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All good comments. I did not say however that the pick had to be a 2012. In fact, I also doubt they part with a 2012 pick, but I could say the same thing about just about any team with a lottery 2012 pick. Houston is the only team I think has a pick I really want, but I no longer have the goods they want (a viable center and Andy is injured). But the context of the thread is what can we get for Sessions.
The way I see it, the most LA gives up for Sessions is the Dallas pick. My thought is that combining Sessions and Jamison gets me more perhaps. But Jamison's value is quite limited in the league. And so is Sessions in this year, because so many point guards have emerged that are surprisingly good. In this rookie class we have added Irving, Rubio, Lin, Walker, Knight, Coles and Isiah Robinson, all of whom are starting or at least playing significant minutes. Where are the contention teams that need a starting quality point guard?
I am thinking that Antawn has two values for NO. One is his expiring. Another is that he provides scoring either as a starter or off the bench which they actually need. He is also a good veteran, and does not cause locker room issues. NO does not really need Sessions, but neither Vasquez nor Jack are setting the world on fire. Jack has certainly peaked as a player, but Sessions offers a better future. He is also more valuable as a trade piece later if he is resigned.
I think it might be possible to include the sactown conditional in the trade that would in fact include the 2012 first. I think that would be harder for NO to resist. They are going to suck this year, but they are going to suck for the next three years as well, unless they can grab Dwight (Not happening if the NBA still owns them). To them, the sactown first is simply kicking the selection down the road a bit, and for 30 million dollars and Sessions, even Stern would see that increases the franchise value, IMO. It is a question for us to consider, would we give up those two guys and the sactown pick to get a top five pick in this draft.
I think it makes us better. Sessions and Jamison have short term value to the Cavs. Trading them gets more time to our developing players (which will put us closer to lottery ourselves). I personally don't think I would buy out Okafor. Considering our trajectory, he is useful as a bench big even for a couple of years (is he better than Hollins?) and then useful again in the big trades we will need after we get our draft picks to complete the team.
The way I see it, the most LA gives up for Sessions is the Dallas pick. My thought is that combining Sessions and Jamison gets me more perhaps. But Jamison's value is quite limited in the league. And so is Sessions in this year, because so many point guards have emerged that are surprisingly good. In this rookie class we have added Irving, Rubio, Lin, Walker, Knight, Coles and Isiah Robinson, all of whom are starting or at least playing significant minutes. Where are the contention teams that need a starting quality point guard?
I am thinking that Antawn has two values for NO. One is his expiring. Another is that he provides scoring either as a starter or off the bench which they actually need. He is also a good veteran, and does not cause locker room issues. NO does not really need Sessions, but neither Vasquez nor Jack are setting the world on fire. Jack has certainly peaked as a player, but Sessions offers a better future. He is also more valuable as a trade piece later if he is resigned.
I think it might be possible to include the sactown conditional in the trade that would in fact include the 2012 first. I think that would be harder for NO to resist. They are going to suck this year, but they are going to suck for the next three years as well, unless they can grab Dwight (Not happening if the NBA still owns them). To them, the sactown first is simply kicking the selection down the road a bit, and for 30 million dollars and Sessions, even Stern would see that increases the franchise value, IMO. It is a question for us to consider, would we give up those two guys and the sactown pick to get a top five pick in this draft.
I think it makes us better. Sessions and Jamison have short term value to the Cavs. Trading them gets more time to our developing players (which will put us closer to lottery ourselves). I personally don't think I would buy out Okafor. Considering our trajectory, he is useful as a bench big even for a couple of years (is he better than Hollins?) and then useful again in the big trades we will need after we get our draft picks to complete the team.