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Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

I'm pretty sure that you're onto something. By buying an NBA team, he signed into a contract which allows a 75% of owners to kick him out of ownership. He's going to lose this battle in the end. If he tries giving the team to anyone in his family in an attempt to keep the team in a way, the players will very likely not play.

No, he joined an organization that allows 75% to kick him out under certain circumstances. There is no clause that just says if 75% of the owners vote you out, you're out.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

No, he joined an organization that allows 75% to kick him out under certain circumstances. There is no clause that just says if 75% of the owners vote you out, you're out.

Of course. That's what I meant.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

I'm pretty sure that you're onto something. By buying an NBA team, he signed into a contract which allows a 75% of owners to kick him out of ownership. He's going to lose this battle in the end. If he tries giving the team to anyone in his family in an attempt to keep the team in a way, the players will very likely not play.

He will likely be dead long before any court settlement is reached at that point his heir will receive the franchise. You can't force him/her to sell so all that wasted money in court costs will be just that. If sterling really wants to fight this to the death, that is exactly what he will do.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

He will likely be dead long before any court settlement is reached at that point his heir will receive the franchise. You can't force him/her to sell so all that wasted money in court costs will be just that. If sterling really wants to fight this to the death, that is exactly what he will do.

Pun intended?
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

I'm pretty sure that you're onto something. By buying an NBA team, he signed into a contract which allows a 75% of owners to kick him out of ownership. He's going to lose this battle in the end. If he tries giving the team to anyone in his family in an attempt to keep the team in a way, the players will very likely not play.

So what is the downside to Donald Sterling to make the legal process painful? His reputation currently is somewhere above richard nixon and OJ Simpson, and somewhere below Art Modell...( Cleveland Sample only). He is 81 and has the money. Can anyone see a path where he rehabs his image? I can see them trying ( he is fighting cancer, he is jewish) but it will not be enough..

There is a legal case against his 'archivist', and then there is a civil case to follow even if she dodges the criminal case. I think his wife can demonstrate real damages and claim all assets of the girlfriend including the movie or book rights.

There will be an NBA case as well. He may or may not win such, but it is the type of case that can wind up in the supreme court. it has unique elements that are all constitutional. Free Speech, Privacy, Discrimination, Civil Rights, Anti Trust, Labor Law.. In the end the courts are going to have to draw the boundaries between all of these things. If the NBA really wants to protect the league, thier best interest is to settle it quickly and quietly.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

So what is the downside to Donald Sterling to make the legal process painful? His reputation currently is somewhere above richard nixon and OJ Simpson, and somewhere below Art Modell...( Cleveland Sample only). He is 81 and has the money. Can anyone see a path where he rehabs his image? I can see them trying ( he is fighting cancer, he is jewish) but it will not be enough..

There is a legal case against his 'archivist', and then there is a civil case to follow even if she dodges the criminal case. I think his wife can demonstrate real damages and claim all assets of the girlfriend including the movie or book rights.

There will be an NBA case as well. He may or may not win such, but it is the type of case that can wind up in the supreme court. it has unique elements that are all constitutional. Free Speech, Privacy, Discrimination, Civil Rights, Anti Trust, Labor Law.. In the end the courts are going to have to draw the boundaries between all of these things. If the NBA really wants to protect the league, thier best interest is to settle it quickly and quietly.

We are really comparing him to OJ, who most likely killed a guy and at the very worst is in jail for armed robbery?

I wish people understood that in this country you can contract for just about anything. There are very few things that if you stuck into a contract a court would just ignore. If you join an organization that has as part of its charter/constitution the ability to take away your property it is not unlawful. You joined it. You contracted for it. You are bound by your decisions.

Now, I'm not sure the NBA constitution actually gives the owners this power, but they think it does. The meaning of the terms found in the various clauses is what's going to be litigated over. But I keep seeing "property rights" and it just has no place in this discussion.

Still nothing has happened to Shaq which clearly shows the NBA is on a witch hunt for Sterling. His lawyers can play off of this to show that the NBA was directly targeting him to lose his team. It's also OK an owner in Orlando donates to several anti-homosexual organizations.

He can also show that players aren't held to the same standards with players punching fans, bringing guns into the arena and a load of domestic violence cases. What's worse, a player beating the shit out of a girlfriend/wife or Donald Sterling saying choice words that ultimately never really hurt anyone?
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

We are really comparing him to OJ, who most likely killed a guy and at the very worst is in jail for armed robbery?



Still nothing has happened to Shaq which clearly shows the NBA is on a witch hunt for Sterling. His lawyers can play off of this to show that the NBA was directly targeting him to lose his team. It's also OK an owner in Orlando donates to several anti-homosexual organizations.

He can also show that players aren't held to the same standards with players punching fans, bringing guns into the arena and a load of domestic violence cases. What's worse, a player beating the shit out of a girlfriend/wife or Donald Sterling saying choice words that ultimately never really hurt anyone?


Well, Donald Sterling's comments were going to cost the NBA way more money. Considering that's all the NBA really cares about, Sterling's stuff was worse. For the most part, the NBA doesn't care what you do as long as you're making them money.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

Hey cafemerald...

No punishment for Shaq.

How do you feel about the NBA right now?
 
So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

People are still going on about the Shaq thing? As far as I can tell, Shaq doesn't actually harbor any hateful thoughts towards disabled people. Shaq's crime is being distasteful from a lapse in judgement in trying to entertain his Twitter followers. Sterling is consciously discriminating against an entire race of people.

The situations could not be any more different.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

Sterling shouldn't be forced to sell his team, but he will be forced to sell his team. The owners will vote in favor of it, since there's too big a risk of the consequences of not voting that way. Also, if he maintains ownership, there's too big of a risk to the value of his team. This isn't exactly a witch hunt, it's just now there's this irrefutable proof that he's an intolerant prick, which anyone involved with the sport knew all along. Now's the chess game to force his hand one way or another, and his leverage is gone.

Is it fair? I don't think that's the question at hand. It has elements of fairness and elements of unfairness, but it's fair in the public opinion and the players' opinions, so what else is there to know? It sounds like calls were made and games were almost boycotted(!), and the show must go on, so...
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

The ownership vote should be removed from the constitution. Simply immoral to force a sale. I would of liked to see the boycott. It should be the fans and players who decide Sterling's fate, not the owners. If they don't want him no one will play for him and no one will go to his games. Sterling would have no one to sue. With the nba's action sterling is in a position of strength with plenty of lawsuits floating around in his head.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

People are still going on about the Shaq thing? As far as I can tell, Shaq doesn't actually harbor any hateful thoughts towards disabled people. Shaq's crime is being distasteful from a lapse in judgement in trying to entertain his Twitter followers. Sterling is consciously discriminating against an entire race of people.

The situations could not be any more different.

Him not being punished at all is a travesty whether the situations are different or not.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

Ban Larry Johnson
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

Sterling shouldn't be forced to sell his team, but he will be forced to sell his team. The owners will vote in favor of it, since there's too big a risk of the consequences of not voting that way. Also, if he maintains ownership, there's too big of a risk to the value of his team. This isn't exactly a witch hunt, it's just now there's this irrefutable proof that he's an intolerant prick, which anyone involved with the sport knew all along. Now's the chess game to force his hand one way or another, and his leverage is gone.

Is it fair? I don't think that's the question at hand. It has elements of fairness and elements of unfairness, but it's fair in the public opinion and the players' opinions, so what else is there to know? It sounds like calls were made and games were almost boycotted(!), and the show must go on, so...

Cuban and Sterling will both vote no. Cuban already is on record saying that's a slippery slope. They just need to find 6 others who will vote no.
 
Re: So Clippers owner Donald Sterling is extremely racist

Voice: to answer your question directly, in terms of an image disaster, yes I am comparing him to OJ, and saying he is only a little better off. Regardless of what actually happened, most people think OJ knifed both his exwife and the guy she was with.

My point is that I see no reason sterling makes this easy. And there is plenty of red meat for the legal beagles on this one. It will be a real shit show in any case.

I think
 

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