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Discussion in 'Trades, Free Agency, & the Draft' started by Tornicade, Apr 22, 2012.

  1. Tornicade

    Tornicade High five!

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    I got the first ten Teams started. Ill list the other ten later. of course ill revise at the end of season
    Bubble protected picks are noted.
    estimated Team Salaries for 2012-2013 are included.
    Notable Free Agents are listed. I did not list the min free agents
    Players listed as signed have multiple years. some listed may be have options the following year.

    The Idea is too get a good feel for where teams are at roster wise and what they might be willing to do. The Chart is meant as an overall reference guide to get a better on the fly idea of a teams overall roster situation going into the draft.

    feel free to point out oversights so they can be corrected.

    If you want contract details and such. Realgm, hoopsype and of course realcavsfans are good sources. Also http://storytellerscontracts.com/ for in depth Salary info.

    Estimated salary ranges could indicate either an existing amnesty or with an without options. This is intended to give a good idea of a team base flexibility salary wise.

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    </th><th>Own </th><th>2nd round</th><th>Committed Salary</th><th>Team Options</th><th>Player Options</th><th>Players Signed</th><th>RFA's</th><th>Free Agents with established salary</th><th>Expiring</th></tr> <tr><td>Charlotte</td><td>Protected</td><td>Own</td><td>43,191,000 to 61.447,0000</td><td>None</td><td>Deganna Diop, Matt Carroll,</td><td>Tyrus Thomas, Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker, </td><td>DJ Augustin, DJ White</td><td>Boris Diaw, Ed Najero, </td><td>Reggie Williams, Gerald Henderson, BJ Mullens</td></tr> <tr><td>Washington</td><td>Own </td><td>protected</td><td>59,097,000</td><td>None</td><td>None</td><td>Nene Hilario, Andray Blatche, John Wall, Jan Vesely, Kevin Seraphin, Chris singleton, Trevor Booker, Jordan Crawford</td><td>None</td><td>
    </td><td>Rashard Lewis, </td></tr> <tr><td>Sacramento</td><td>Protected</td><td>Own</td><td>40,193,000 or/to 46,300,000</td><td>Tyler Honeycutt, Hassan Whiteside,</td><td>None</td><td>John Salmons, Marcus, Thornton, Francisco Garcia, Chuck Hayes, Tyreke Evans, Demarcu Cousins, Travis Outlaw, Jimmer Fredette. Isiaah Thomas</td><td>Jason Thompson, Donte greene</td><td>
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    </td></tr> <tr><td>New Orleans</td><td>Minnesota, Own</td><td>None
    </td><td>36,844,000 to 46,000,000</td><td>None</td><td>None</td><td>Emeka Okafor, Trvor Ariza, Al Farouq aminue, Jason Smith, Xavier Henry, Gustavo Ayon, Gravus Vasquez,</td><td>Eric Gordon</td><td>Chris Kaman, Carl landry</td><td>Jarret Jack</td></tr> <tr><td>Cleveland</td><td>Own, Lakers</td><td>New Orleans, Own</td><td>45.955.000 or 31,105,000.</td><td>Daniel Gibson</td><td>None</td><td>Anderson Varejoa, Kyre Irving Tristan Thompson, Samardo Samuels, Manny Harris,Donald Sloan
    </td><td>None</td><td>Antawn Jamison, Anthony Parker, Alonzo Gee, Luke Harangody, Semih Erden
    </td><td>Luke Walton Omri Casspi</td></tr> <tr><td>Toronto</td><td>Own </td><td>Indiana, Own</td><td>45,600,000</td><td>Solomon Alabi</td><td>None</td><td>Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Linus Kleiza, Ed Davis</td><td>Jerryd Bayless</td><td>
    </td><td>Jose Calderon, Demar Derozen, James Johnson, Gary Forbes</td></tr> <tr><td>New Jersey</td><td>None
    </td><td>None</td><td>46,160,000</td><td>Damion James</td><td>Deron Williams. Gerald Wallce, Jordan Farmer</td><td>Marshon Brooks</td><td>Brook Lopez</td><td>Kris Humprhies, Deshawn Stevenson</td><td>Anthony Morrow, Johan Petro, </td></tr> <tr><td>Golden State</td><td>San Antonio</td><td>New Jersey</td><td>55,402,000</td><td>
    </td><td>None</td><td>Andrew Bogut, David Lee, Klay Thompson, Adrien Biens, Richard Jefferson</td><td>Brandon rush</td><td>
    </td><td>Stephen Curry, Dorell Wright</td></tr> <tr><td>Detroit</td><td>Own </td><td>Houston,Own</td><td>50,000,000 to 56,500,000</td><td>Greg Monroe, Austin Daye</td><td>Jason Maxiell</td><td>Ben Gordon, Rodney Stuckey, C Villanueva, Jonas Jerebko, Brandon Knight</td><td>
    </td><td>Ben Wallace</td><td>Will Bynum</td></tr> <tr><td>Minnesota</td><td>Utah
    </td><td>protected to Portland</td><td> 47,000,000
    </td><td>Martell Webster, Brad Miller, </td><td>None</td><td>Darko Milicic, JJ Berea, Kevin Love, Derrick Williams, Wesley Johnson, Ricky Rubio, Malcom Lee</td><td>Michael Beasley, Anthony Randolph</td><td>Anthony Tolliver</td><td>Nikola Pekovic, Martell Webster, Brad Miller, Wayne ellington</td></tr></tbody></table><style type="text/css">
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    </th><th>Own </th><th>2nd round</th><th>Committed Salary</th><th>Team Options</th><th>Player Options</th><th>Players Signed</th><th>RFA's</th><th>Free Agents with established salary</th><th>Expiring</th></tr> <tr><td>Portland</td><td>New Jersey (top 3 protected), Own</td><td>Minnesota, Own</td><td> 32,000,000 or 48,000,00
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    </td><td> Jamal crawford, Shawne Williams
    </td><td> Lamarcus Alridge, Wesley Matthews, Luke Babbitt, Elliot Williams, Nolan smith
    </td><td> Nicolas Batum
    </td><td> JJ Hickson, Hasbith Thabeet, Raymond Felton, Johnny flynn, Kurt Thomas
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    </td></tr> <tr><td>Milwaukee</td><td>Own </td><td>Protected (top 44)</td><td> 45,000,000
    </td><td> Shaun Livingston
    </td><td> Beno Udrih
    </td><td> Drew Gooden, Luc Mbah Moute, ekp Udoh, Brandon Jennings, Larry Sanders, Monta ellis, Tobias harris
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    </td><td> Kwame brown, Delfino, Ersan Ilyasova?,
    </td><td> Jon Brockman, Mike Dunleavy
    </td></tr> <tr><td>Phoenix</td><td>Own </td><td>Own to Atlanta</td><td> 30,,700,000
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    </td></tr> <tr><td>Houston</td><td>New York
    </td><td>None</td><td>30,000,000 to 41,300,000</td><td>Samuel Dalembart, Patrick Patterson, Chase Budinger</td><td>
    </td><td>Luis Scola. Kyle Lowry, Marcus Morris</td><td>Courtney Lee,</td><td>Marcus Camby, gordon Dragic</td><td>Kevin Martin,</td></tr> <tr><td>Philadelphia</td><td>Own </td><td>Memphis, Own</td><td> 55,956,000
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    </td><td> Andrew Igoudala, Evan Turner, Nikola Vucevic, Thaddeus Young
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    </td><td> Andrew Nocioni, Spencer Hawes, Jodie Meeks, Sam Young, Tony Battie
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    </td><td> Jamal Tinsley
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    </td><td> Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, Gordon Hayward, Alec Burks
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    </td><td> Al Jefferson,devin Harris, Paul Milsap, Raja Bell, Earl Watson,
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    </td><td> Carmelo anthony, Amare Stoudamire, Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert
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    </td><td> Baron Davis, Mike Bibby, Jared Jeffries, Jeremy Lin, Landry Fields, Dan Gadzuric
    </td><td>Toney Douglas, Jerome Jordan, Josh Harrelson
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  2. kovanovich

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    NO doesn't have the Cavs' second round pick. Cavs have their own second rounder plus NO's second rounder (via Miami).
     
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    mofire Situational Stopper

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    pretty sure that means that New orleans 2nd round pick is owned by Cleveland.
     
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    Information gets moved inadvertently sometimes when messing with a database. I am more than happy to make corrections on oversights.

    Depending on the lottery Draw . Cavs might be able to wheel and deal with Washington , Sacramento and Minnesota.
     
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    Rab is going to be pissed.
     
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    I cleaned it up a little
     
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    wuck Hustling on the inside Staff Member

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    The Nets no longer will get the Houston pick (since Houston missed the playoffs), so Houston could be added to the chart. They might be a possible trade partner.

    There is an outside chance that NJ could retain their own lottery pick; otherwise Portland could be added -- won't know for sure about this until after the May 30 draft lottery.
     
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    Re: the chart. - Didn't the Cavs sign Sloan to a non-guaranteed contract for next year?

    I also don't see 4 draftees on the roster next season. I think the chances of packaging 2 picks to move up are about 80%.
     
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    daytripper Miracle of Richfield

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    It's early but I see Minnesota and possibly New Orleans as potential trade targets. Should be interesting to see what kind of moves Grant makes this offseason.

    Personally still love the potential of Derrick Williams and think he would be a great fit with Kyrie. Yes we have TT as our defensive young big but wouldn't mind adding someone like Williams for offense. He's being wasted behind KLove in Minny. If Utah makes the playoffs Minny will also have a pick just outside the lottery. Like the Cavs they really need a wing but there could be several potential trade scenarios with them involving picks.

    Could New Orleans be open to trading their 2nd lottery pick? They will have to give Gordon a huge new contract to keep him. Maybe they could be open to dealing a pick or trading down if some team takes on a bad contract such as Okafor or Ariza?
     
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    I was just saying in general, since he's the resident charts/tables guy around here.

    Just joking around.
     
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    CleveRocks There go the Cavs!

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    I am thinking Portland maybe. Either they could look to move aldridge and start over or they need a right now center. I am thinking they might trade one of thier firsts for Andy and the LA pick. They need to give someone back, but Mathews or Crawford would work financially. They could pick up Marshall or lamb with the first pick, and either Mountie, melo, or ezieli with the lakers pick.
     
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    the picks are respresented in the first two columns. the salary projections do not factor in the rookie salaries.
     
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    my chart is the top 20 but i didnt have the roster stuff for the other teams so I had not updated them yet. I went ahead and put the pick list up.. ill fill out the rosters tomorrow.

    I put The houston pick as protected in case houston did not make the playoffs. Ill go through at the end of regular season and finalize whatever bubble picks I can.

    I did list the top 3 protectd for portland but I didnt list yet. they updated now.
     
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    Portland, Philly and New York have alot of free agents.
    New york Utah , Minnesota and Toronto are loaded with expiring contracts.

    Washington , Sacramento, Milwaukee have over 8 players signed for the next two years (includes 2nd year options)

    Washington, New York, philly and detroit are limited salary wise. Charlotte has alot of decisions to make.
     
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    Nice list, good work.

    Anyone have the 2012-13 projections for the NBA Salary Cap?
     
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    The Salary cap wont released until July. but it is projected to be slightly above the 58 million it has been the last 2 years.

    The New york Post did project it to be around 60-61 million.
     
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    In reality, I do it the hard way, I think Douglar also likes to do some fancy stuff, but Tornicade does have some neat tables, but I think he uses a data base to make it. But man, that was funny :chuckles:.

    That gives me an idea on what Avatar graphic to do next ;).
     
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    Think teams are required to be at 85% of cap. Maybe 90% not sure. And wonder what happens if they are not at that %?
     
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    2011 CBA: Teams pay $1 for every $1 their salary is above the luxury-tax threshold in 2011-12 and 2012-13. Starting in 2012-13, teams pay an incremental tax that increases with every $5 million above the tax threshold ($1.50, $1.75, $2.50, $3.25, etc.). Teams that are repeat offenders (paying tax at least four out of the past five seasons) have a tax that is higher still -- $1 more at each increment ($2.50, $2.75, $3.50, $4.25, etc.).


    if its under the percentage they have to pay it anyways. Sacremento kings were under the cap and had to trade for a player just to meet the min

    at 58 million the league min was 43.5 . at 85% 49.3 , at 90% 52.2 million.

    The goal is to lessen the discrepancies on payroll. Salary discrepencies overall in the NBA do not have as big as an impact on wins as in other leagues. It was too easy for a team to lowball their roster and make a profit while still collecting additional revenue from the tax paying teams.

    This is the NBA's best shot at parity given the already low dollar to win ratio in the nba
     
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    Douglar Intentionally Grounded Staff Member

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    Most of the $12.5 still owed to Baron Davis will count towards the salary floor minimum, so the Cavs should make the floor pretty easily.

    If your team doesn't make the minimum floor, the owner has to pay the difference between the team salary and the min team floor out to his players. It's an instant bonus for everyone on the roster.
     
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