The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[Stark]

Saw this today and it cracked me up.

Peter Dinklage and Emilia Clarke are awesome.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Surprised the odds for Davos aren't a bit higher, especially ahead of someone like Cersei or Jaime whom nobody would follow. I could see him being named Regent for someone else also. So even though he wouldn't be King, he would still be sitting on the throne.

I could see people following Jaime at the end of the story if he redeems himself. I figure he has to survive that encounter with Lady Stoneheart given that it would be kind of a shitty end for him after his redemption arc to just be hanged.

Never really considered this before, but what if the Brotherhood Without Banners uses him to get them all into Frey's castle so they can pull off their own version of the Red Wedding?

 

[theSTEREO.]

April premiere date confirmed today.

 

[Rich]

Is there anyone out here who is going to actually buy and read Fire & Blood? I'm......eh. I dunno.

 

[kosis]

Every time I think it can't get more bleak for Theon, he is now at even money with Gilly to win this thing. Chin up.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I could see people following Jaime at the end of the story if he redeems himself. I figure he has to survive that encounter with Lady Stoneheart given that it would be kind of a shitty end for him after his redemption arc to just be hanged.

Never really considered this before, but what if the Brotherhood Without Banners uses him to get them all into Frey's castle so they can pull off their own version of the Red Wedding?

I'm personally not much for redemption arcs that end with the wrongdoer winning. Jaime did enough shitty stuff that while personal redemption for him may be possible, he shouldn't end up on the throne. Also, the problem Jaime has is how he is perceived throughout the Seven Kingdoms. Him engaging in individual heroics that may make up for some of what he's done in the past won't matter to the vast majority of Westerosi who won't witness those things, and whose opinions of him will be unchanged.

 

[kosis]

Is there anyone out here who is going to actually buy and read Fire & Blood? I'm......eh. I dunno.

If ASOIAF was finished, I would be pining for new material and would have been all over it. Him chipping away at this other stuff while TWOW continues to decay just puts a bad taste in my mouth and leaves me uninterested, sadly.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Is there anyone out here who is going to actually buy and read Fire & Blood? I'm......eh. I dunno.

I started reading ASOIAF in 1997. If and when he finishes that, I'll read Fire and Blood. In other words....

No.

 

[Cavatt]

I mean he really messed up not racing to finish it before the show got ahead of him. Now I can see why he might think "What's the point of getting this story done now that the show is so far ahead?"

It also seems weird to finish all those irrelevant story lines like the fake Aegean which don't even appear in the books. Lady stoneheart etc. Like how could those possibly be important. Very tricky.

 

[Stark]

I mean he really messed up not racing to finish it before the show got ahead of him. Now I can see why he might think "What's the point of getting this story done now that the show is so far ahead?"

It also seems weird to finish all those irrelevant story lines like the fake Aegean which don't even appear in the books. Lady stoneheart etc. Like how could those possibly be important. Very tricky.

Yeah, the only way is if the books takes a different ending from the show, which I really don't see happening.

I can't see Jon winning it in the show and then Dany taking it in the books. Just would be too far of a shift considering it's more or less the same universe with, up to this point, nothing game-breakingly different between the two except for maybe Stannis (I'm halfway through Book One, so that may not be correct).

 

[Cavatt]

Yeah, the only way is if the books takes a different ending from the show, which I really don't see happening.

I can't see Jon winning it in the show and then Dany taking it in the books. Just would be too far of a shift considering it's more or less the same universe with, up to this point, nothing game-breakingly different between the two except for maybe Stannis (I'm halfway through Book One, so that may not be correct).

Everyone in here has mostly agreed that the Lord of light is bad. Jon was brought back to life by him, and we know you lose your personality a bit because of coming back to life and Beric essentially became a cult leader. In the book Lady Stoneheart is very hard to see as a good guy.

So doesn't it stand to reason that Jon is there for a bad purpose? I keep getting the feeling they are hinting he is bad and think that must mean he leads to Dany's end. With the way everyone's hopes are dashed in this story, I cannot see either Dany or Jon winning it.

 

[Stark]

Everyone in here has mostly agreed that the Lord of light is bad. Jon was brought back to life by him, and we know you lose your personality a bit because of coming back to life and Beric essentially became a cult leader. In the book Lady Stoneheart is very hard to see as a good guy.

So doesn't it stand to reason that Jon is there for a bad purpose? I keep getting the feeling they are hinting he is bad and think that must mean he leads to Dany's end. With the way everyone's hopes are dashed in this story, I cannot see either Dany or Jon winning it.

Oh, I wasn't thinking that in-depth.

All I meant is that I can't see two different people sitting on the throne at the end between the two mediums. I do agree though, and think that he will play a role in Dany's demise.

 

[Cavatt]

Oh, I wasn't thinking that in-depth.

All I meant is that I can't see two different people sitting on the throne at the end between the two mediums. I do agree though, and think that he will play a role in Dany's demise.

It would be pretty messed up right? If the show ends this year, and we get 2 more books from him eventually like in 15 years or so and the ending is different? He is like, "This is what really happened?"

It would be such a weird thing to do.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Yeah, the only way is if the books takes a different ending from the show, which I really don't see happening.

I can't see Jon winning it in the show and then Dany taking it in the books. Just would be too far of a shift considering it's more or less the same universe with, up to this point, nothing game-breakingly different between the two except for maybe Stannis (I'm halfway through Book One, so that may not be correct).

Much like the show, Stannis doesn't appear until the second book. He's mentioned quite a bit in the first one to establish who he is, but you don't actually meet him until the book two prologue.

 

[Rich]

I mean he really messed up not racing to finish it before the show got ahead of him. Now I can see why he might think "What's the point of getting this story done now that the show is so far ahead?"

It also seems weird to finish all those irrelevant story lines like the fake Aegean which don't even appear in the books. Lady stoneheart etc. Like how could those possibly be important. Very tricky.

So fAegon is a way for the story to not just cast off major players like the show has. It will keep Dorne in the plot. Its a logical way of getting the Golden Company across the sea. The show sorta had to make Euron an entirely different person from the books in order to get the Golden Company to Westeros.

So while fAegon might not be important, I assume the Golden Company mudt be.

As for Dorne, any time George makes note of how something has never happened before, you can bet it will.

So the wall WILL fall, Storms End WILL be taken, Euron DID walk the ruins of Valyria etc.

Well, over and over were told how Dorne was never technically conquered. "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" that's why they're called princes and princesses, because they made a treaty with the Targaryens after resisting them. The Martells are technically a step higher than the Lords of the other houses.

I'd say its a safe bet they will be broken and will bow. The show just sorta cast them aside and we will likely never hear from them again but George isn't gonna leave a huge loose end like that.