Star Wars: The Force Awakens teaser #2

[gourimoko]

No, rather than slowly wading through water, they should've had the robot carry Anne Hathaway to the debris. Later in that very same scene, they show the robot carrying AH way faster than she walked. Carrying her out there would've saved at least a couple minutes (in that planets time, so months in Earth time), plus they get off the planet before the waves flood the engine, saving how many ever years.

Not that I disagree with you, but I don't see this as a plot hole.

Finding errors in judgement and logic, especially when the protagonist calls many of these decisions errors in judgement, doesn't denote a "plot hole."

But in their defense.. They had no idea the beacon was underwater. They had no idea the planet was a shallow ocean, and they had no idea the wave was coming. They also didn't expect a catastrophic event to happen in the next few minutes.

 

[col63onel]

Not that I disagree with you, but I don't see this as a plot hole.

Finding errors in judgement and logic, especially when the protagonist calls many of these decisions errors in judgement, doesn't denote a "plot hole."

But in their defense.. They had no idea the beacon was underwater. They had no idea the planet was a shallow ocean, and they had no idea the wave was coming. They also didn't expect a catastrophic event to happen in the next few minutes.

I tend to group plot holes, plot conveniences and characters doing dumb things just so the plot can happen under the umbrella of "plot hole".

They didn't know any of those things, but the movie went to painstaking efforts to talk about how much time was being "wasted", then shows the characters walking instead of having the robot move them 4x faster.

 

[gourimoko]

I tend to group plot holes, plot conveniences and characters doing dumb things just so the plot can happen under the umbrella of "plot hole".

They didn't know any of those things, but the movie went to painstaking efforts to talk about how much time was being "wasted", then shows the characters walking instead of having the robot move them 4x faster.

Because the robot was also looking, like they were, for clues as to where Dr. Miller was.

Dr. Brand simply stumbled upon the beacon; it wasn't like they had a completely fixed position and just needed to run out there and grab it.

They completely expected to find Dr. Miller there waiting for them since, from their perspective, the last signal would've come less than an hour from their arrival. Keep in mind, it's very likely that the wave Cooper sees receding from the ship is the same wave that killed Dr. Miller.

 

[Expensive Jet]

I have yet to see any Star Wars movie and I'm going to watch them before this comes out. It seems like everybody has seen them yet for the life of me I can't get an answer to what order I should watch them. Should I start with the original 3 then the prequel?

 

[col63onel]

I have yet to see any Star Wars movie and I'm going to watch them before this comes out. It seems like everybody has seen them yet for the life of me I can't get an answer to what order I should watch them. Should I start with the original 3 then the prequel?

I'd watch the original 3, then read the plot synopsis on wikipedia for the prequel.

Except youtube the lightsaber battles of the prequel.

 

[gourimoko]

I have yet to see any Star Wars movie and I'm going to watch them before this comes out. It seems like everybody has seen them yet for the life of me I can't get an answer to what order I should watch them. Should I start with the original 3 then the prequel?

I introduced my wife to the Star Wars movies...

I'd honestly say it depends on who you are. If you're younger or prefer newer looking movies, you might actually prefer the prequels -- there's a small amount of fans, usually younger folks, who do.

If, instead, you don't mind watching a movie from the early 80's, then you should watch the originals first, then the prequels.

I personally find the prequels to be abhorrent but the women I've introduced these movies to generally prefer them.

 

[Chris]

Tough crowd. I see I won't be able to post in this thread without getting into a patented 10,000 word quote war, so I'll just say...I'm cautiously optimistic about these movies. Looks really good.

 

[gourimoko]

Tough crowd. I see I won't be able to post in this thread without getting into a patented 10,000 word quote war, so I'll just say...I'm cautiously optimistic about these movies. Looks really good.

Trademark was approved last week....

 

[spydy13]

I have yet to see any Star Wars movie and I'm going to watch them before this comes out. It seems like everybody has seen them yet for the life of me I can't get an answer to what order I should watch them. Should I start with the original 3 then the prequel?

4,5,1,2,3,6 is another interesting way to watch.

 

[spydy13]

4,5,1,2,3,6 is another interesting way to watch.

Why's this funny @gourimoko?

You build up the Darth, show his back story, then get the redemption story. The changes at the end of Jedi make more sense too.

 

[gourimoko]

Why's this funny @gourimoko?

You build up the Darth, show his back story, then get the redemption story. The changes at the end of Jedi make more sense too.

I... thought you were just fucking around. You're serious though?

Hell nah... I mean, I guess.... I get what you're saying.

 

[spydy13]

I... thought you were just fucking around. You're serious though?

Hell nah... I mean, I guess.... I get what you're saying.

I can't take credit for it. I saw this order suggested a few years back (i think when the blurays came out iirc).

I tried it and it actually kind of makes sense thematically.

It also gives you a carrot in Jedi to get through the poop that is the prequels.

 

[Sebastian]

It's not arguing semantics, it's quoting the creator, writer, and the director...

Lucas described a "used future" concept to the production designers in which all devices, ships, and buildings looked aged and dirty.[9][46][47] Instead of following the traditional sleekness and futuristic architecture of science fiction films that came before, the Star Wars sets were designed to look inhabited and used.

Barry said that the director "wants to make it look like its shot on location on your average everyday Death Star or Mos Eisly Spaceport or local cantina." Lucas believed that "what is required for true credibility is a used future", opposing the interpretation of "future in most futurist movies" that "always looks new and clean and shiny."[44]

Christian supported Lucas's vision, saying "All science fiction before was very plastic and stupid uniforms and Flash Gordon stuff. Nothing was new. George was going right against that."[45]

X is completely right in this... and this was reversed for the sequel trilogy to give a completely different look and feel - for contrast.

And no, the space battles weren't intended to be "shiny."

I don't want to argue semantics, but let's not completely make stuff up and change what George Lucas himself has said.

Don't you think that Lucas went away from that somewhat in the Prequels?

I tend to think the used future in the OT was a direct consequence of the decay, both moral and physical, that the Empire and the ascendency of the Dark Side brought to the galaxy.

Or, from another point of view, it is a function of the class and status of the protagonists in both sets of movies. Whereas the PT focused on elites like Anakin, Padme, Palpatine and other royals and Viceroys, where everything was polished and top of the line, the OT followed a bunch of intergalactic misfits (with the exception of Leia) scrapping out an existence on the fringes of civilized space.

What would a post-Empire galaxy look like? Different I think, rougher in some areas and probably nicer in the Imperial Remnant and on Coruscant where the collapse of Imperial control and regulation has fostered rampant capitalism and the rise of a new class of robber barons.

 

[Ohio]

Tough crowd. I see I won't be able to post in this thread without getting into a patented 10,000 word quote war, so I'll just say...I'm cautiously optimistic about these movies. Looks really good.

Yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward to it for sure.

 

[Chris]

The fuck is this socio economic analysis of star wars bullshit.

Give me lightsabers and blasters and a millennium FALLKUN (not falcon, assholes) and lets do this. Star Wars is space opera not Citizen Kane.