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Presti does that trade in a heartbeat, as would any GM. Reggie Jackson could be the best backup PG in the league and not be worth TT.

Once again, he's only 22, he's already giving you 12-10 a night, and he's a solid 1-on-1 defender. He's already got 2 elite skills in rebounding and defending the pick and roll. Yet this guy's not worth Reggie Jackson?


I do not agree
 
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Well, we could drop this debate for one reason. And it's not because Jackson or Thompson produce better than the other. The only reason is because of their size. You usually don't trade a big man unless the talent difference is obvious or you get a big man in return.

Meanwhile, Jackson hasn't set the world on fire anymore than Thompson, so what are you expecting?
 
Well, we could drop this debate for one reason. And it's not because Jackson or Thompson produce better than the other. The only reason is because of their size. You usually don't trade a big man unless the talent difference is obvious or you get a big man in return.

Meanwhile, Jackson hasn't set the world on fire anymore than Thompson, so what are you expecting?

But ESPN told me Reggie Jackson is the next James Harden. Was ESPN wrong???
 
You Know that's not what I'm saying. Also you must not have watched the Bulls or Thunder in the playoffs last season if you don't think that Jimmy Butler and Reggie Jackson were key to their success. Neither team would trade one of those guys for Tristan straight up.

Ok, let's just start with this: the entire premise is really, really stupid.

Of course Oklahoma City wouldn't trade Thompson for Jackson straight up when they already have Serge Ibaka and Westbrook has been oft-injured. Back-up PG is a HUGE need for them right now. Of course Chicago wouldn't trade Butler for Thompson straight up when they have zero other young SGs on the roster but have a glutiny of big men who aren't the most gifted offensively (and are paying them all big salaries).

What makes this measure you've come up with, team X wouldn't trade player Y for Thompson and thus Thompson was overdrafted, silly, is that there are a billion other things that come into play in whether or not a team would make a trade. 1) Does the player they would be trading away fit their roster better, regardless of whether or not he's a better player. This would be the case in both of the scenarios you just provided. 2) Do we already have guys on our roster that we are paying a substantial amount of money too that play the same position as the player we would hypothetically be trading for? 3) Are we trying to tank, win now..what's the overall plan here?

The Cavs wouldn't trade Tristan Thompson for Kemba Walker would they? Of course not, they have no need for him on this roster whatsoever, regardless of whether or not Kemba is a better player. And that matters when understanding the Cavs are trying to win. So fit is now more important.

The Rockets obviously wouldn't trade Parsons for Thompson, because Thompson doesn't come close to fitting what that team wants to do on offense. On the flip side, especially after the acquisition of Deng, the Cavs would never even make that offer.

You see, you've come up with a measuring stick that leaves out way to many variables to determine which player is "better."
 
Hate to say it... but after watching LA tonight closely, it just reconfirms my belief that TT is just a slightly above average PF who is undersized.
Nothing against him, but it is kind of depressing we used a number 4 and number 1 pick on PF the past 3 seasons, and we still dont have dynamic play from that position.
 
Hate to say it... but after watching LA tonight closely, it just reconfirms my belief that TT is just a slightly above average PF who is undersized.
Nothing against him, but it is kind of depressing we used a number 4 and number 1 pick on PF the past 3 seasons, and we still dont have dynamic play from that position.

I can see where you're coming from, but in the first half of Aldridge's third season, he was still a supposed third fiddle going forward (at best) behind Oden and the superstar that was Brandon Roy and many people doubted whether or not he'd ever truly reach what he was capable of. I'll also add that as good as Aldridge looked, he was fairly inefficient until the very end and you're comparing Tristan to the guy who's currently regarded as the best overall power forward in the league.

Not saying TT wasn't underwhelming tonight, but Aldridge is living proof as much as anyone that bigs take time to develop.
 
Hate to say it... but after watching LA tonight closely, it just reconfirms my belief that TT is just a slightly above average PF who is undersized.
Nothing against him, but it is kind of depressing we used a number 4 and number 1 pick on PF the past 3 seasons, and we still dont have dynamic play from that position.

I have also given up on Bennett and I too am angry that we passed up on Anthony Davis to grab Waiters.
 
I can see where you're coming from, but in the first half of Aldridge's third season, he was still a supposed third fiddle going forward (at best) behind Oden and the superstar that was Brandon Roy and many people doubted whether or not he'd ever truly reach what he was capable of. I'll also add that as good as Aldridge looked, he was fairly inefficient until the very end and you're comparing Tristan to the guy who's currently regarded as the best overall power forward in the league.

Not saying TT wasn't underwhelming tonight, but Aldridge is living proof as much as anyone that bigs take time to develop.

He has about 2 inches on TT and plays much longer. with a much higher skill level I doubt TT ever gets close to his level of play.
 
I can see where you're coming from, but in the first half of Aldridge's third season, he was still a supposed third fiddle going forward (at best) behind Oden and the superstar that was Brandon Roy and many people doubted whether or not he'd ever truly reach what he was capable of. I'll also add that as good as Aldridge looked, he was fairly inefficient until the very end and you're comparing Tristan to the guy who's currently regarded as the best overall power forward in the league.

Not saying TT wasn't underwhelming tonight, but Aldridge is living proof as much as anyone that bigs take time to develop.

Aldridge averaged 18 and 8 on 48% from the field and 76% from the line in his second season at age 22...
 
I can see where you're coming from, but in the first half of Aldridge's third season, he was still a supposed third fiddle going forward (at best) behind Oden and the superstar that was Brandon Roy and many people doubted whether or not he'd ever truly reach what he was capable of. I'll also add that as good as Aldridge looked, he was fairly inefficient until the very end and you're comparing Tristan to the guy who's currently regarded as the best overall power forward in the league.

Not saying TT wasn't underwhelming tonight, but Aldridge is living proof as much as anyone that bigs take time to develop.

I don't want to sound condescending, but this is just completely wrong. Aldridge has always had offensive talent that TT could only dream of. At Texas he was the primary offensive weapon and demonstrated the soft shooting touch and the potential arsenal of post moves that he has now. As a 2nd year player in the NBA he bumped his average up to 18 ppg on 48% shooting as Portland's primary offensive post threat. He won't ever shoot a ridiculously high percentage from the field, but that's because a majority of his shots are from the 15-20 foot range which has the added bonus of always dragging his man out of the paint. He also has incredible size and length and can get his shot over anybody.

I don't see how that's any bit like a garbage man big who's probably the 4th or 5th option on the court on offense averaging 12 ppg on 45% shooting who still can't/won't take a shot outside of 10 feet.
 
I stand corrected. I thought Aldridge took longer to come into his own.
 
I am not here to rip TT, I just think some got way too carried away with his "ceiling" after a few good pre season games. I think you see what he will be for most of his career right now. A nice role player at PF. On a contending team he is probably the 4th/5th best player on your roster.
When you spend to top 5 picks on PF in 3 years, it is depressing that average play is all your getting, not TT's fault, he just does not have the skill level or size to be an Aldridge any time in his career.
 

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