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The Unofficial Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

Discussion in 'Browns Talk' started by Real Deal, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. Real Deal

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    1. Indianapolis Colts -- Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford

    A lot could change in Indy between now and April. By the time the Colts are called to the podium they'll know about Peyton Manning's future and will either draft Luck or trade the pick. Luck could end up in a tough spot. He'll say the right things, but he wants to play right away, so co-existing with Manning would be difficult. If Manning leaves, Luck will face huge expectations and be surrounded by very little talent.

    2. Cleveland Browns -- Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor (Trade with St. Louis)

    The Rams don't need a quarterback, but with a manageable price tag for rookies because of the salary slotting system, they'll get calls from Cleveland, Miami and Washington about moving up to land Griffin. After last season's draft-day trade with the Falcons, the Browns have an extra first-rounder and can put together the best package. Griffin may have more tools than Luck, but Luck is more valuable because he ran a pro system at Stanford. Griffin completed 72.4 percent of his passes, a dazzling number even in the defensively challenged Big 12. Cleveland ranked No. 29 in offense with Colt McCoy running the show and would likely be ready to hand the keys of the offense over to Griffin immediately. Pat Shurmur is a West Coast guy, but would adjust his system to suit Griffin's talents if he had to.

    It will cost the #4th, #22nd, and 2013 2nd.

    3. Minnesota Vikings -- Matt Kalil, OT, USC

    Vikings GM Rick Spielman told quarterback Christian Ponder they wouldn't draft someone to compete with him. Instead, they'll try to beef up a line that allowed 49 sacks last season. Kalil didn't allow a sack at USC last season and he has the bloodlines -- his brother Ryan is a Pro Bowl center on the Panthers.

    4. St. Louis Rams -- Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State (Trade with Cleveland)

    Blackmon may not run a blazing 40, but neither did Larry Fitzgerald or Jerry Rice. Blackmon's dominant performance in the Fiesta Bowl put to rest any notion he benefits from Oklahoma State's wide-open offense.

    5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU#

    The Bucs need someone who can make a play on defense. They've already tried drafting D-linemen high, and the players they've taken have shown promise but can't stay healthy. Claiborne is the top shut-down corner in the draft.

    6. Washington Redskins -- Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama#

    The Redskins need a quarterback, but may be forced to turn to free agency because the right signal-caller won't be available at this spot. Instead, they'll draft the best player available. The Redskins' strength is their defense, which ranked 13th in the NFL last season, but adding the big, physical Kirkpatrick in the secondary could make life even easier for their talented pass-rushers.

    7. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Devon Still, DT, Penn State

    Everything depends on who the Jaguars hire at head coach and what systems they run. We'll give them the best available talent for right now. With so many needs, including receiver, the Jaguars could conceivably trade down from this spot.

    8. Carolina Panthers* -- Michael Brockers, DT, LSU#

    The Panthers have needs all over their defense and would benefit greatly by improving in the middle of the line. Brockers, a redshirt sophomore, will be the best prospect from LSU's outstanding defensive line if he declares himself eligible for the draft in the coming days.

    9. Miami Dolphins* -- Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina

    Lots of questions still remain about what systems the Dolphins will be using next season, given their unsettled coaching situation. Brown is the best 4-3 outside linebacker in the draft and would help take some pressure off Cameron Wake.

    10. Buffalo Bills -- Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina

    Coples disappointed some scouts this season, but the Bills need more pressure up front and he has a lot of natural talent. The big question with Coples is attitude. He'll have to prove he wants it in pre-draft interviews.

    11. Kansas City Chiefs* -- Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa

    The Chiefs need to infuse their offensive line with attitude, and Reiff plays nasty. He fits every stereotype of an Iowa lineman in a good way.

    12. Seattle Seahawks* -- Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M

    The former college wide receiver will shine during the pre-draft process. He has athletic ability and the brains to wow teams in interviews. Seahawks coach Pete Carroll has to be smarting that Matt Barkley returned to USC, but will still go quarterback to develop someone behind Tarvaris Jackson.

    13. Arizona Cardinals -- Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford

    The Cardinals want to see their investment in quarterback Kevin Kolb pay off and will try to bolster the offensive line. Expect them to let veteran offensive tackle Levi Brown go in the offseason.

    14. Dallas Cowboys -- David DeCastro, OG, Stanford

    The Cowboys need help in the defensive secondary, but may not be in a good spot to get an elite cornerback here. Therefore they'll will go with the best player available.

    15. Philadelphia Eagles -- Luke Kuelchy, LB, Boston College

    Andy Reid doesn't draft linebackers, but the need is so glaring now, Eagles fans may revolt if the doesn't. It's been long enough for them to get over drafting Mike Mamula back in 1995.

    16. New York Jets -- Mark Barron, S, Alabama

    The Jets defense took a step back this season, in part because safety Jim Leonhard was hurt. Even if Leonhard is back, they need to strengthen the secondary, and Barron can help at multiple positions.

    17. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders) -- Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama#

    Teams don't draft running backs in the first round as much any more, but Richardson is a pretty safe bet. He's short, but exceptionally strong. Richardson went to Escambia High in Florida, alma mater of Emmitt Smith, and the Bengals hope he joins quarterback Andy Dalton and receiver A.J. Green in a Smith-Troy Aikman-Michael Irvin type of triumvirate.

    18. San Diego Chargers -- Courtney Upshaw, DE, Alabama

    The Chargers are still looking for an explosive pass-rusher. There's some doubt about whether Upshaw can play standing up, but he may be worth the risk.

    19. Chicago Bears -- Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

    The NFL seems to have trouble evaluating Notre Dame products, but Floyd fits the mold of the tall, fast receiver the Bears need.

    20. Tennessee Titans -- Nick Perry, DE, USC

    The Titans ranked 31st in the NFL with just 28 sacks last season. Perry had 9.5 sacks as a junior and could move up in the draft process as teams study his work at USC.

    21. Cincinnati Bengals -- Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina

    The lasting image of the Bengals' playoff loss to the Texans is Pacman Jones getting juked out of his shoes by Andre Johnson. Cincy needs a cornerback to solidify a secondary that still needs to replace Johnathan Joseph.

    22. St. Louis Rams -- Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama (Trade with Cleveland Browns, from Atlanta Falcons)

    If the Rams go offense early, they will try to improve their 22nd-ranked defense. Jenkins has some character questions, but teams have to be willing to take risks to find quality cover guys in today's NFL.

    23. Detroit Lions -- Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska

    The Lions could also turn to Jenkins, but Dennard is a lot tougher. The 5-foot-10 cornerback doesn't back down, even though there is a real fear he'll struggle against tall receivers.

    24. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis

    Nose tackle Casey Hampton is 34 and will likely have knee surgery. The 6-5, 350-pound Poe is cut out of the same mold and should be a strong force in the middle of a 3-4 line.

    25. Denver Broncos -- Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson

    Tight ends are usually a great aid to quarterbacks who struggle with accuracy. Allen won the Mackey Award for the nation's top tight end and could quickly become Tim Tebow's best friend.

    26. New York Giants -- Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama#

    Hightower showed his versatility in the BCS title game and will fill a need on the Giants' defense. They could also look for depth in the secondary.

    27. Houston Texans -- Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers

    The Texans are looking for a tall, fast receiver and the 6-2 Sanu will add a needed dimension to a productive offense. Sanu had 115 catches last season, and could move up if he comes up with a dazzling 40.

    28. New England Patriots (From New Orleans Saints) -- Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina

    The Patriots are never predictable, but you have to figure they'll go pretty heavy on defense in this draft. They've seemed hesitant to take a pass-rusher, but they need to improve in that area. Scouts are waiting to see how Ingram runs to see where he'll be slotted. New England could also look at Clemson DE Andre Branch here.

    29. Baltimore Ravens -- Kelechi Osemele, OG, Iowa State

    The Ravens could have multiple needs on the offensive line depending on how their offseason goes. Osemele is listed at 347 pounds and could thrive in a system that has had success developing offensive linemen. They also could try to land a receiver, possibly LSU's Reuben Randle.

    30. San Francisco 49ers -- Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

    The explosive receiver deserves a lot of credit for Griffin's Heisman. His ability to make plays after the catch would be a huge addition to the Niners' ho-hum offense.

    31. New England Patriots -- Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech

    Hosley had nine interceptions in 2010, but was banged up last season and took a step back. The Pats have been using converted offensive players in their secondary; they need bodies.

    32. Green Bay Packers -- Fletcher Cox, DE, Mississippi State

    The Packers weren't able to replace Cullen Jenkins this season and no one could get to the quarterback other than Clay Matthews. Cox was a first-team All-SEC performer with five sacks last season.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    I'd say 85-90% of fans that called 92.3 were totally against this. They talked about standing still and calling STL's bluff. STL really wants Blackmon 1A, Kalil 1B. If they trade down to 6 or 7 then they'll get neither. I believe and will continue to believe we can draft RG3 at #4. Giving up the #22 and a 2nd next year is soand so to me. I wanna keep picks, not deal them away, especially multiple picks, and all to move up 2 spots. Overpaying at its finest. Even though it will basically be trading Julio Jones for Taylor and RG3.

    I know its all speculation, but what do you think?
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    eh, both 1st round picks? I know a bunch of you on here are high on RGIII, but we can fill 2 solid spots we need with these 2 firsts, give McCoy one more year, and next years QB class is also strong.

    Fill more needs this year, then if we need a QB, wait until next year.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    That's almost the kind of package I expect to be given up for a Luck trade. I like Griffin, but not enough to trade all of that to move 2 spots.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    Richardson or Blackmon + the #22 >>>>> Griffin III
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    & a possible starter next year as well.

    Dear Tom Heckert,

    Do this, we'll kick you square in the nutz.

    Warmest regards,
    Cleveland
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    You are crazy if you think swapping first round picks and a 22nd and 2nd pick would get you anywhere close to getting Luck. It's not about draft spots. It's about the prospect you will get with that pick who is projected to be a franchise QB that helps build the foundation of the team.

    I agree what Bull said on 92.3. If the Browns feel confident that RG3 is a franchise QB then trading those picks for him is an absolute steal.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    Closer than anyone else.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    Not a chance. This goes against everything said thus far. I'd rather trade down than pick him at 4.

    I do not this'll happen at all.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    Let me level set.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/12/28/2663490/2012-nfl-draft-andrew-luck-trade

     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    I said almost. I fully expect it to cost 3 first rounders. By the way you lose all credibility when you agree with anyone from 92.3 or WKNR. Adam the Bull is especially horrible.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    Gotcha. 1 or 2 more first round picks is "almost" close. No biggie not drafting in the first round till 2014 or 2015.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    If Griffin is the guy the Browns NEED and project to be the franchise QB then 4, 22 and next year's 2nd isn't THAT high of a price. It's high but franchise QBs don't grow on trees. Still, I don't see why St Louis is the team that trades down. What benefit do they get from trading down outside of getting extra picks? They won't get the 2 guys they covet in the draft, Kahlil and Blackmon, if they trade down. If anyone is trading down it's the Vikings, and it won't cost as much as SI's guess at #2s value.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    Yeah, I don't consider there to be THAT big a difference between our 2 firsts this year plus our second next year and both firsts plus next year's first.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    I wanted to punch a puppy when I heard them saying this.

    Our only other competition to trade up to #2 is Miami and Washington. They'd offer their first and second this year, and first next year. WE CAN FUCKING BEAT THAT BY OFFERING THE SAME PICKS (1,2,1). INCLUDING THE OTHER 1ST ROUNDER THIS YEAR IS NOT NECESSARY!!!!!!!!! USE YOUR FUCKING HEADS YOU MORONS!!!!!!!
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    I would rather Heckert call bullshit and get burned than give up that much to move up 1 or 2 spots for the second best Qb, that has question-marks.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    This is exactly what I didn't want to hear. I don't want to sell the farm, but if H&H really think he's the guy I guess I'll bite. I feel like we could get more depth, but I guess it would make last years trade a wash. I will be seriously pissed if we give up anything more than 4 and 22.
     
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    Re: The Official Mock Drafts Thread (SI has us trading up, but see what we give)

    maybe people would rather trade the 2nd first round pick (the one we got from Atlanta) than our 2013 first round pick? chances are that we won't be among the 10 best teams next year even if Griffin is our QB and has a monster year...
     
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