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[The Oi]

No. Karma.

Would you make a serious effort to avenge a molestation/rape/killing of a loved one if you found out about it 5-10 years later or found 100% proof of the person who did it?

Haven't been in the situation and they do say time heals all wounds. But I think that probably, yes. If I thought I wouldn't get caught, I'd try to find and torture the person. More than anything, this would come down to whether I was close to 100% confident I wouldn't get caught. Secondly, whether I was still angry enough at the time that the opportunity to arose to do so. I'm not certain about the anger, obviously.

Morals wouldn't factor in.

Really?

That's interesting...

I'd ask what you mean by this but, personally, I'm not keen on discussing such hypothetical scenarios dealing with people's wives or children, so I'll leave it at that.

The situation I'm envisioning is the one you originally mentioned where someone is "dogging out" my wife in a club, then she calls me over and tells me who's dogging her out, as if she's wanting me to come and defend her honor by fighting the guy.

I am attracted to women who wouldn't have wanted to go to a club in the first place. Or the type of place where there's going to be drunken idiots that will have clear shots at hitting on her before someone can remove them from the situation.

I just can't envision a realistic scenario containing a woman I'd have been attracted to enough to marry would find herself in a situation that would lead me to fight someone else.

The type of woman I was picturing in your original scenario was the type of woman I'd have steered clear from the second she told me she was into going to clubs or described a situation where a previous boyfriend/husband got into a fight over/about her.

 

[theSwayze]

Is this the thread where we all lie about our penis size? I heard there was one going on somewhere here and this sure seems like the right one.

 

[The Oi]

But seriously, I'm not even entering the point of "junk talking".

There was a time where this was definitely not me. This is definitely me now.

I find that I'm able to sniff out scenarios like this well in advance, and they generally don't happen when you go out to dinner with a few other couples, to smoke some cigars at the country club or when people come to my house for a barbecue.

I go plenty of places and do plenty of things. I just don't go to places where these types of things are likely to happen.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Haven't been in the situation and they do say time heals all wounds. But I think that probably, yes. If I thought I wouldn't get caught, I'd try to find and torture the person. More than anything, this would come down to whether I was close to 100% confident I wouldn't get caught. Secondly, whether I was still angry enough at the time that the opportunity to arose to do so. I'm not certain about the anger, obviously.

Morals wouldn't factor in.



The situation I'm envisioning is the one you originally mentioned where someone is "dogging out" my wife in a club, then she calls me over and tells me who's dogging her out, as if she's wanting me to come and defend her honor by fighting the guy.

I am attracted to women who wouldn't have wanted to go to a club in the first place. Or the type of place where there's going to be drunken idiots that will have clear shots at hitting on her before someone can remove them from the situation.

I just can't envision a realistic scenario containing a woman I'd have been attracted to enough to marry would find herself in a situation that would lead me to fight someone else.

The type of woman I was picturing in your original scenario was the type of woman I'd have steered clear from the second she told me she was into going to clubs or described a situation where a previous boyfriend/husband got into a fight over/about her.

But you said it yourself a few pages back, you wouldn't want to do something stupid. Now, your (hopefully healing) molested son (for example) might be without his father after you DO get caught and thrown in jail OR you get killed by the family/friend of the guy avenging HIS death.

Can you ever be THAT sure to take such a risk? Do you think the perpetrator might actually have a tougher time dealing with what he did rather than being dead? I get the torture thing.....but are you sure you could live with yourself - let alone deal with the psychological ramifications of doing such a thing?

 

[The Oi]

But you said it yourself a few pages back, you wouldn't want to do something stupid. Now, your (hopefully healing) molested son (for example) might be without his father after you DO get caught and thrown in jail OR you get killed by the family/friend of the guy avenging HIS death.

I would never forgive myself if any action I ever took left my wife without a husband or my son without a father.

Can you ever be THAT sure to take such a risk?

It's tough to envision a PERFECT crime. I've thought it out and can't come up with a scenario where I could kill someone and have nearly 0% chance of being caught.

I've just always wondered if enough anger could generate a plan to do so.

Do you think the perpetrator might actually have a tougher time dealing with what he did rather than being dead?

I sincerely doubt it. If someone has the type of mind that would cause them to harm a child intentionally, I think the chances are infinitesimal that they wouldn't have enjoyed doing it. Or that they wouldn't do it again providing the right circumstances.

I get the torture thing.....but are you sure you could live with yourself - let alone deal with the physcological ramifications of doing such a thing?

This is the thing I have the least amount of doubt about. I'm very confident I could torture someone that I believed deserved it and could handle the psychological ramifications.

 

[godfather]

@gourimoko is the only person in this thread that's ever kicked someone's ass. Everyone else in here has ran away from any fight scenario they were likely to encounter.

Me included.
So cowards, come join me over here....

Just in case I'm wrong, and I miscalculated a few of you, and you're now tracking down my IP address and going to beat my ass.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Not trying to take a side again here but he made me feel like I was somehow less of a man because I told him words weren't worth going to jail, or getting my ass kicked or seriously injured, or worse

The only thing that would make you less of a man is if you let gouri (or anyone else) make you feel like less of a man.

Do what you think is right, not what someone else thinks you should do.

When I was young and stupid, I didn't see a problem with going after someone like that. Then I got out of high school, and learned lives could be wrecked by that shit. Only had one civilian fight since then, and I really had no choice.

Others may think differently, but the smart move is to walk away.

@godfather

Sometimes you can.lose even if you win. That one fight, I hurt some guy pretty badly but the cops were nice and let me go without taking names. Could have caused me career problems if it had been reported.

'Course, you can lose when you lose - done that too.

 

[Otsego Mar]

I would never forgive myself if any action I ever took left my wife without a husband or my son without a father.



It's tough to envision a PERFECT crime. I've thought it out and can't come up with a scenario where I could kill someone and have nearly 0% chance of being caught.

I've just always wondered if enough anger could generate a plan to do so.




I sincerely doubt it. If someone has the type of mind that would cause them to harm a child intentionally, I think the chances are infinitesimal that they wouldn't have enjoyed doing it. Or that they wouldn't do it again providing the right circumstances.




This is the thing I have the least amount of doubt about. I'm very confident I could torture someone that I believed deserved it and could handle the psychological ramifications.

When you break out my posts like that, I can't help but feel as if you are the alter ego of gouri.

Freakin' cracka ass mofo.

 

[The Oi]

When you break out my posts like that, I can't help but feel as if you are the alter ego of gouri.

Freakin' cracka ass mofo.

Unless it's a Tyler Durden scenario (spoiler alert), I'm definitely not gouri.

While I understand his takes on just about everything, I only agree with or relate to about 85% of them.

 

[Chris]

The only thing that would make you less of a man is if you let gouri (or anyone else) make you feel like less of a man.

Do what you think is right, not what someone else thinks you should do.

When I was young and stupid, I didn't see a problem with going after someone like that. Then I got out of high school, and learned lives could be wrecked by that shit. Only had one civilian fight since then, and I really had no choice.

Others may think differently, but the smart move is to walk away.

@godfather

Sometimes you can.lose even if you win. That one fight, I hurt some guy pretty badly but the cops were nice and let me go without taking names. Could have caused me career problems if it had been reported.

'Course, you can lose when you lose - done that too.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that I actually felt that way. I'm pretty fucking proud of the adversity I've overcome in my life and am a very confident person at this point. I don't think it's arrogant or ego driven for me to say that the stuff I've been through would break a lot of people and it's only made me stronger than ever. Simply meant that his statements were kind of demeaning, although I'm sure that wasn't intended.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that I actually felt that way. I'm pretty fucking proud of the adversity I've overcome in my life and am a very confident person at this point. Simply meant that his statements were kind of demeaning, although I'm sure that wasn't intended.

Yeah, sorry.

Oi has it right, though. If you've got familial responsibilities, fighting is pretty damn selfish on top of all the other reasons.

 

[natedagg]

i have never thought of or wanted to torture anyone. That is weird.

I would fight someone only if I was out of control with rage. This could likely only happen with family-related threats. Things can happen really fast though with friends and alcohol.

I never worried about guns, I worried about being blindsided and stomped on my skull by 3 dudes at once. I agree w Surge tho: back "then" it just seemed like people fought, punched and wrestled, then got tired or one person kinda won and put on the brakes. I feel like this kind of thing was pretty harmless or maybe even healthy as a release.

In San Diego I was at a bar and told a guy he looked like Bubba Sparx. He got heated so I said sorry. He was still furious so I said if you are going to hit me, do it while I am looking. He went away, and then when I wasn't looking punched me in the side of the head and ear. Then he got kicked out and the night continued. He punched like a bitch.

 

[gourimoko]

@gourimoko did you just automatically assume the racial slur accusations were true?

No. If you read my posts in this thread you'd see I addressed this twice already.

 

[gourimoko]

The only thing that would make you less of a man is if you let gouri (or anyone else) make you feel like less of a man.

Dude, why are you so worried about what the fuck I'm saying?

It's like the 10th time in a week my name has come out of your mouth.

 

[Chris]

No. If you read my posts in this thread you'd see I addressed this twice already.

.

Like this post of yours on Page 2?

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.. guy got what was coming to him....

Sure, things should've went differently, but they didn't. He's no victim.. Fuck him.

After which you no doubt backtracked fast as hell, but still. I made my comment after reading this one.