Tristan Thompson

[TeaLeaves]

All your jibber/jabber and stats don't make any case for TT as being anything special at all. The sooner they get rid of him the better.

 

[shoes22]

All your jibber/jabber and stats don't make any case for TT as being anything special at all. The sooner they get rid of him the better.

Great argument right here. You sure showed them!

 

[mds]

I'm basically pro-Tristan, but of course don't want to overpay him. One aspect of his overall value as a player is his lack of injuries. He's a true ironman in this league and you can't say that about that many players. If you break down $/minutes or $/games, he appears more valuable. I agree with others that he's more of an ideal bench big man than a starter at this point in his career and that will probably remain true, but unless we get decent value out of him in a trade, I'm happy to keep him here. In that scenario it'd be nice to see AB become the player we hope he can be and TT become a solid backup. There's a lot of hoping in that line of thinking.

 

[czvo]

The problem with "the eye test", is it puts too much weight on how a player is at the current moment. It doesn't take into account potential growth.

Part of the "eye-test" is being able to watch a guy, see how he plays, how he reacts, and project where he'll be 3, 5, 10 years down the road.

 

[shoes22]

Part of the "eye-test" is being able to watch a guy, see how he plays, how he reacts, and project where he'll be 3, 5, 10 years down the road.

Based on what? With the "eye test", you're only seeing how a guy is performing at that particular moment...to project how a player would perform years from now, you'd have to use other forms of analysis besides what you're seeing right in front of you...

 

[Just Checkin]

You can easily project a player's career down the line based on mechanics, natural instincts, and system around him down the line. It's not some algorithm of course but part of what gives people a certain hunch about that player is the combination of those aforementioned things.

 

[TeaLeaves]

Great argument right here. You sure showed them!

how much do you want to wager that he's not on the team next year? He's freakin' terrible. Open your eyes.

 

[CosmoKramer]

You can easily project a player's career down the line based on mechanics, natural instincts, and system around him down the line. It's not some algorithm of course but part of what gives people a certain hunch about that player is the combination of those aforementioned things.

Um, what? There's nothing easy about projecting how players are going to develop, especially in regards to opinions formulated from just their mechanics and natural instincts in whatever system they're playing in.

 

[czvo]

Based on what? With the "eye test", you're only seeing how a guy is performing at that particular moment...to project how a player would perform years from now, you'd have to use other forms of analysis besides what you're seeing right in front of you...

I'm not saying you don't have to/shouldn't use other forms of analysis, but a scout's job is to project what a player can/will become.

 

[RchfldCavRaised]

A few days after the draft, Smooth provided links for me to watch Tristan's games in full at Texas. I watched about 4-5 of them, in their entirety, and came away feeling as if... at best, he would be a solid backup/rotational big in the vein on 90's era Tyrone Hill, PJ Brown, Michael Cage, Kurt Thomas, Davis Brother, Shelden Williams kind of power forward. Set a good pick, use a big ass to box out, and have a jheri curl at some point in time during his career.

I projected that without seeing a single statistic, and he looks well on his way to becoming that.

The problem then, as it is now, is that the game is/has trended more towards a open floor, faceup big spacing the court for primary ball handling guards type of game, and those power forwards who were able to anchor your defense as strong hard hat rotational bigs, are simply not valuable enough without being able to also space the floor and faceup for you.

That was known back in 2011. You could see where the game was trending with or without stats. And you could see that a player like TT, how he looked in college and how he projected to play in the pros, was going to have a long uphill battle in making himself the kind of player worthy of being a cornerstone.

 

[The Oi]

Rch loves that Dale Davis/TT comparison.

Rch, have I ever mentioned on here that Dion Waiters reminds me of an early career Ben Gordon?

 

[RchfldCavRaised]

Rch loves that Dale Davis/TT comparison.

Rch, have I ever mentioned on here that Dion Waiters reminds me of an early career Ben Gordon?

We both have and we both get killed for it.

Nobody wants to remember how Ben Gordon was AS instrumental to almost upsetting those 09 Celtics in that epic first round, as Derrick Rose was.

The similarities are scary. Where he can set himself apart is, if he gets that next contract and remains in the 3rd guard kind of role, will he approach the game like Gordon or will he magically mature into a Ginobili.

 

[Los216]

We both have and we both get killed for it.

Nobody wants to remember how Ben Gordon was AS instrumental to almost upsetting those 09 Celtics in that epic first round, as Derrick Rose was.

The similarities are scary. Where he can set himself apart is, if he gets that next contract and remains in the 3rd guard kind of role, will he approach the game like Gordon or will he magically mature into a Ginobili.

He will never accept coming off the bench. I swear he's better coming off the bench but his Philly roots and his draft position will always make it hard for him to accept the bench role.

 

[Cashius X]

He will never accept coming off the bench. I swear he's better coming off the bench but his Philly roots and his draft position will always make it hard for him to accept the bench role.

What does that even mean?

 

[Los216]

What does that even mean?

How are you a Dion Waiters fan but have no clue what that means?