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Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets / T-Mac to Knicks

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Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

Houston looks terrible at PF and C now this season.

Scola, Hayes, Andersen, Armstrong, and Kenny Thomas

That may be the worst in the league.


Scola and Hayes aren't HORRIBLE, but I agree, they are incredibly thin...


Also, I think it's about time you change your status. ;)
 
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Ric Bucher:

If Sac and Hou can pull Knicks into 3-team deal, Sergio Rodriguez + TMac would go to NY, a source says. Told Sac-Hou two-way deal not done.
 
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WojYahooNBA

Two league sources tell Y! Sports that Kings are unsure whether they will keep T-Mac, or move him onto Knicks in a deal before deadline.

:mad:

Good Night!
 
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didn't see this posted yet, granted it's Mark Stein and ESPN, only place I've seen that is still talking about the Knicks getting in on this deal
that I've seen.

Edit:
Hadn't seen the post by TAS yet

The New York Knicks and Houston Rockets continue to work on a Tracy McGrady trade in advance of Thursday's 3 p.m. trading deadline, with three sources close to the process insisting late Wednesday that the trade can still be consummated in time even though the sides have clashed on some of the final parameters.

"I'm pretty confident," one source said Wednesday night.

Sources say the Knicks are also increasingly interested in swinging a separate deal with the Chicago Bulls before the deadline that would send out Al Harrington in exchange for Tyrus Thomas and the expiring contract of former Knicks center Jerome James.

After Houston had narrowed the McGrady field Tuesday to the Knicks and Bulls as the only destinations for the disgruntled two-time scoring champion, Chicago began moving in different directions with its trade assets as Wednesday wore on. Sources say that the Rockets' trade energies were thus focused on trying to reach a consensus with the Knicks on the draft considerations needed to clinch an agreement without the involvement of a third team.

"I'm hopeful," Knicks president Donnie Walsh said. "It's a matter of trying to a fair deal for your franchise and a fair deal for the other franchise."

In exchange for taking back the Knicks' Jared Jeffries -- whose contract will pay as much as $7.6 million next season once a trade kicker is applied -- Houston is seeking three assets: New York's 2012 first-round pick, the right to swap first-round picks with the Knicks in the 2011 draft and Knicks rookie Jordan Hill.

Yet sources say New York balked Wednesday, even though shedding Jeffries' contract would enable the Knicks to sign two top-tier free agents this summer. The Knicks, sources said, have conveyed to the Rockets that they're only willing to package two of those assets along with Jeffries and the $13.7 million expiring contract of Larry Hughes for McGrady's own expiring deal valued at $22.5 million.

Sources say the Knicks also want 1-to-10 lottery protection on any draft pick it surrenders to the Rockets, while Houston is pushing for the 2012 pick to be fully unprotected.

"We'd like McGrady and the cap relief," one Knicks source told ESPN.com's Chad Ford on Wednesday. "But the Rockets are asking for too much. We're willing to pay a premium to make a deal. But the price right now is still too high."

The Bulls' re-entrance in McGrady talks, meanwhile, is considered unlikely even though Houston remains open to the possibility, after Chicago struck a deal with Milwaukee involving guard John Salmons.

The Bulls pulled Salmons out of Wednesday's game in New York because of a pending trade that will send Salmons to the Bucks for two expiring contracts. ESPN.com's Chad Ford reported that the Bulls would get Kurt Thomas and Francisco Elson, while the Chicago Tribune reported that they could receive those two or Hakim Warrick and Joe Alexander. Chicago has also had increasingly serious discussions with the Knicks on the Ty Thomas-for-Harrington front; Salmons and Thomas were both part of the Bulls' most recent McGrady offers.

Finding a home for Salmons' $5.8 million salary next season was huge for the Bulls, since it will give them sufficient salary-cap space to bid for a top-tier free agent to pair with All-Star guard Derrick Rose -- along with teams such as New York, Miami, New Jersey and the Los Angeles Clippers, who joined that enviable club by shedding the contracts of Al Thornton and Sebastian Telfair in a three-way trade earlier Wednesday that landed Antawn Jamison in Cleveland.

But Chicago has been shopping Thomas for weeks and is still intent on moving him, sources say, although the Bulls have been hoping to score at least one first-round pick for the enigmatic power forward.

The Knicks have offered the requisite expiring contract in Harrington -- who can also give the Bulls offense a jolt -- but are not offering draft considerations in a Thomas deal, sources said.

Senior writer Marc Stein covers the NBA for ESPN.com. ESPN NBA Insider Chris Sheridan contributed to this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4923451
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

WojYahooNBA

If T-Mac gets buy out with Kings, he privately hopes to sign with Lakers or Cavaliers for the playoffs, source close to him tells




How would the lakers sign him without any exceptions? The cavs would have to split the BAE between Z and Tmac?
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

Houston looks terrible at PF and C now this season.

Scola, Hayes, Andersen, Armstrong, and Kenny Thomas

That may be the worst in the league.
They need to move Kenny Thomas or they're absolutely fucked this year.

If they actually move him for a decent big they could be dangerous....if not - lol.

edit: T-Mac to the Cavs WAT? I'd LOVE for Z and T-Mac to split the BAE. Love.
 
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They need to move Kenny Thomas or they're absolutely fucked this year.

If they actually move him for a decent big they could be dangerous....if not - lol.

edit: T-Mac to the Cavs WAT? I'd LOVE for Z and T-Mac to split the BAE. Love.

Unless they make a move for a big, only thing I can see for Houston is that they are gearing up more for next year when/if Yao returns.
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

WojYahooNBA

If T-Mac gets buy out with Kings, he privately hopes to sign with Lakers or Cavaliers for the playoffs, source close to him tells




How would the lakers sign him without any exceptions? The cavs would have to split the BAE between Z and Tmac?


They can sign him to the league minimum. I imagine that's what the Cavs would do, if they wanted him.
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

Unless they make a move for a big, only thing I can see for Houston is that they are gearing up more for next year when/if Yao returns.
Yeah but that's very risky. Relying on two major injury prone players is a bad idea.

If they won't be players in FA, moving him is a no-brainer.
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

Sidenote - Landry will probably start for the kings.....

which by the end of this season should make AV the frontrunner for 6th man of the year

~Lyuokdea
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

Kmart being traded makes my fantasy team with him and reke amazing.
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

Sidenote - Landry will probably start for the kings.....

which by the end of this season should make AV the frontrunner for 6th man of the year

~Lyuokdea

Crawford would still get it over AV.
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

Got this off a Rockets forum:

...league sources told FOX 26 this trade could grow to a much larger deal that could move McGrady to the New York Knicks as part of a three-team trade.

If that is the case Dorsey would be moved to the Knicks and the Rockets would get forward Jordan Hill from New York.
 
Re: Stein: Kevin Martin to Rockets

The Knicks are so dumb. They want to get a little more cap relief so they can get 2 max FA's. Yet they are having to send out all of their young talent to get it done. If they ship out Hill, they have Gallinari as their only young talent.

IF LeBron and Wade actually wanted to play together, it makes a lot more sense for them to join up in Miami and play with Beasley. Beasley >>> Gallinari
 
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God I love NY.
 

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