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Can we please stop with the notion that Tristan Thompson is undersized? For center, perhaps, but, for power forward, he's actually ABOVE average size. He came in at 6'8.75" in shoes, which is about average for power forward height, but his standing reach of 9'0.5" and wingspan of 7'1.25" pushed him to actually be slightly above average in length. His initial weight of 227 was what made him "undersized" at the time, but he's probably floating around 250 now. Also, it's pretty clear that he's somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11" now in height based on both pictures and what Fred said. That puts Thompson's standing reach somewhere in the 9'1.5" range most likely, and that's only if his arms didn't grow either. It's arguable that, based on length, he's actually of average size for even a center since centers don't rebound with their heads.
 
I see what you are saying now. As ACGB said above, that's already being factored in...at least it sure as hell better be! :chuckle: I threw up in my mouth when i heard we were offering him over 11M. I can't get away from his flaws. Undersized PF's that can rebound shouldn't get big dollars, they are an easy piece to replace. So i don't want to give a significant amount of our cap to him. I'm shocked TT didn't take our offer, i think we were overpaying with the final offer. Personally, i think Rich/TT are using the perceived "Lebron leverage" and just being greedy. Lebron isn't going to leave if Tristan Thompson doesn't get whatever number TT and Rich have in their heads. Lebron wants rings. He doesn't want any albatross contracts on this team. Only person Lebron wants getting overpaid is Lebron. He knows that it is in his best interest to keep the roster flexible.

Maybe we can workout a trade for Jonas and send TT to Canadia. :doh (31):
Come on Max, didn't he grow 2 inches this off season. :chuckle:
 
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Is Pluto smoking crack? Rubio averaged 7.5 rebs per game? Chris Paul not Rich Paul is Brown's agent? Shit, I'll get paid to edit his columns.
 
That Pluto article is embarrassing.

Chris Paul represents LeBron and Thompson?

And I don't think Tristan is undersized for a PF. For a center, sure. But not a PF.

Undersized PF is someone like Paul Millsap or Kenneth Faried.
 
Is Pluto smoking crack? Rubio averaged 7.5 rebs per game? Chris Paul not Rich Paul is Brown's agent? Shit, I'll get paid to edit his columns.

The number of errors in columns by all the Cavs reporters suggests that the editing procedures at the paper (or the number of editors) have changed or become nonexistent.
 
Can we please stop with the notion that Tristan Thompson is undersized? For center, perhaps, but, for power forward, he's actually ABOVE average size. He came in at 6'8.75" in shoes, which is about average for power forward height, but his standing reach of 9'0.5" and wingspan of 7'1.25" pushed him to actually be slightly above average in length. His initial weight of 227 was what made him "undersized" at the time, but he's probably floating around 250 now. Also, it's pretty clear that he's somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11" now in height based on both pictures and what Fred said. That puts Thompson's standing reach somewhere in the 9'1.5" range most likely, and that's only if his arms didn't grow either. It's arguable that, based on length, he's actually of average size for even a center since centers don't rebound with their heads.


"Probably floating around 250" - When i was there on Thurs his latest weigh-in had him at 234.
"Pretty clear that he's somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11" - I assure you, if Tristan was between 6'10 and 6'11"...he'd make sure the Cavs listed him as 6'11". If he was between 6'9" and 6'10", he'd make sure the Cavs listed him at 6'10". They list him at 6'9". The running joke is that his fro is taller...Kyrie told him he should keep it going and that he'd be 7'0" by Christmas.

TT was 131st in the league in Blocks per 48 minutes...that's 51st out of 64 Power Forwards...16 Point Guards and Shooting Guards ranked higher. For someone who is "actually of average size for even a center", that's pretty sad.

IF it makes you all feel better i'll rephrase - Power forwards of any size that can rebound, but can't spread the floor and don't block shots, should not get $12-14M a year. They are easily replaceable.
 
"Probably floating around 250" - When i was there on Thurs his latest weigh-in had him at 234.
"Pretty clear that he's somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11" - I assure you, if Tristan was between 6'10 and 6'11"...he'd make sure the Cavs listed him as 6'11". If he was between 6'9" and 6'10", he'd make sure the Cavs listed him at 6'10". They list him at 6'9". The running joke is that his fro is taller...Kyrie told him he should keep it going and that he'd be 7'0" by Christmas.

TT was 131st in the league in Blocks per 48 minutes...that's 51st out of 64 Power Forwards...16 Point Guards and Shooting Guards ranked higher. For someone who is "actually of average size for even a center", that's pretty sad.

IF it makes you all feel better i'll rephrase - Power forwards of any size that can rebound, but can't spread the floor and don't block shots, should not get $12-14M a year. They are easily replaceable.
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Again, just listing the height of a player is not going to convince me he is undersized.
 
"Probably floating around 250" - When i was there on Thurs his latest weigh-in had him at 234.
"Pretty clear that he's somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11" - I assure you, if Tristan was between 6'10 and 6'11"...he'd make sure the Cavs listed him as 6'11". If he was between 6'9" and 6'10", he'd make sure the Cavs listed him at 6'10". They list him at 6'9". The running joke is that his fro is taller...Kyrie told him he should keep it going and that he'd be 7'0" by Christmas.

TT was 131st in the league in Blocks per 48 minutes...that's 51st out of 64 Power Forwards...16 Point Guards and Shooting Guards ranked higher. For someone who is "actually of average size for even a center", that's pretty sad.

IF it makes you all feel better i'll rephrase - Power forwards of any size that can rebound, but can't spread the floor and don't block shots, should not get $12-14M a year. They are easily replaceable.

I agree that if Tristan tops out at your last sentence("Power forwards of any size that can rebound, but can't spread the floor and don't block shots, should not get $12-14M a year. They are easily replaceable.") then that type of production is essentially replaceable. But given our salary cap situation, what options do we have? If we were to let Tristan walk, could we really replace him with the taxpayer MLE or a vet minimum? If not, we would have to trade another piece to replace his role(3rd big in our 3 man big rotation, elite offensive rebounder). I agree that there has to be a limit or number that we don't go over, but it's tricky since we can't just use the money we'd spend on him on a FA.

My second question is this: Looking at how much he has been able to transform his free throw stroke(not just the % but the actual mechanics, ball rotation, and lack of rim rattlers) should we have any hope that he can in fact extend his range. Obviously not to Love levels, but at least to a decent 10-15 shot, much like Andy has been able to develop over time?
 
Again, just listing the height of a player is not going to convince me he is undersized.

Hell AB is 6'3 and people argued with me until they were blue that he wasn't undersized :chuckle:

TT is definitely an acceptable size for a PF for me. Despite reports everything I have heard suggests he certainly didn't grow to 6'11 like some people want to believe though. I really like TT, hope we can find a way to keep him at a reasonable price.

The new reasonable might look crazy though with the incoming TV revenue.
 
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12m a year?
just get reggie evans for now, same purpose
 
12m a year?
just get reggie evans for now, same purpose

That is a poor comparison being made by simply using raw rebounding stats and per36 stats more than anything. There is a reason Evans has played for so many teams. There are reasons has averaged under 20 mpg in his NBA career. The guy is turning 35 next season. He is a far worse FT shooter than Tristan. Has never blocked more than 16 shots in a single season. Is a worse shooter from the field.

Just a poor/lazy comparison all around. I mean, if you want to suggest a realistic way to replace Tristan, go for it. But keep in mind in next years FA market we will be limited vet min guys and the taxpayer MLE. Yes we have the Bogans TPE and the Haywood contract next year, but you have to find a partner to dance with and a player worth acquiring. So start visualizing our front line next year as just Love and Andy next year and then come up with realistic ways to add a 3rd(and ideally 4th) big to that mix. Don't just throw out lazy, two sentence poor comparisons like "lets just get Reggie Evans"
 
That is a poor comparison being made by simply using raw rebounding stats and per36 stats more than anything. There is a reason Evans has played for so many teams. There are reasons has averaged under 20 mpg in his NBA career. The guy is turning 35 next season. He is a far worse FT shooter than Tristan. Has never blocked more than 16 shots in a single season. Is a worse shooter from the field.

Just a poor/lazy comparison all around. I mean, if you want to suggest a realistic way to replace Tristan, go for it. But keep in mind in next years FA market we will be limited vet min guys and the taxpayer MLE. Yes we have the Bogans TPE and the Haywood contract next year, but you have to find a partner to dance with and a player worth acquiring. So start visualizing our front line next year as just Love and Andy next year and then come up with realistic ways to add a 3rd(and ideally 4th) big to that mix. Don't just throw out lazy, two sentence poor comparisons like "lets just get Reggie Evans"

Ok, fair enough..
for comparison Terrence Jones will be a free agent in 2016
Is TT really better than Terrence Jones? Jones is a great rebounder, good scorer and a soft hand around the hoop

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my fault I got confused , I just can't see TT as a legit 12m a year, no way.
I like this guy, he seems nice and intelligent just not worth it and I bet he still wants to stay on a championship team regardless
 
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Ok, fair enough..
for comparison Terrence Jones of Rockets signed a 4 year deal with the rockets for 7m a year
Is TT really better than Terrence Jones? Jones is a great rebounder, good scorer and a soft hand around the hoop

No, he didn't.
 
Wouldn't you think trading TT+Wiggins for Love and Dieng, keep the picks and Bennet be better cap wise and skill wise?
I think TT kind player can be found in an annualy first round pick especially for a championship team,
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