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All the other nonsense aside (playoff stuff from 5+ years ago), Mo does a lot of things really well.

And for potentially a 3rd PG / change of pace scorer, there is honestly no one else better for $2 million a year.

He's still a very good catch and shoot guy from 3 (39.7% last year with CHA, 43.8% with MIN) and he's able to create without turning the ball over (2.5 to 1 AST/TO ratio).

He also was serviceable as a defender during his stint with Charlotte. Posting a 107 DTRG, -2.4 DBPM, 0.7 DWS and a -1.74 DRPM.

Most of those numbers slot him as an average NBA defender, which is fine since his ORPM is still in the top 25% of the league's PG's. He can also still get to the line with 5.8 FTA per 100 possessions. That's 4x what Delly produces. His WAR was also in line with guys like Rubio and Stuckey, who get paid significantly more money.

Given his career production, he is an absolute steal on a low money / short contract.
 
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For the money, Mo is a decent get. He gives us another ball handler and shooter and lets us matchup differently in certain situations, but overall, he probably doesn't make us much better as a CoJo or Mills would have, but those were never going to happen as Pop knows that the Cavs would most likely be the team he's dealing with in the finals.

He provides some shooting and offense production (good ISO player--see below) that we may need in a series down the line.

Mo's DRPM was -1.74, 50th out of 84 PGs. His ORPM of 1.02 was 24th out of 84 PGs, though.

Offense

He made 40.7% of wide open and 33.9% of open threes this year and 41.3% of catch and shoot threes. Last year, he made 35.6% of wide open threes and 39% of open threes and 40.1% of catch and shoot threes. The thing he can do that Delly cannot is produce offense using pick and roll as he produced .83 PPP off of pick and roll with Minnesota, 33rd out of 66 players who had 200+ such possessions. He is also a good ISO player who produced 1.12 PPP in Charlotte, 2nd best out of 153 players who had at least 40+ possessions. In Minny, he was at 1.02 PPP, 11th best out of 153 who played 40+ such possessions. He was an excellent spot up shooter with Charlotte, producing 1.24 PPP on spot up opportunities, good for 8th out of 266 players with 75+ such opportunities. He produced .98 PPP in Minny, 143rd out of 282 players with 65+ opportunities.

Defense

He defended the three decently well this year giving up 32.7% to shooters who shot 34.2% against everyone else. Last year he was atrocious giving up 40.9% on threes to opponents who shot 35.5% against everyone else. He was atrocious on pick and roll defense allowing .87 PPP with Charlotte, 93rd out of 105 players who played 105 such possessions. With Minny, he allowed .96 PPP, 103rd out of 105 players with 140+ such possessions. He was terrible at spot up defense in Minny allowing 1.11 PPP, 217th out of 241 players on 90+ such possessions. With Charlotte, he was much better allowing .93 PPP, 91st of 241 players.
His ISO defense was good in Charlotte (top 11%), and decent in Minny (middle of the pack)
 
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What is the definition of"spot up defense"? Isn't this very much dependant on the rest of the team? It's odd that he excels in iso defense but is apparently the worst at spot up defense.. if were calling it bbiq instead of lack of athleticism, it's equally as odd considering he's a decent play maker..

But, the pnr defense lends to the fact that it might be the team moreso than the player, no?

priceFTW said:
For the money, Mo is a decent get. He gives us another ball handler and shooter and let's us matchup differently in certain situations, but overall, he probably doesn't make us much better as a CoJo or Mills would have, but those were never going to happen as Pop knows that the Cavs would most likely be the team he's dealing with in the finals.

He provides some shooting and offense production (good ISO player--see below) that we may need in a series down the line.

Mo's DRPM was -1.74, 50th out of 84 PGs. His ORPM of 1.02 was 24th out of 84 PGs, though.

Offense

He made 40.7% of wide open and 33.9% of open threes this year and 41.3% of catch and shoot threes. Last year, he made 35.6% of wide open threes and 39% of open threes and 40.1% of catch and shoot threes. The thing he can do that Delly cannot is produce offense using pick and roll as he produced .83 PPP off of pick and roll with Minnesota, 33rd out of 66 players who had 200+ such possessions. He is also a good ISO player who produced 1.12 PPP in Charlotte, 2nd best out of 153 players who had at least 40+ possessions. In Minny, he was at 1.02 PPP, 11th best out of 153 who played 40+ such possessions. He was an excellent spot up shooter with Charlotte, producing 1.24 PPP on spot up opportunities, good for 8th out of 266 players with 75+ such opportunities. He produced .98 PPP in Minny, 143rd out of 282 players with 65+ opportunities.

Defense

He defended the three decently well this year giving up 32.7% to shooters who shot 34.2% against everyone else. Last year he was atrocious giving up 40.9% on threes to opponents who shot 35.5% against everyone else. He was atrocious on pick and roll defense allowing .87 PPP with Charlotte, 93rd out of 105 players who played 105 such possessions. With Minny, he allowed .96 PPP, 103rd out of 105 players with 140+ such possessions. He was terrible at spot up defense in Minny allowing 1.11 PPP, 217th out of 241 players on 90+ such possessions. With Charlotte, he was much better allowing .93 PPP, 91st of 241 players.
His ISO defense was good in Charlotte (top 11%), and decent in Minny (middle of the pack)
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David. said:
What is the definition of"spot up defense"? Isn't this very much dependant on the rest of the team? It's odd that he excels in iso defense but is apparently the worst at spot up defense.. if were calling it bbiq instead of lack of athleticism, it's equally as odd considering he's a decent play maker..

But, the pnr defense lends to the fact that it might be the team moreso than the player, no?
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To some extent but the numbers are not entirely team dependent and not all the numbers are independent of team. I think pick and roll defense numbers are most team dependent but after hundreds of pieces of data, you can see patterns develop. For example, you can take a player on a team and see how he does against pick and roll and then see how other players on the same team do against pick and roll. If you're playing with most of the same players, but the opposition scores more when you are put into pick and roll, that says something. RPM data really helps elucidate meaning in this matter although we don't know the specifics defensive possessions that lead to a player's total RPM numbers, but we can guess which things are leading to the numbers.

SportsVU definition of ISO defense: When the possession-ending event is created during a “one-on-one” matchup. The defender needs to be set and have all of his defensive options at the initiation of the play.

SportsVU definition of a pick and roll event: A screen is set on the ball handler’s defender out on the perimeter. The offensive player can use the screen or go away from it and as long as the play yields a possession-ending event, it is tagged as a pick and roll.

SportsVU defintion of spot up: When the possession-ending event is a catch-and-shoot or catch-and-drive play.

You can see here that a rim protector would help out your numbers here if you overrun a close out, but then you can compare with other players on the team and look at DRPM.
 
What happened to the 26-30 age group?
 
Kbiz8288 said:
People are really undervaluing the Mo Williams signing in here. I am not sure if it's because of all the "bigger" names mentioned that we've targeted and missed on or just the frustration stemming from the TT negotiations but Williams gives us everything we need at the 1/2 back-up PG position. Him and Delly's games are completely different, allowing us a lot of flexibility.
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Not underestimating it. He is an excellent pick up. I just think we need one more quality guy at the SF/SG position. Mo+Joe Johnson+resigning everybody would be a very successful off season
 
1.4 secondary assist per game.. 22 points generated by assist per 48 minutes.

14 points a game generated by assist off of 6 assist per approximately 11 assist opportunities per game

Mo averaged 55 passes a game 20% potentially can result in a score.


He will create more Inside assist opportunities and he is an accomplished play caller.

Mo will get others involved in the offense and I think will be very open to running Blatts offensive principles when lebron and Irving are not on the floor

Also people want to talk about the Celtic series. I dont really put that on MO. The team paniced especially the coach. Shaq alluded to such although i dont think he really helped matters.

The attention the Cavs put up on rondo after taking a 2 1 series lead had far more of a negative impact than Mo's subpar coverage.

The guy who should be happiest about Mo;s acquisition is Kevin Love. If Love rolls through the paint Williams will get him the ball
 
The Oi said:
Let's talk about Alexandra Breckenridge and what obscure flaw @David. will find about her that noone else has noticed.
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Bitch is cold... would definitely smash... would pay to smash if needs be...
 
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