes well. On offense he still has lots of trouble creating his own shot, and has one of the most God-awfully long releases after being set. His mechanics (at least in my view) aren't going to change or improve.He played PF in college--and there's a reason for that. Defenses lay off because he's not really a consistent threat from long distance or anywhere on the perimeter for than matter.

He's a tireless worker and will more than likely get marginally better, but I fear he's extremely close to his ceiling.

I like his game and hope we can keep him--but it has to be at our price. Anything more and we have to take a step back in losing him with the hope of taking two step forward in the draft.

Oasis

 

[TwoPistols]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

This isn't about Gee's stats. Like Varejao, he is a player whose contributions don't fully show up in the stat sheet. Gee provides solid defense and although he may not be that good of a shooter, to me it seems like he hits a big 3 whenever he was open and we needed it. His dunks alone can swing the momentum of the game. The Cavs are desperate for athleticism anywhere on the floor. The Cavs can't afford to let their most athletic player get away.

 

[CleveRocks]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

Depends on draft day really. We could easily pick up two small forward prospects in this draft that would make gee a little less important. I like Gee a lot and I think a 3 million dollar 3 year contract is perfect. But I don't think he is James harden 2. Even at 4 million, there is a reasonable probability we could trade the contract.

 

[shukle]

Re: NBA Rumors: Phoenix Suns Interested in Alonzo Gee

4mil/yr is never going to be a capkiller... At worst, it's a 4mil expiring in 3 years, don't see the problem! It's the Rashard Lewis', the joe johnson's that kill their teams cap... Heck, even Luke Walton hasn't kept the Lakers from being great!
I don't understand why people freak over 1mil/yr