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The Lebron Safari 2014™

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Would you welcome LBJ back?

  • Not a chance

    Votes: 231 27.5%
  • Sure, everyone deserves a second chance

    Votes: 435 51.7%
  • Not at first, but would warm to it

    Votes: 180 21.4%
  • Only if its in a year past 2014

    Votes: 17 2.0%

  • Total voters
    841
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Re: The guy who wears #6 in Miami

What did their big 3 miss, like 15 games total last year? Everything played out perfectly for them and they still fell short. Like stated above, its not going to be as easy next season.
Perfectly? lol, their second most important big was out almost the entire season and Miller missed tons of time too and was never able to get in a rhythm.

It's just funny how everyone always has some sort of "excuse" as to why they won't win. This year it was about them having no depth and no center....yet they still made the Finals, which is a pretty successful season all things considered.

Now I guess it's the "oh the big 3 were so healthy, won't happen again!!" excuse. But then they'll go on to sign a center and maybe other bigs and probably make the Finals again next year if there is a season.

hatersgonnahate.jpg I guess.

I still can't believe 2 guys as good as basketball as Wade and LeBron can know so little about the game. How could they think those 2 together would work? Great teams and duos, trios etc, all have one thing in common; they are greater together than the sum of their individual parts. Well these two negate eachothers' talents and are worse together.

While I 100% believe the superteam/friends thing is ruining the game, and LeBron is still the best individual player in the world, I cannot understand why Riley would not deal LeBron for Dwight and create possibly one of the best teams of all time.
Not sure why you'd say Riley would not deal LeBron for Dwight. Of course he's not going to come out and admit it publicly now, but if the deal were on the table...well, lets see what he'd do then.

Though it doesn't really matter anyway because the deal won't be on the table as the Magic would never do it for obvious reasons.
 
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Hallelujah:

This I believe: Someone someday will win it all for Cleveland, and the town will bust a nut so fine and rich that the grin will never flee its face. I may not live to see that, but just last night I listened to Tom Hamilton calling Travis Hafner's walk-off grand slam, and Hammy went silent for a full 15 seconds — a radio eternity — while the roar of Cleveland fans filled my soul with jubilation. I love that noise like life itself, far more than I hate the Whore of Akron.
 
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Perfectly? lol, their second most important big was out almost the entire season and Miller missed tons of time too and was never able to get in a rhythm.

It's just funny how everyone always has some sort of "excuse" as to why they won't win. This year it was about them having no depth and no center....yet they still made the Finals, which is a pretty successful season all things considered.

Now I guess it's the "oh the big 3 were so healthy, won't happen again!!" excuse. But then they'll go on to sign a center and maybe other bigs and probably make the Finals again next year if there is a season.

hatersgonnahate.jpg I guess.

He's not hatin' he's stating the obvious. According to most, Lebron played with 4 scrubs (one the floor) while in Cleveland. Why couldn't he win it all with the #1 or #2 dude in the league and a top 10 big man? Everyone that really mattered was healthy. How will their team do if any of them have a significant injury come playoff time? Besides role players that score 10 ppg getting injuried, what real conflict did they face? This was a good oppurtunity for them and Lebron choked. The MLE may be gone in the next CBA, what quality centers are going to sign there for the mini? Any role player that the Heat get would be more defensive minded because if you play in MIA you ain't getting the ball.
 
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They also dismiss or fail to recognize the value of fundamentals and teamwork displayed by Dallas and the impact it will have on alot of younger players in the league. It will be a different league

That's also the key for the Heat. Boston putting together a championship run based around a 1 year rebuild was unexpected and unprecedented. They pulled it off by building chemistry before the season, putting their systems in place early on, and then perfecting them throughout the season and even the post-season.

The Heat did pretty darn well considering all the ways they didn't manage to emulate the C's.

If they can straighten those things out (chemistry, roles, end game execution), add some of the parts they just couldn't add last season, and of course stay reasonably healthy then they're going to get a lot better.

Of course if not for the lockout, other teams would be making moves to improve as well...
 
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Triumph is 100% right. Miami is only gonna get better. They had little depth, a ton of outside distractions, and one year to gel together. With all that drama, they still made the finals. They are only going to get better once the ring chasers come around. Only thing that can slow them dowm is the CBA taking away the MLE.
 
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Triumph is 100% right. Miami is only gonna get better. They had little depth, a ton of outside distractions, and one year to gel together. With all that drama, they still made the finals. They are only going to get better once the ring chasers come around. Only thing that can slow them dowm is the CBA taking away the MLE.

So can a hard cap. Both items combined could very well do more then slow them down. It could very well cripple them from making moves to improve that roster. Maybe, even make things worse. Let's see the final outcome of the CBA before we go and anoint them the next champs. They are already 0-1 trying to do that themselves.
 
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I hear ya. You know they are going to be looking for a center. But its going to be hard to get anyone that good. They are kdding themselves if they think Dalembert will take a pay cut to go there.
 
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I guess that Chicago isn't gonna be a team to be reckoned with in the East and OKC is not going to get better with a full year and hopefully healed Perkins in the West. It might be somewhat of a cakewalk in the East, but by no means it will equal championship. They aren't magically going to become Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. They (Wade and Lebron) control the ball 50% of the time each. They aren't turning into shooters.
 
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He's not hatin' he's stating the obvious. According to most, Lebron played with 4 scrubs (one the floor) while in Cleveland. Why couldn't he win it all with the #1 or #2 dude in the league and a top 10 big man? Everyone that really mattered was healthy. How will their team do if any of them have a significant injury come playoff time? Besides role players that score 10 ppg getting injuried, what real conflict did they face? This was a good oppurtunity for them and Lebron choked. The MLE may be gone in the next CBA, what quality centers are going to sign there for the mini? Any role player that the Heat get would be more defensive minded because if you play in MIA you ain't getting the ball.
Meh, I think the whole "people saying he was surrounded with crap" thing is really overstated. IIRC, for the most part they were just pointing out that the Cavs never really put the necessary star talent around him (which is true), and that compared to MIA, the Cavs were an inferior option (also true).

You really underrate Haslem, IMO. Yes, he's a role player. But so is AV. How would the old Cavs do if he missed almost the entire season? And no, I'm not saying they are equal players. Haslem is really, really important to that team though.

The MLE being gone, or a lowhard cap, or whatever are all if's at this point. Regardless, they are going to be an elite team going forward either way. Obviously keeping the MLE and implementing some sort of flex cap would both be more favorable than the alternatives.

It just seems people always have a bone to pick as to why they won't win. Like I said, at first it was depth and lack of a center. Despite that, they still made the Finals. Granted, that's not actually winning it all but still damn impressive. Now people say "things played out perfectly, it's going to be even harder next yr!" which isn't true either.

Whatever, this discussion is kinda pointless at this point because of the uncertainty surrounding the CBA. If the MLE gets scrapped and the team salary cap is significantly changed in an unfavorable manner, then people can start saying it'll be hard for MIA to win in the future. It's premature to already say those sorts of things.
 
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Meh, I think the whole "people saying he was surrounded with crap" thing is really overstated. IIRC, for the most part they were just pointing out that the Cavs never really put the necessary star talent around him (which is true), and that compared to MIA, the Cavs were an inferior option (also true).

You really underrate Haslem, IMO. Yes, he's a role player. But so is AV. How would the old Cavs do if he missed almost the entire season? And no, I'm not saying they are equal players. Haslem is really, really important to that team though.

The MLE being gone, or a lowhard cap, or whatever are all if's at this point. Regardless, they are going to be an elite team going forward either way. Obviously keeping the MLE and implementing some sort of flex cap would both be more favorable than the alternatives.

It just seems people always have a bone to pick as to why they won't win. Like I said, at first it was depth and lack of a center. Despite that, they still made the Finals. Granted, that's not actually winning it all but still damn impressive. Now people say "things played out perfectly, it's going to be even harder next yr!" which isn't true either.

Whatever, this discussion is kinda pointless at this point because of the uncertainty surrounding the CBA. If the MLE gets scrapped and the team salary cap is significantly changed in an unfavorable manner, then people can start saying it'll be hard for MIA to win in the future. It's premature to already say those sorts of things.
You may or may not be right, but we are at Realcavsfans and no one here wants to see that pile of shit that wears #6 win a Championship. You can argue until your blue in the face how good or better this team can get but I know I could careless what that team does. I marvel in Douche Bags failures and any excuse I can find for the Cheat not to win, I'm going to take it.
 
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BTW:

What's up with a rumor about a video of James, Wade, and Bosh and their secret meetings they had a few places before "the decision"? Supposedly TMC has a video that hasn't been released of the three of them, including audio. Anyone heard of this or know anything about it?
 
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BTW:

What's up with a rumor about a video of James, Wade, and Bosh and their secret meetings they had a few places before "the decision"? Supposedly TMC has a video that hasn't been released of the three of them, including audio. Anyone heard of this or know anything about it?

Yeah, I first heard about this listening to this interview with ESPN's Shelley Smith - she mentions that there is video of the the three out there, and that it likely won't be released for some time. Her interview is below - she pretty much trashes James the entire time. I have problems linking KNR podcasts, but you'll find it below

http://www.espncleveland.com/audiovault/
 
Re: The guy who wears #6 in Miami

FUCK THIS MOTHERFUCKER !!!!!!!!! HOPEFULLY HE SUCKS AN AIDS DICK...

GO TRISTAN !!!
 
Re: The guy who wears #6 in Miami

Triumph is 100% right. Miami is only gonna get better. They had little depth, a ton of outside distractions, and one year to gel together. With all that drama, they still made the finals. They are only going to get better once the ring chasers come around. Only thing that can slow them dowm is the CBA taking away the MLE.

They were extremely fortunate to get to face the Boston team they did. The 2009-2010 Celts would have killed the Heat. They they got to face a young Chicago team.

Just a fortunate match-up situation for the Heat. They should have beaten Dallas. It's pretty embarrassing that they lost that series(though Dallas played great). They're going to have a hard time finding an easier path to a title than this past year in terms of competition.
 
Re: The guy who wears #6 in Miami

They pummeled Boston and Chicago because Lebron showed up and dominated. Just as the Cavs would have in 2010 if Lebron fulfilled his role. Maybe it was "fortunate" for the Heat that he played to his capacity in those series. They lost to Dallas because he quit or shrunk.

The Heat will indeed have a hard time finding a path to the title, as will every team in the NBA. If forced to pick a team to title next year, I would easily to go with the Heat. But, I can't put them at over 50% and it may be as low as 30%.
 
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