True Crime: Infamous Crimes, Unsolved Mysteries and the Like

[Sebastian]

The top true crime are Jon Bennett, D.B. Cooper, and Cleveland Torso Murders.

Grisly.

My dad told me that my grandmother would tell him and his siblings they'd end up in Kingsbury if they didn't stop misbehaving.

Don't they think Dr. Sweeney did it? Once he committed himself to a mental hospital the were no more murders.

The most current true crime I’m interested in is Amy Malhaljevic. I’m often up late at night researching trying to solve it.

I had not heard of it before. In my neck of the woods, the Jacob Wetterling abduction, which occurred two days after Amy's taking, dominated the news for a long time.

What are your thoughts? The Science Center logbook and proximity of the phone calls to other little girls are strong leads that have seemingly gone nowhere.

@Hydroponic3385, have you ever employed your Psych Powers to profile killers?

 

[The Voice]

Grisly.

My dad told me that my grandmother would tell him and his siblings they'd end up in Kingsbury if they didn't stop misbehaving.

Don't they think Dr. Sweeney did it? Once he committed himself to a mental hospital the were no more murders

As I recall (haven’t read up on it in a while) after Ness found the body right outside his office, he decided to burn down the slums in Cleveland. After the slums were burned, their was no more murders. My thoughts were, maybe the killer lived in the slums and was forced to relocate or died in the fire.

 

[Phills14]

Ted Bundy was electrocuted 30 years ago today. A Netflix documentary and another full movie about him staring Zac Efron will be released this week.

 

[Sebastian]

Ted Bundy was electrocuted 30 years ago today. A Netflix documentary and another full movie about him staring Zac Efron will be released this week.

Oh, those abs.

 

[The Voice]

Who killed Natalie Wood?

 

[redscoon]

Currently reading I'll Be Gone In the Dark.

 

[Sebastian]

On tonight's episode of the "Smiley Face Killers," they determined that Luke Homan's death was not accidental, and that it is likely he did not drown. There were some interesting things they brought up including that the body was only in the water for less than 12 hours, he was missing for three days, that he received a number of bruises and abrasions while still alive.

His disappearance and death was a big deal in WI at the time.

And our very own Joe Thomas was Luke's teammate at Brookfield Central High School. Luke was his quarterback. He participates in the Luke Homan Classic every year.


I recommend watching the episode and the series in general. It is available On Demand. Would like to discuss weekly episodes with folks.

 

[The Voice]

On tonight's episode of the "Smiley Face Killers," they determined that Luke Homan's death was not accidental, and that it is likely he did not drown. There were some interesting things they brought up including that the body was only in the water for less than 12 hours, he was missing for three days, that he received a number of bruises and abrasions while still alive.

His disappearance and death was a big deal in WI at the time.

And our very own Joe Thomas was Luke's teammate at Brookfield Central High School. Luke was his quarterback. He participates in the Luke Homan Classic every year.


I recommend watching the episode and the series in general. It is available On Demand. Would like to discuss weekly episodes with folks.

Where was joe at the date and time of the murder. He appears to be smiley in the picture. Coincidence?

They say the killer always returns to the crime scene. Also who would he feel more protected around then his tackle?

 

[Sebastian]

Where was joe at the date and time of the murder. He appears to be smiley in the picture. Coincidence?

Probably fishing. That is why he is my favorite.

 

[The Voice]

Probably fishing. That is why he is my favorite.

“Fishing” is also near the water... does he have anyone that will confirm what he was doing other then Luke?

 

[The Oi]

Speaking of Smiley Face Killers...

There’s a good podcast about the original Smiley Face Killer I just finished. Real sonofabitch.

These true crime podcasts, books etc are so fascinating that until you hear/read ones that are focused on the victims and their families or the families of the killers its easy to forget that all of their lives were destroyed by these people we’re so interested in.

This one focuses on his daughter and the son of the victim whose murder ultimately got him caught. POS was winking at the kid in court and taunting him about her from prison. That’s infuriating to me.

Additionally...almost without exception, serial killers experienced severe abuse just prior to becoming hardwired as the psychopathic/sociopathic personalities that lead to the murderous people they ultimately become. They were almost all victims at one point too. So you’ve usually got their parents to blame as well. Not defending, just pointing out that for people completely lacking in empathy the children that became the terrible monsters they ultimately became certainly deserved some.

It’s a strange world we live in where people abuse each other so horribly.

 

[redscoon]

I've watched both episodes. It's tough to compact these cases into hour long episodes while giving you enough information to develop an intelligent opinion. The investigators certainly come off biased and make some logical leaps that I'm not willing to make, but we are only getting a small piece of the pie from an evidentiary standpoint.

I'll have to look into the cases further, but I don't think the show has been very convincing.

 

[Sebastian]

I've watched both episodes. It's tough to compact these cases into hour long episodes while giving you enough information to develop an intelligent opinion. The investigators certainly come off biased and make some logical leaps that I'm not willing to make, but we are only getting a small piece of the pie from an evidentiary standpoint.

I'll have to look into the cases further, but I don't think the show has been very convincing.

I think one take away from the whole situation is that police departments are too quick to dismiss the death of young man who is found in a river as nothing more than "He was drunk so he drowned." Of course, in the absence of a red flag, they have no reason to suspect otherwise. In the Homan case, LAX Police is notorious for refusing to look into the large number of drownings that have happened over the past 20 years.

After looking at this stuff for 13 years I have concluded that it is very doubtful that a group is doing this for the simple fact someone would have spilled the beans by now.

That isn't to say there aren't possible groups that do such things. Because there are.

Whether or not there is such a gang involved in these cases these guys are doing a service because some of this drownings were no doubt not accidents nor suicide. Chris Jenkins' case was only re-evaluated and elevated to homicide thanks in part to the effort of the Gannon and Duarte.

 

[The Voice]

I think one take away from the whole situation is that police departments are too quick to dismiss the death of young man who is found in a river as nothing more than "He was drunk so he drowned." Of course, in the absence of a red flag, they have no reason to suspect otherwise. In the Homan case, LAX Police is notorious for refusing to look into the large number of drownings that have happened over the past 20 years.

After looking at this stuff for 13 years I have concluded that it is very doubtful that a group is doing this for the simple fact someone would have spilled the beans by now.

That isn't to say there aren't possible groups that do such things. Because there are.

Whether or not there is such a gang involved in these cases these guys are doing a service because some of this drownings were no doubt not accidents nor suicide. Chris Jenkins' case was only re-evaluated and elevated to homicide thanks in part to the effort of the Gannon and Duarte.

It’s easy to say they drowned case solved and then they don’t have unsolved murders on their hands. Large cities have a terrible solve rate already on their hands.

 

[MGMT]

Speaking of Smiley Face Killers...

There’s a good podcast about the original Smiley Face Killer I just finished. Real sonofabitch.

These true crime podcasts, books etc are so fascinating that until you hear/read ones that are focused on the victims and their families or the families of the killers its easy to forget that all of their lives were destroyed by these people we’re so interested in.

This one focuses on his daughter and the son of the victim whose murder ultimately got him caught. POS was winking at the kid in court and taunting him about her from prison. That’s infuriating to me.

Additionally...almost without exception, serial killers experienced severe abuse just prior to becoming hardwired as the psychopathic/sociopathic personalities that lead to the murderous people they ultimately become. They were almost all victims at one point too. So you’ve usually got their parents to blame as well. Not defending, just pointing out that for people completely lacking in empathy the children that became the terrible monsters they ultimately became certainly deserved some.

It’s a strange world we live in where people abuse each other so horribly.

Absolutely. Conditioning is absolutely wild. Let’s say — for the sake of argument — that most are indeed prior victims themselves and this functions as a catalyst for some sort of mental illness. Is actual treatment something to consider rather than retribution in some of these occurrences? I don’t personally think that’s viable given the adverse reactions you’d see from families of victims.

I think of course some persons are just innately sadistic and bad nothing inflicted upon them that would be considered causation. Just consider them errors in the genetic coding process or something.