Who's Gone This Offseason?

[Ohio]

Pettine and his coaching staff gets cleaned out (although I would be fine with keeping some of the offensive staff around if the next coach is okay with it), Farmer gets a second shot with his guy as HC (I think partly because he fell on the sword for Haslam in the texting debacle), and Johnny is our QB going into next season as we use our first pick on Bosa or Nkemdiche.

Edit: Basically worst case scenario for the majority of this board.

Is this what you predict, or what you want?

 

[Birdy89]

Farmer will go. Manziel and Gilbert? Erving? Good god.

Pettine will get one final shot to prove himself and will likely have to sacrifice someone, probably the D-Coordinator.

If Farmer goes Pettine goes.

No scenario in which Pettine stays but Farmer goes. It is possible for Farmer to stay but Pettine to go, but not the other way around.

No GM is going to come into another one of these arranged marriages where you have to keep a coach that isn't your guy. All that will do is waste another year until the GM fires him to hire their guy.

New GM always wants to hire their own coach. We have seen too many examples of trying it the other way in this town and having it fail, only to have to have another "second first year."

 

[AZ_]

The entire front office and coaching staff NEED to go.

I am nervous though that Jimmy won't do it, particularly because he has no interest in paying 3 sets of coaches next year.

He's had rather shallow pockets since he got here, and I suspect he might be looking at the cost of another overhaul as prohibitive given what it would cost to get qualified people in here on top of paying 2 fired staffs.

I had thought it was a foregone conclusion everyone goes, but something just doesn't seem right.

Yeah you've been using the cheap schtick for a while now.

 

[spydy13]

Is this what you predict, or what you want?

My prediction, as I don't think Jimmy has the stomach for a total rebuild at the moment but probably knows he has to hold somebody accountable for this disaster of a season.

As for what I want, I don't have a problem with keeping Farmer because I think he has brought in some decent players (although there have been plenty of stinkers too), but I think having a cohesive team building strategy between FO and the coaching staff would be quite helpful.

I would also be okay with continuing on the development track with Johnny if he continues to improve in his playing time down the stretch, because while Goff and Lynch are clearly better QB prospects than Johnny, I think that if he shows he can be good enough then I would take the opportunity to draft one of the top D-line prospects since that is still a huge area of need.

So I guess depending on what happens down the stretch you could say that's what I want.

 

[Mr. Orange]

My prediction, as I don't think Jimmy has the stomach for a total rebuild at the moment but probably knows he has to hold somebody accountable for this disaster of a season.

As for what I want, I don't have a problem with keeping Farmer because I think he has brought in some decent players (although there have been plenty of stinkers too), but I think having a cohesive team building strategy between FO and the coaching staff would be quite helpful.

I would also be okay with continuing on the development track with Johnny if he continues to improve in his playing time down the stretch, because while Goff and Lynch are clearly better QB prospects than Johnny, I think that if he shows he can be good enough then I would take the opportunity to draft one of the top D-line prospects since that is still a huge area of need.

So I guess depending on what happens down the stretch you could say that's what I want.

No DL. Has to be Goff or Lynch if we have that opportunity.

 

[FiveThous]

Everyone stays

 

[Kevalier]

How about adding Jimmy Haslam himself to the list? Here's an interesting scenario that I'll throw out there:

Jason La Canfora reported today that former 49ers owner and Youngstown native, Eddie DeBartolo is exploring opportunities to return to the NFL. He was in contact with Mark Davis about an ownership stake in the Raiders although Davis denied any such talks. However, with smoke already surfacing last spring regarding a Browns-Titans ownership swap, it wouldn't be completely abusrd to see a scenario where Haslam ended up selling the Browns to someone like DeBartolo and then purchasing the Titans. I suppose the bottom line is that this event unfolding would be the most beneficial transaction for this franchise as Haslam has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster since he bought the team. If he can end up taking the reins of the team he originally wanted to purchase, while the Cleveland area can cut its losses now with this unscrupulous stooge, then it's a win-win for everyone involved.

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[Ohio]

Haslam being gone would be gravy.

 

[Pick6]

How about adding Jimmy Haslam himself to the list? Here's an interesting scenario that I'll throw out there:

Jason La Canfora reported today that former 49ers owner and Youngstown native, Eddie DeBartolo is exploring opportunities to return to the NFL. He was in contact with Mark Davis about an ownership stake in the Raiders although Davis denied any such talks. However, with smoke already surfacing last spring regarding a Browns-Titans ownership swap, it wouldn't be completely abusrd to see a scenario where Haslam ended up selling the Browns to someone like DeBartolo and then purchasing the Titans. I suppose the bottom line is that this event unfolding would be the most beneficial transaction for this franchise as Haslam has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster since he bought the team. If he can end up taking the reins of the team he originally wanted to purchase, while the Cleveland area can cut its losses now with this unscrupulous stooge, then it's a win-win for everyone involved.

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Doesn't make much sense to me considering the Debartolo's still own the 49ers. I realize he isn't the direct owner anymore, but its still a family thing from what I know. Ex. Jed York, the son of Denis, is the President. Not to mention, the guy is a fucking crook. Haslam is bad enough.

 

[Pyro]

I don't think Jimmy is cheap. I just think he doesn't give a fuck anymore since he's going to prison sometime soon.

That's still happening, right?

 

[Surge]

Haslam being gone would be gravy.

 

[The Voice]

Guys gone: the whole coaching staff and front office.

Players gone: Kruger, Mingo, Bemjamin (signs elsewhere), Mack, McClown

Players Staying: Duke Johnson, Travis Coons, Bitonio, k'wan Williams, desir



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[redscoon]

Will be hard to keep any of the front office or coaching staff. We may finally be in a position to draft a franchise-course altering QB. Is anybody comfortable with Farmer making that choice?

Pettine is just another old fashioned football man in way over his head because we had to hire someone to coach this team. I don't know if Jimmy gets duped by guys who look the part and talk a good talk, but he is picking up right where Lerner left off. Either that or all the better options don't want to sink their careers by hitching their wagon to this organization. You can't botch GM and head coach hires and expect anything to change. All of our lack of development and poor drafts trace back to putting the wrong guys in charge.

There is literally nobody on this roster that would upset me if they didn't return next year. That's how bad things are here. There have been points where I thought we were a legit QB away from being a contender. Now, we need upgrades to half the starting line up to be in the mix. That's not even taking into consideration the lack of depth when injuries hit.

 

[Phills14]

How about adding Jimmy Haslam himself to the list? Here's an interesting scenario that I'll throw out there:

Jason La Canfora reported today that former 49ers owner and Youngstown native, Eddie DeBartolo is exploring opportunities to return to the NFL. He was in contact with Mark Davis about an ownership stake in the Raiders although Davis denied any such talks. However, with smoke already surfacing last spring regarding a Browns-Titans ownership swap, it wouldn't be completely abusrd to see a scenario where Haslam ended up selling the Browns to someone like DeBartolo and then purchasing the Titans. I suppose the bottom line is that this event unfolding would be the most beneficial transaction for this franchise as Haslam has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster since he bought the team. If he can end up taking the reins of the team he originally wanted to purchase, while the Cleveland area can cut its losses now with this unscrupulous stooge, then it's a win-win for everyone involved.

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Who called Haslam an "unscrupulous stooge"? LaCanfora? CBS let him get away with that?

 

[Huber.]

Why isn't Jimah ever on TV anymore? We need more gifs.