SOPA and Protect IP

[Backstage]

So explain to me how being for Sopa would make someone a troll? Clearly many companies are also for Sopa.

Doesn't it suck to have something that you worked hard to make be copyrighted and pirated? Sure pirating is good for the people who do it but it does hurt the companies that are trying to make money off of a product that they spent a lot of time and money making.

The premise for SOPA and PIPA being against pirating is fine. The vague wording of the bill and the potential for extreme censorship is not.

Odds are we've all pirated one way or another, but how often do we spend time not pirating on Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, or the like...and how quickly would those be snatched out from under us just because a bill meant for pirating is used for website destruction?

 

[Funny Man Rocco]

Sopa is the bill we deserve but it's not the bill we need right now.

The fuck?

 

[JDeezy]

So explain to me how being for Sopa would make someone a troll? Clearly many companies are also for Sopa.

That wasn't his premise, stop being a misleading troll.

Doesn't it suck to have something that you worked hard to make be copyrighted and pirated?

Is this really how you do be type?

Sure pirating is good for the people who do it but it does hurt the companies that are trying to make money off of a product that they spent a lot of time and money making.

I'll translate this from child-speak to English- Pirating media is beneficial to media pirates; Media piracy denies profit from the producers of such media.

Thank you for obfuscating an already widely well-understood situation.

 

[Man Called X]

So explain to me how being for Sopa would make someone a troll? Clearly many companies are also for Sopa.

Doesn't it suck to have something that you worked hard to make be copyrighted and pirated? Sure pirating is good for the people who do it but it does hurt the companies that are trying to make money off of a product that they spent a lot of time and money making.

Seeing as you just joined a basketball website to post about being for SOPA, yeah, that makes you a troll. I hope people realize that the NBA could have this website shut down because of SOPA, along with any other NBA forum not owned by them.

The whole point is piracy is going to happen. I don't care how hard you try to stop it, people will always steal.

The idea should be making piracy less inviting, by offering alternative ways to legally purchase the product. iTunes is really the only thing Apple has done that I agree with. I used to be a HUGE music pirate back in the day. Thanks to iTunes and Spotify, I have no reason to do such a thing anymore.

So question, which company/organization do you work for that sent you to this website?

 

[JDeezy]

One of doug's "black-hatters," perhaps?

 

[bigfoot5415]

If you watch the episode of south park where they talk about piracy, you wouldn't feel bad for any of these companies.

Instead of paying Brad Pitt 30 mil to do a movie, save that money and the 25 mil ad campaign and it will balance what you "lose from piracy". They've created these huge unnecessary budgets, and expect us to guarantee them a profit.

I can't say anything about the internet sites, not my area of interest.

 

[JDeezy]

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[KB]

3/4 of those companies have literally no reason to be backing SOPA other than they want the ability to get websites taken down.

As for SOPA being the bill we deserve? What the fuck are you talking about? We deserve to be censored on the internet? GTFO. Can someone ban this idiot please? He's an obvious troll.

The shady thing about some of the companies that are coming out against is that they are still allowing themselves to support SOPA/PIPA through the ESA who is one of the biggest backers of leglistaion.

So in a sense the companies that are coming out against this legislation that allow themselves to be represented by the ESA are stradling the fence so they don't have the back lash from their customer base that companies like GoDaddy received.

So explain to me how being for Sopa would make someone a troll? Clearly many companies are also for Sopa.

Doesn't it suck to have something that you worked hard to make be copyrighted and pirated? Sure pirating is good for the people who do it but it does hurt the companies that are trying to make money off of a product that they spent a lot of time and money making.

Stating that beng for SOPA /PIPA in it's present form either means you have not read the legislation or you are a troll

No one is saying companies shouldn't have the right to protect their IP's but that the rights of indviudals should not be infringed in the process of this protection.

Also the amount of money spent fighiting piracy (250 million $ in lobbying alone) would have been better spent by these companies starting digital distrobution services to make access to content eaiser as well as cheaper (think iTunes for video)

Legislation like this would kill the nternet in it's present form, especially if they go after the way DNS works then DNS SEC would become obsolete in a sense. It would be akin to taking the wheels off a car and trying to drive it.

To put this in prespective for some people here:
With the content that goes up on RCF at times I wouldn't be surprised if RCF had problems staying operational if this kind of legislation passes due to the large amount of youtube linkes, especially in the offical music threads or even highlights of NBA games. Could you imagine going to jail for sharing a video link of that sick cross over move Kyrie had earlier this year? (the offical music threads would be the first deleted threads by Ben/Karma followed shortly by the game stream threads)

In the large scheme of the things when we have things like this happening to a link hosting site, no videos or streams hosted, ONLY LINKS and it's ground to have some one extradidted from another country when the site is also hosted in that other country we have problems. The below incident doesn't seem like it should be something that costs someone 10 years of their life (some rapists don't even get that much time in jail)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...es-extradition-case-over-TVShack-website.html

'Piracy' student Richard O'Dwyer loses extradition case over TVShack website

The 23-year-old Sheffield Hallam University student faces up to 10 years in a US federal prison for operating TVShack which US authorities say hosts links to pirated and copyrighted video content.

That doesn't even begin to talk about Megaupload (Hong Kong based company) going down to do and the majority of their staff being indited on charges (this is happening without SOPA/PIPA even being law yet so if these things are already happening why do we need more laws to do the same things?

http://techland.time.com/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-megaupload-com-file-sharing-website/

Feds Shut Down Megaupload.com File-Sharing Website

McLEAN, Va. (AP) — One of the world’s largest file-sharing sites was shut down Thursday, and its founder and several company executives were charged with violating piracy laws, federal prosecutors said.

An indictment accuses Megaupload.com of costing copyright holders more than $500 million in lost revenue from pirated films and other content. The indictment was unsealed one day after websites including Wikipedia and Craigslist shut down in protest of two congressional proposals intended to thwart online piracy.

The Justice Department said in a statement said that Kim Dotcom, formerly known as Kim Schmitz, and three others were arrested Thursday in New Zealand at the request of U.S. officials. Two other defendants are at large.

Megaupload was unique not only because of its massive size and the volume of downloaded content, but also because it had high-profile support from celebrities, musicians and other content producers who are most often the victims of copyright infringement and piracy. Before the website was taken down, it contained endorsements from Kim Kardashian, Alicia Keys and Kanye West, among others.

 

[BiggestNoobEver]

 

[Man Called X]

Yup, troll.

 

[Ren]

Megaupload was shut down by the U.S. Government today.

MegaUpload, one of the largest file-sharing sites on the Internet, has been shut down by federal prosecutors in Virginia. The site’s founder Kim Dotcom and three others were arrested by the police in New Zealand at the request of US authorities. MegaVideo, the streaming site belonging to same company, and a total of 18 domains connected to the Mega company were seized and datacenters in three countries raided.

megauploadJust a few weeks ago, MegaUpload founder Kim Dotcom told TorrentFreak that his Mega ventures have nothing to worry about, as they operate within the rules of the law.

“Mega has nothing to fear. Our business is legitimate and protected by the DMCA and similar laws around the world. We work with the best lawyers and play by the rules.

“We take our legal obligations seriously. Mega’s war chest is full and we have strong supporters backing us,” Dotcom said.

But behind the scenes powerful forces were at work, plotting the forceful demise of MegaUpload, one of the world’s biggest websites.

An indictment unsealed today by the Department of Justice claims that MegaUpload has caused the entertainment industries more than $500 million in lost revenue and generated $175 million “in criminal proceeds.”

Two corporations – Megaupload Limited and Vestor Limited – were indicted by a grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia on January 5th, 2012, and charged with “engaging in a racketeering conspiracy, conspiring to commit copyright infringement, conspiring to commit money laundering and two substantive counts of criminal copyright infringement.”

Today, the authorities executed in excess of 20 search warrants in the United States and eight other countries.

Data centers in the Netherlands, Canada and Washington housing MegaUpload’s equipment were raided. In an apparent reference to the latter location, a source has just informed TorrentFreak that the FBI are currently detaining everyone at the ISP Cogent Communications’ headquarters in Washington DC, in connection with a Mega-related search warrant.

In addition to MegaUpload founder Kim Dotcom who was arrested today in New Zealand, another six alleged members of the Mega “conspiracy” were charged in the indictment:

- Finn Batato, 38, Mega’s chief marketing officer and a citizen and resident of Germany
- Julius Bencko, 35, Mega’s graphic designer from Slovakia
- Sven Echternach, 39,Mega’s German head of business development;
- Mathias Ortmann, 40, the German CTO, co-founder and director of Mega
- Andrus Nomm, 32, programmer and head of the development from Estonia
- Bram van der Kolk, 29, a Dutch citizen who oversaw programming and network issues.

Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and van der Kolk were arrested today in Auckland, New Zealand, by authorities there. Bencko, Echternach and Nomm are still at large.

The authorities seized approximately $50 million in assets, which appears to include Kim Dotcom’s treasured collection of several dozen cars, as detailed below.

Megacars

A total of 18 Mega-related domains were also seized by authorities including Megastuff.co, Megaworld.com, Megaclicks.co, Megastuff.info, Megaclicks.org, Megaworld.mobi, Megastuff.org, Megaclick.us, Mageclick.com, HDmegaporn.com, Megavkdeo.com, Megaupload.com, Megaupload.org, Megarotic.com, Megaclick.com, Megavideo.com, Megavideoclips.com and Megaporn.com.

According to the Department of Justice, the individuals named in the indictment face a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison on the charge of conspiracy to commit racketeering, five years in prison on the charge of conspiracy to commit copyright infringement, 20 years in prison on the charge of conspiracy to commit money laundering and five years in prison on each of the substantive charges of criminal copyright infringement.

The legal action against Mega will set a precedent for similar cloud-hosting services. The MegaUpload site itself had no search function to discover content directly, but according to the indictment this was done to “conceal the scope of its infringement.” Would the same be true for services such as Dropbox?

http://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-shut-down-120119/

 

[polska2211]

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...r_megaupload_shutdown_attacks_doj_others.html

he hacker group Anonymous is claiming responsibility for attacks that have taken down websites run by Universal Music, the U.S. Department of Justice and the Recording Industry Association of America in retaliation for the government's removal of the Megaupload websites.

"The government takes down Megaupload? 15 minutes later Anonymous takes down government and record label sites," the Anonymous Twitter feed read.

That note was followed shortly by this one: "Megaupload was taken down w/out SOPA being law. Now imagine what will happen if it passes. The Internet as we know it will end. FIGHT BACK." The tweet referred to the Stop Online Piracy Act, an Internet piracy bill being considered in the U.S. Congress.

Megaupload.com distributed a variety of digital content, including music and movies. On Thursday, the U.S. DOJ announced that it had charged seven people who allegedly were affiliated with the site with running an organized criminal enterprise responsible for worldwide online piracy of copyrighted content. The DOJ worked with authorities in New Zealand, who arrested four of the seven people.

Megaupload.com is no longer accessible.

The action happened just a day after thousands of websites went dark in protest of bills before Congress, including SOPA, that would make it easier for authorities to force ISPs (Internet service providers) to block people in the U.S. from accessing foreign websites accused of offering pirated content. Opponents say the bills would let law enforcement shut down entire websites before the sites have been found by a court to infringe copyright.

By mid-afternoon, the people behind the Anonymous Twitter account had claimed responsibility for attacks affecting sites for the DOJ, RIAA, Universal Music, the U.S. Copyright Office, Broadcast Music Inc. and the Motion Picture Association of America. They said the FBI website was on its target list, although that site remained operational midday on the West Coast.

this is going to be big.

 

[Man Called X]

And you idiots mocked me when I said that ANON wasn't a group to fuck with. And yeah, they did take down the FBI website for a period of time.

 

[KB]

And you idiots mocked me when I said that ANON wasn't a group to fuck with. And yeah, they did take down the FBI website for a period of time.

It's like the Colbert qoute about the HB Gary Guy
"Anon is like a hornets nest, he saw that nest and said to himself I'm going to stick my penis in it"

The thing with ANON is you never know which group your going to get

You either get and I qoute from ANON boards the "moralfags"

or

The ones that do it for the lulz

The reason your don't wan to set them on a crusade is that when those 2 groups combine forces towards the same goal things like the HB Gary hack happen (also they supposedly have a bunch of info that includes names, address, bank acccounts, phone numbers, ect.. all on a world wide pedo ring that is supposed to drop sometime in the next few months, if it hasn't already, supposed to have some house hold names in it. I will believe it when I see the evidence though)

 

[Man Called X]

It's like the Colbert qoute about the HB Gary Guy
"Anon is like a hornets nest, he saw that nest and said to himself I'm going to stick my penis in it"

The thing with ANON is you never know which group your going to get

You either get and I qoute from ANON boards the "moralfags"

or

The ones that do it for the lulz

The reason your don't wan to set them on a crusade is that when those 2 groups combine forces towards the same goal things like the HB Gary hack happen (also they supposedly have a bunch of info that includes names, address, bank acccounts, phone numbers, ect.. all on a pedo ring that is supposed to drop sometime in the next few months, if it hasn't already, supposed to have some house hold names in it. I will believe it when I see the evidence though)

Yup, shit's going to hit the fans now. It's rare that both segments get involved. Hell, word is some OOOOOOLLLLLDDDDD Anon have come out of the woodwork for this one.