Will The Cavs Make a Major Move At The Trade Deadline?

[JSS2306]

Trade Andy for a top 5 pick!
















Then end up with a Tristan Thompson... :chuckles:

 

[Rich]

I'll say no. And might I add, we dodged a bullet this off-season by not making a major move. Think about trading away Thompson, Waiters, and draft picks for Andrew Bynum now. Good lord the future would look bleak as hell.

 

[mofire]

I'll say no. And might I add, we dodged a bullet this off-season by not making a major move. Think about trading away Thompson, Waiters, and draft picks for Andrew Bynum now. Good lord the future would look bleak as hell.

Ya I agree with you 100%. The only way I would take Bynum now in a trade is if we absorb his salary and us giving up a couple late firsts other then that I wouldn't trade our top assets for him with his knee issues that are unknown to likes of us fans and people outside of the Philly organization. I'm not saying he will be available I'm just stating that this is about all I would surrender for him.

 

["Boobie" Gibson]

You think if we add one more young player we will have enough talent for a championship? Thats crazy. We are like 10-20 moves + a bunch of luck + 4 years away from a championship.

10-20 moves? Where do you people come up with this stuff? There are only 12 spots per game. We have to re-haul the roster at least twice before we can be competitive?

 

[Stark]

Jeff Green
Al Horford
Josh Smith
Brook Lopez
Carlos Boozer
Wilson Chandler
Danny Granger
Roy Hibbert?
DeAndre Jordan
Eric Bledsoe
Pau Gasol
Amare Stoudemire
Toronto 1st rounder via OKC
Andrew Bynum
LaMarcus Aldridge
DeMarcus Cousins
Jason Thompson
Tyreke Evans
Paul Milsap
Al Jefferson

Of course it's all based on what the asking price is, and I don't have contract lists up in front of me, so I don't know everybody that is signed to a terrible contract, so I'll just list players I wouldn't mind seeing here, without regarding whatever their contract is.

- Al Horford
- Josh Smith
- Brook Lopez
- Andrew Bynum
- LaMarcus Aldridge
- DeMarcus Cousins
- Al Jefferson

 

[glockcoma]

Now, it's early, so there is plenty of time for teams off to a hot start to implode (think Portland last year), but here's a list of assets that are or might be available at the deadline (based on current sketchy play, bad contracts, full rosters, or just pure guesses). Not saying whether these are assets I'd want or not, but lets start the discussion.

Who of this list would you want? Anyone you'd add on there?

Jeff Green
Al Horford
Josh Smith
Brook Lopez
Carlos Boozer
Wilson Chandler
Danny Granger
Roy Hibbert?
DeAndre Jordan
Eric Bledsoe
Pau Gasol
Amare Stoudemire
Toronto 1st rounder via OKC
Andrew Bynum
LaMarcus Aldridge
DeMarcus Cousins
Jason Thompson
Tyreke Evans
Paul Milsap
Al Jefferson

A lot would depend on their contracts and not just ability. My pipedream would be one of either Horford, Lopez, or LMA and either Granger or Wilson Chandler. But I don't know how atrocious their contracts are off of the top of my head and I highly doubt any of them would be available for the pieces we have.

 

[Glenechocreek]

If Cousins becomes available, it will be because he is too much of a blockhead to be coached. Pass.

 

[Rich]

I thought Brook Lopez extended this summer? He's looked good, btw.

 

[Bill Walton.]

I could see us throwing my boy Luke in some trade.. Can't imagine getting much at the deadline. I don't see how the Cavs could every trade Andy. Seems like the kinda guy you'll never get proper value for. Especially with his popularity in the front office and with the fans. I think the Cavs would rather have Andy for the rest of his career then get a less than stellar move for him. I don't see the Cavs being major players this season. Maybe we could snag somebody off that Denver roster

 

[mult336]

If demarcus cousins ever becomes availiable, you better try to get him. In all honesty we need to move forward with what this has and look any opportunity to trade in our old video games.

 

[MirORich]

If it got to the point where the Kings wanted to move DeMarcus and the Cavs felt up to the challenge and risk, what would it take to get him?

Tyler, rescinding the owed Kings pick, and a 2015 pick(either the Cavs or the Heats)?

 

[pr26]

If there was ever a time where true value could be had for AV on the trade market, this may be the year. His stats are inflated and he looks better right now than I've ever seen him look.

Not saying we need to trade the guy or anything of the sort, but Grant may actually get a fair offer for the guy, and he's gotta listen.

 

[MirORich]

With OKC's staunch belief in always maintaining assets ad the way Presti has done stuff over the past 4-5 years, it's just hard to believe he would offer up a package of young players(Lamb, PJIII, Reggie Jackson) and the prime Toronto pick for just one player, albeit an impactful one in Andy, who is over 30 and has had injury problems.

More than likely, if they even entered in to conversation for Andy at all, they would as for the following:

Inclusion of Perkins and his contract to us
Inclusion of Boobie and his decent perimeter D + 3 point shooting to them
Inclusion of a future first round pick pick(s) from us. Not one as high as the Toronto pick, which could be potentially in the 4-7 range, but something more than the Heat pick.
Holding on to PJIII, as even though he is roadblocked, if he could show major talent and improved focus in spot minutes over the next 2-3 years, he could be a much more valuable and major trade chip(perhaps valuable 6th man) down the road

So, if a blockbuster went down, I see it being proposed by OKC as something like this:

Lamb, Perkins, Jackson, and the Toronto pick for Andy, Gibson, the Sacramento pick, and either the Orl or Cavs 2nd rounder.

Is that even the starting point for negotiation and haggling or do we just slam the phone down on them and say no way?

 

[Triumph36]

With OKC's staunch belief in always maintaining assets ad the way Presti has done stuff over the past 4-5 years, it's just hard to believe he would offer up a package of young players(Lamb, PJIII, Reggie Jackson) and the prime Toronto pick for just one player, albeit an impactful one in Andy, who is over 30 and has had injury problems.

More than likely, if they even entered in to conversation for Andy at all, they would as for the following:

Inclusion of Perkins and his contract to us
Inclusion of Boobie and his decent perimeter D + 3 point shooting to them
Inclusion of a future first round pick pick(s) from us. Not one as high as the Toronto pick, which could be potentially in the 4-7 range, but something more than the Heat pick.
Holding on to PJIII, as even though he is roadblocked, if he could show major talent and improved focus in spot minutes over the next 2-3 years, he could be a much more valuable and major trade chip(perhaps valuable 6th man) down the road

So, if a blockbuster went down, I see it being proposed by OKC as something like this:

Lamb, Perkins, Jackson, and the Toronto pick for Andy, Gibson, the Sacramento pick, and either the Orl or Cavs 2nd rounder.

Is that even the starting point for negotiation and haggling or do we just slam the phone down on them and say no way?

Grant (hopefully) takes it and runs. Fast.

A deal in which the Cavs get the Toronto pick is unlikely to be bad for them.

 

[Giambiwannabe7]

That is definitely true. But that's sorta the point of acquiring top 10 picks whenever possible. Even in weaker drafts, you'll still have your pick of the group excluding the small 'x' number of players picked before your spot.

Like with TT. Yes, the draft was weaker. But they could've picked anyone except Kanter and Williams. They could've picked K. Thompson, Faried, either Morris, Leonard, Biyombo, Jonas, etc. They chose Thompson over those guys, and each one that becomes better than TT is another missed opportunity and mistake by the team.

Oh I agree, and just said as much right before I saw this, in the TT thread. The only saving grace for the misevaluation of Faried is that so many other GM's are guilty of the same. But, yes, in a weak draft, for a team who needs to build through it like we do, it's paramount we get it right. It's almost equally as important to have a decent rate of hitting on the diamonds in the rough outside the lottery.