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Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

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Randolphkeys said:
He was a cleaner quarterback in 2017 than he was the year before. He can make all the throws. I want to see what Mayfield can do against bigger, stronger, faster defenses and less dominant talent around him. I have questions, but I had questions about all these top four prospects.
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Love this. Give the dude a chance.
 
Still think Rosen is the best player, but he must be a magnificent cunt with some serious red flags to be the 4th one taken.

I liked Baker and Sam about the same amount after Rosen, so I'm cool with this.

It's so great to me that people have such passionate opinions about PROSPECTS before they ever see the field. We'll know in a few years how the pick was.
 
OptimusPrime said:
Velocity at the combine means nothing. McCoy threw it 56, more than Russell Wilson (55). More than DeShone Kizer (52). Carson Wentz threw it 57. When you watch a football game, you can see who has an arm. Mayfield's never impressed me.
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watch again.

mayfield literally ranked as the single best QB this year in NFL-like throws.
 
alright you fuckers now that its official im going on record.

mayfield walked onto TTU and started

then he walked onto OU and started. After that he only finished in the top 3 heisman voting 3 times, including winning it once.

He may not start day one, but his first start is before the bye game and before the end of the season he has thrown for 300 yards at least once. 25 dollars to RCF.
 
:chuckle::chuckle: ya'll hated me...so many disagrees.

Easybreezy said:
One last thing for the night. I rewatched the presser from,what, 3 days ago from Dorsey just to see if he gave any clues or indifferent body language signs...nothing was really given but one thing he said when asked comparing what's easier to fix between Darnolds turnovers or Allen's accuracy and he, based on body signs and oculesics, truthfully stated what he looks for is " Does he Win? Does he have accuracy? Does he have a strong arm? Can he throw the ball in the red zone, in tight windows, and drive the ball? At the end of the game...does he win? That's what I look for".

-Well, all Have sufficient arms.
-All good Accuracy...besides Allen.
-All winning Records...Besides Rosen.
-Mayfield/OU . 12-2
-Darnold/USC. 11-3
-Rudolph/oSU. 10-3
-Allen/Wyoming. 8-5
-Jackson/Lou. 8-5
-Rosen/UCLA. 6-7

Had to dig for the Red zone/3rd down stats. But here they are. (Doesnt adjust for dropped balls and such, as well as does not include Rushing stats/td's)

Baker Mayfield...
3rd Down: 49/79 (62.0%); 645 yards; 4 TD & 3 INT; 139.74 rating
Red Zone: 41/58 (70.7%); 333 yards; 24 TD & 2 INT; 248.56 rating

Sam Darnold...
3rd Down: 64/109 (58.7%); 832 yards; 6 TD & 2 INT; 137.34 rating
Red Zone: 27/49 (55.1%); 270 yards; 15 TD & 1 INT; 198.32 rating

Josh Rosen...
3rd Down: 53/102 (52.0%); 715 yards; 4 TD & 3 INT; 117.90 rating
Red Zone: 32/67 (47.8%); 227 yards; 15 TD & 4 INT; 138.16 rating

Lamar Jackson...
3rd Down: 52/94 (55.3%); 785 yards; 4 TD & 5 INT; 128.87 rating
Red Zone: 21/47 (44.7%); 212 yards; 14 TD & 1 INT; 176.61 rating

Josh Allen...
3rd Down: 46/83 (55.4%); 469 yards; 3 TD & 2 INT; 110.00 rating
Red Zone: 16/33 (48.5%); 156 yards; 8 TD & 0 INT; 168.20 rating

Mason Rudolph...
3rd Down: 61/102 (59.8%); 852 yards; 9 TD & 1 INT; 157.13 rating
Red Zone: 34/68 (50.0%); 305 yards; 17 TD & 2 INT; 164.29 rating

1. I didn't even know 248.56 passer rating was possible.

2. Darnold doing what he is at 20 yrs old is impressive and is the only one besides Mayfield that truly checks every box. While being 6'4 220lb. I think he is the perfect "Collaboratory" pick if Hue and Haley need their big AFC north QB. While also being 2 years and 2 months younger than Mayfield. We'll see in 96 hours.

It's going to be Darnold or Mayfield. And as much as I do love Mayfield Right now... I do wonder what 2 years and 2 more months of development and NFL Schemes would look like on Darnold.
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Easybreezy said:
Alright. I'm Calling it Now. Baker is Going to be our pick. I already feel like I wrote a book the last few pages why. And the two main concerns for both are size and system. I feel most of us are over the size thing now.. so on to system.

Nick Fucking Foles just beat Tom Brady in the Superbowl...Doug Pederson is synonymous with the acronym RPO now. That's all you heard during the game was about Pedersons RPO offense. Since 2013, the run-pass option has taken off. “Pro-style” shouldn’t refer to formations, because NFL and college offenses are now perhaps as similar as they’ve ever been. Primarily Spread offenses with half of the NFL in gun 50% or more now.

Pederson has stated where he originally picked up on utilizing the run-pass option in 2013 with the Chiefs and Alex Smith, under GM good ole John Dorsey. Alex Smith, Rodgers, Dak, Cam Newton, Wentz, Dalton, Roethlisberger, all benefit from RPO.


Kinda funny because when you look at that list, our front office and those making the decision, have ties with 4 out of the top 5 teams. Todd Haley was asked about what "system" he uses when he came here and he stated he didn't have one, but instead would and will continue to build his offense and system around the talent he has and what best suits them as well. Hm.

I think we can all agree Mayfield knows how to Run a spread based RPO and counter RPO system...Damn good.


Maybe I've watched the movie "the number 23" too many times and trying to connect too many dots. But going with my gut an saying I truly have a feeling it's going to be Mayfield.
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Easybreezy said:
@Triplethreat we did it boo! :chuckle:
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This is for @Ohio

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bob2the2nd said:
alright you fuckers now that its official im going on record.

mayfield walked onto TTU and started

then he walked onto OU and started. After that he only finished in the top 3 heisman voting 3 times, including winning it once.

He may not start day one, but his first start is before the bye game and before the end of the season he has thrown for 300 yards at least once. 25 dollars to RCF.
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I really hope you’re right.
 
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