Potential destinations for Ramon Sessions

[ChocolateButter]

If Favors is available and can be had for a deal centered around Sessions I would do it in a heartbeat. A young rebuilding team can never have to many young athletic bigs with potential like Favors. Favors may not have quite the ideal bulk but he is long enough and athletic enough to play minutes at center.

But I really have trouble believing that Utah is ready to swap him for someone of Sessions caliber. I really hope I am wrong about that, but I just don't see it happening.

 

[mcfly]

Was Favors not the center piece of the Deron deal? I simply find it very difficult to think that he is available for anything less than a decent 1st and/or a solid young prospect.

 

[Jon]

Favors for Sessions would be highway robbery. With Favors and Millsap at the same position, Utah should be using one of them to get them a starter at another position ... not to pickup a backup PG.

 

[narbar32]

Can favors play C or would he take minutes away from Tristan? I feel like the Cavs frontcourt is still unknown. I would love to see Samardo get more time at his natural position and see Tristan start. I feel like Tristan's minutes are so inconsistent he is not getting enough time to make mistakes already. Bringing in another pf seems like a problem. That said, I'd love to get rid of Hollins.

Better to just not think on it at all. The proposal is the worst kind of speculation from someone that can only be described as woefully out of touch with the realities of the NBA and is most certainly a Cavs fan, him or herself. There is no basis in reality there whatsoever. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sessions and Favors NBA 2k12 ratings were comparable, perhaps even favoring Sessions (unfortunately haven't played it), and that that was the basis of this "article".

 

[CleveRocks]

Since we are completely in the tank at this point, what do you think we could get for Jamison/Sessions if we took Okafors contract from New Orleans.?

I am thinking a First and perhaps Henry or Aminu...

 

[UDcleveland]

Since we are completely in the tank at this point, what do you think we could get for Jamison/Sessions if we took Okafors contract from New Orleans.?

I am thinking a First and perhaps Henry or Aminu...

They wouldn't give us their 2012 first in a million years. And I doubt they even do a future first without protecting the shit out of it. I honestly think the Baron Davis deal was the last time we are going to see a deal like that. Not just for the Cavs but for anyone. We had the perfect storm of Donald Sterling being an idiot and us getting lucky. Now that the league saw how that one played out... don't see anyone shelling out unprotected picks in a salary dump. Especially when you are trying to attract a buyer.

 

[BimboColesHair]

No shot Orlando trades for Sessions. We want a 1st, and they aren't giving theirs up. After they inevitably trade Howard, they start their plummet into the lottery. Now if they are dumb enough to bet their first rounder on the idea that Sessions is going to make them a title contender/keep Dwight in Orlando? Then by all means...

On a side note, whenever BimboColesHair posts, I'm like, the fuck? I didn't write that?

Haha...unfortunately there is a limit to the amount of pictures of Bimbo in a Cavs jersey, but I'm changing it

 

[UDcleveland]

Haha...unfortunately there is a limit to the amount of pictures of Bimbo in a Cavs jersey, but I'm changing it

Ha, not necessary, but I am all for getting as many Bimbo pictures on here as possible. Dude needs to be recognized for his ugliness.

 

[LNance]

They wouldn't give us their 2012 first in a million years. And I doubt they even do a future first without protecting the shit out of it. I honestly think the Baron Davis deal was the last time we are going to see a deal like that. Not just for the Cavs but for anyone. We had the perfect storm of Donald Sterling being an idiot and us getting lucky. Now that the league saw how that one played out... don't see anyone shelling out unprotected picks in a salary dump. Especially when you are trying to attract a buyer.

On the other hand NOH is owned by the NBA it would save them $30 million! I don't think that will really effect what GM's do in the future as it's so unlikely that what happened last draft will happen again no less back to back!:chuckles:


$30 million is a lot of cash to buy a lotto pick even if by the slimmest chance it became the 1st Pick. I would even throw in our 2 2012 2nd picks and our 2013 1st from the Heat.

 

[UDcleveland]

On the other hand NOH is owned by the NBA it would save them $30 million

While this is true, trading away what will essentially be Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond, Barnes, or whoever would end up costing New Orleans a hell of a lot more than $30 Million. Jersey sales, attendance, potential playoff revenues, etc etc.... all just to get rid of Okafor?

The fact that they are currently owned by the NBA makes it LESS likely that they would do such a deal, in my opinion. They only own the team until they find someone to buy it. Imagine trying to tell a prospective buyer the team currently has 7 wins and just traded away their one shot to get substantially better any time soon.

 

[Mdog1]

NOH isn't trading their pick, but that MIN pick looks less and less valuable by the game. That one might be available.

Edit: That MIN pick would be 12th right now. The 12th overall + our 8th overall pick could easily be enough to get us into where the best players in the draft will be picked. Or we could keep it, and we could be looking at Beal and Henson at 8 and 12. Not to bad. But it is all moot imo, doubt we make a move for Okafor.

 

[Joe Henderson]

NOH isn't trading their pick, but that MIN pick looks less and less valuable by the game. That one might be available.

Edit: That MIN pick would be 12th right now. The 12th overall + our 8th overall pick could easily be enough to get us into where the best players in the draft will be picked. Or we could keep it, and we could be looking at Beal and Henson at 8 and 12. Not to bad. But it is all moot imo, doubt we make a move for Okafor.

Why would someone trade out of the top 4-5? For two lesser picks? I don't see it at all. Doesn't seem to happen in the nba. Especially not in this draft.

 

[Mdog1]

Why would someone trade out of the top 4-5? For two lesser picks? I don't see it at all. Doesn't seem to happen in the nba. Especially not in this draft.

We'll see if it could, i'm not saying it is likely, but it should be on the table from us to every other team. And we will also see just how great this draft is. Right now it looks good, but if Drummond stays this draft becomes two potenital superstars, and a handful of almost allstar potential players. In that situation there is no way anyone would trade out of the top 5. If Anthony Davis or MKG stays same thing, if all three stay this is a worse draft than last year by far.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

NOH isn't trading their pick, but that MIN pick looks less and less valuable by the game. That one might be available.

That Minny pick would currently be #12. 5-5 in their last 10 and they're a Love or Rubio injury away from being really bad again. The Wolves schedule is about to get much tougher. With 35 games left in the season, the TWolves still play the Lakers (x3), Portland (x3), Utah (x2), Denver (x4), Clippers (x3), OKC (x2), Memphis (x2), Philly, Boston, and Indy. That's 22 of 35 against teams currently in the playoffs or within one game. They also have three each against Phoenix and Golden State who have been playing better as of late. That pick could easily drop like a rock over the second half of the season.

Not sure if it'd be worth taking on Okafor though, considering he still has three years left and a bunch of money. The only way it would make any sense is if the Cavs bought him out. I'm not against it, but they'd probably have to deal Jamison and Sessions and then pay Okafor around $18-23 million in a buyout. Not sure if that's really worth it unless that Minny pick were to fall in the top 10.

 

[Jon]

$30 million is a lot of cash to buy a lotto pick even if by the slimmest chance it became the 1st Pick. I would even throw in our 2 2012 2nd picks and our 2013 1st from the Heat.

Perhaps we could try to target Eric Gordon, but as the cornerstone of the CP3 deal, I don't think even though he's going to be a RFA they could just sell him off like that. The league would look like fools. They need to find the team a new owner, and let that owner worry about what to do with Gordon and whether to match any offers he might receive.

I don't see them trading either of their picks, and dumping the Minnesota pick would make them look foolish as well.

But I've also go to wonder whether New Orleans even wants to bother dumping Okafor? If they'd like to invest his salary somewhere else that's one thing, but they do need to meet the minimum payroll requirements.