Who's Gone This Offseason?

[Hurl Bruce]

Front office all gone.

Manning part of the future?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-challenges-of-nfl-life-in-age-of-viral-media

Coaches all gone.

Johnny and Gilbert both gone for a couple bags of balls. Hopefully there's a sucker out there that will give up anything for either one of them. Since they play for the Browns, there's one less usual suspect in the sucker category.

 

[Kevalier]

Who called Haslam an "unscrupulous stooge"? LaCanfora? CBS let him get away with that?

No, those were my words.

 

[Pyro]

Who called Haslam an "unscrupulous stooge"? LaCanfora? CBS let him get away with that?

He tweeted out the words that were above (or, I guess, still are above) the entrance to Auschwitz without repercussion.

 

[Frank Reynolds]

This whole franchise is a compounding misery.

People on here suggesting that some team might be dumb enough to pony up something good for Manziel. LOL! Nobody is going to give up anything of value for Manziel, and his drinkin habit.

Seriously the only thing that could work for us would be a ritualistic cleansing.

You probably don't want this guy to be your coach, or the guy who picks up the phone as your general manager, but to head up this Brown's cleansing ceremony, who better of a guy than Bernie?

Kosar will be the head shaman, and everyone in attendance at the stadium will collectively drop acid to rid ourselves of this black magic team.

If Haslsm still owns the team at the time of ceremony, you're probably drinking that Jim Jones Kool aid, but anyways...

Haslem Sells the Team.

Manziel and Mccown are shipped off for peanuts.

Lose every remaining game this season and take the best QB or WR on the board.

Fire Farmer.

Fire Pettine.

Start over.


Who better to head up the ceremony for "Browns Reboot 2.0" than the guy who was promised a position but isn't really qualified to be the head coach, or General Manager.

Make Bernie the master of ceremonies. Let's ritualistically cleanse the city of the stink imposed upon nearly 15 years of football fandom

We need wholesale change.

 

[Pyro]

What if there is a great coach/GM combo out there, but they are allergic to peanuts?

 

[MoFlo]

Added a poll

 

[Goldin Brown]

I would say fire the Head Coach but then I'm not sure we could get anyone else to take the job.

 

[ajz20]

Pettine and his coaching staff gets cleaned out (although I would be fine with keeping some of the offensive staff around if the next coach is okay with it), Farmer gets a second shot with his guy as HC (I think partly because he fell on the sword for Haslam in the texting debacle), and Johnny is our QB going into next season as we use our first pick on Bosa or Nkemdiche.

Edit: Basically worst case scenario for the majority of this board.

Keeping Farmer would likely mean blowing a draft where we would be drafting in the top 4 each round. Haslem can't be that stupid, and I doubt he allows it.

 

[FiveThous]

There is literally nobody on this roster that would upset me if they didn't return next year.

OK.

 

[FiveThous]

If anyone is gone its Jim O'Neil. There's too much talent on the team to be this big of a joke. I don't think a "cleansing" is happening.

 

[Phills14]

I think Pettine has the tools to be a reasonable head coach in this league and I truly don't want to see him blown up.

Farmer I think should go. Talk around the league is that he is in over his head in this position. The conversation after the trade deadline was that it was unclear who was actually in charge. Combine that with the fact that he allowed the owner to override him on the Manziel pick. It sounds like Farmer talks a decent game but doesn't have a strong enough backbone to actually do the job.

Flip I think has done well with the garbage he has to work with. The RBs are one of the worst crops we've had since 1999. The wide receivers although productive are not diversified as their skill sets and body type are all identical. He's gotten the QBs to play well enough to win. He has some promise. The knock I have on him is no matter what PFF says, the offensive line has been a major disappointment this year even though we have a ton of talent there.

O'Neil I think is in over his head. There is talent on that side of the ball. He has had to deal with injuries but he has gotten almost every player this year to regress. It's a scheme problem in my opinion. He should go no matter what.

 

[macbdog]

Everybody should be gone. Complete rebuild, the sooner Haslam starts looking for replacements the easier it will be. Change the defense to a 4-3, too. Only untouchable player is Barnidge and he should be in every interview for the new FO and coach. Oh and the coach shoul be hired first so we know that they won't just be the GM's tool.

 

[Phills14]

Everybody should be gone. Complete rebuild, the sooner Haslam starts looking for replacements the easier it will be. Change the defense to a 4-3, too. Only untouchable player is Barnidge and he should be in every interview for the new FO and coach. Oh and the coach shoul be hired first so we know that they won't just be the GM's tool.

STOP CHANGING SCHEMES!!! Stick with the 3-4. It works in other places. It's proven. No reason to change to a 4-3 just because. We have a foundation with a 3-4. STICK WITH IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. STICK WITH SOMETHING!

 

[spydy13]

I think Pettine has the tools to be a reasonable head coach in this league and I truly don't want to see him blown up.

This comment, along with the poll above where more people want Farmer gone than Pet, has me a bit confused.

Not at all trying to troll, but what do people see from Pet that give them confidence in his future success?

Just honestly asking because I don't see it.

 

[Phills14]

I like the fact that Pet has stood his ground with the fans, front office and players. Manziel is a good example. He refuses to commit to Manziel because he knows he's not ready and Hoyer/McCown were better options on and off the field. Manziel has only played due to injuries. Gilbert is another one he's stood his ground with. Gilbert can't get on the field which most coaches would throw him out there to play because he was such a high draft pick.

For the most part, the locker room is under control. I don't remember major issues with players fighting or drama stories coming from that part of the team.

He seems to have a clear focus of what he wants his team to be. Run the ball, stop the run and play man to man d on the outside so you can rush the passer. Now I will admit his team hasn't performed that way but that seems to be how he builds the team and coaches the team.

All young coaches make mistakes and generally do a poor job early on. Pettine is cutting his teeth with a bad team. I want to see another year with him to see if he can make changes. Flipping coaches after 1-2 years is a great way to continue this crap we see. I think Pettine has the foundation to be a good coach, I think he needs time to refine his craft.